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List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread - Part II
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Yes but discount will be offset by his rising value as a player.
That was more because the Dogs were desperate to have a ‘win’.
Losing Griffin was shocking enough without losing him to GWS (who had already poached a future captain in Ward). They desperately needed a big name in return & Gubby twisted the knife a bit further in to let that appear to happen. They knew Boyd was going home ASAP & didn’t really rate his commitment as a footballer either.
Luckily for us, the Gubster is wearing a RWB polo this time.
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either way if Gold Coast don’t get a trade they’re happy with he’ll go somewhere else in Melbourne or go to the PSD and run the risk of being picked up by any other team.
Contracted or not is totally irrelevant. He’s not a free agent. He’s not going to be a free agent in 12 months. Nothing changes.
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Contracted is totally different to uncontracted. Either way players usually get to the club they want to. The difference is they can’t hold you if uncontracted. The psd is not being used for crap players let alone king.
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The Dogs could do with a couple of key forwards....
They will probably be into Tomlinson.
Or we can trade Bruce for their first and use that for Ben.
Easy as...
Doesn't change the fact that King will cost a lot while contracted. We can either do what the Dogs did and try and have a win or weigh up whether it's worth it.
King is also showing a hell of a lot more than Boyd was. There aren't too many 200cm key PP's that have come on as quickly as him.
Anyone expecting the Suns to just let him walk for a future first are dreaming unfortunately.
if he wants to leave because of homesickness, it’s hard to argue why any Melbourne team wouldn’t be the destination. Otherwise, what’s the difference between free agency or just requesting a trade and getting it granted?
It’s not as simple as you’re making it out to be.
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The price will be 2 x top 10 firsts IMO. Maybe a 2nd round back but given their 2nd is pick 19 it may even be a third back. Jake Lever trade is comparable. Whether he leaves this year or next the price will remain the same IMO.
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Steven to Geelong for pick 18.
5 to freo for B Hill and pick 8 - 12
S Hill FA
(If we wants to come) B Crouch and 2nd rounder for 18 and 8. (Throw in a third)
Future First to GC for King? Nope.
Realistically we can’t have B King, Hill and Crouch. Am open to ideas. If we give up players we can do it but there aren’t many I would give up. Maybe Dunstan to SA instead of Geelongs first but I like the way Dunstan goes around. Acres to freo? Would you give any of those 2 up. Here’s how it can happen IF we do it.
Steven to Geelong for pick 18.
18 and Acres to freo for Hill.
S Hill FA
(If we wants to come) B Crouch and their first for Dunstan and 5 (Throw in a third)
Adel First and our Future First to GC for King?
Thoughts?
5 to freo for B Hill and pick 8 - 12
S Hill FA
(If we wants to come) B Crouch and 2nd rounder for 18 and 8. (Throw in a third)
Future First to GC for King? Nope.
Realistically we can’t have B King, Hill and Crouch. Am open to ideas. If we give up players we can do it but there aren’t many I would give up. Maybe Dunstan to SA instead of Geelongs first but I like the way Dunstan goes around. Acres to freo? Would you give any of those 2 up. Here’s how it can happen IF we do it.
Steven to Geelong for pick 18.
18 and Acres to freo for Hill.
S Hill FA
(If we wants to come) B Crouch and their first for Dunstan and 5 (Throw in a third)
Adel First and our Future First to GC for King?
Thoughts?
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Well it has been lately. How many uncontracted players don’t end up at the club they want to go to. At least there is recent history of contracted players being forced to stay. Kelly and Steven last year
When these un-contracted stars are given a new contract to sign they then really think about what club they want to play for.
Seems like Goldstien was offered his and it might not of been to his liking so he is back talking to the Saints again.
Coniglio was favored to go to the Hawks , however now they are talking Carlton could be the club , but don't rule us out yet as well.
Seems like Goldstien was offered his and it might not of been to his liking so he is back talking to the Saints again.
Coniglio was favored to go to the Hawks , however now they are talking Carlton could be the club , but don't rule us out yet as well.
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Our moves this off-season all come down to where we see ourselves in terms of competing for top 4 and whether players have a spot in that projected team or not.
From Premiums a 'Cogs away from the premiership', Pluggers '8 players away from Ormond reserves' or Gringo's 'who cares because we'll stuff it up regardless' our list guys will have their view.
They obviously think DMac has a spot, they don't think Dunstan is likely to have one in the long term it seems, but when it comes to Bruce Carlisle etc. it's a case of whether they see us at the pointy end while they're the right side of 30
Regardless they will want to be able to be competitive-ish in the meantime to help sell hope. This year we've proven that the kids can get us by and the majority are likely to improve each year so I don't reckon we'll be as desperate to keep the 27 year-olds as this board thinks....
From Premiums a 'Cogs away from the premiership', Pluggers '8 players away from Ormond reserves' or Gringo's 'who cares because we'll stuff it up regardless' our list guys will have their view.
They obviously think DMac has a spot, they don't think Dunstan is likely to have one in the long term it seems, but when it comes to Bruce Carlisle etc. it's a case of whether they see us at the pointy end while they're the right side of 30
Regardless they will want to be able to be competitive-ish in the meantime to help sell hope. This year we've proven that the kids can get us by and the majority are likely to improve each year so I don't reckon we'll be as desperate to keep the 27 year-olds as this board thinks....
Makes sense. Was laughing at your 2nd pargrapf. So accurate.
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1 - immediately
2 - the boys seem to really get around bruce, I feel like we'd be trading him out at our peril for that reason mainly.. But if Max can have a real impact next year I think a bruce trade could gain some legs again.
Also I feel like bruce's main group is more the older(ish) players, and to be honest I don't know if we should be respecting them as much as the clark/king/coff/gresh/battle generation where we appear to have some real stars. The older group is more Billings (gun), sinclair, newnes, ross, membrey (gun), geary, spook etc...
Though it's hard to tell from my keyboard vantage point. If it doesn't fracture the group too much, I think a bruce trade should be at least considered, though he is playing very well and would be hard to replace
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There are plenty of mids that are in the range though. When we still have shit mids and Bing,then the next gun mid is drafted after our spent pick, I will whine loudly though. And when King is the new Kosi I expect to be able to blame you all for encouraging our dumb arse list managers.
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Connor Rozee looked bloody good on the weekend old mate
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