List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread - Part III

[Saint12]

Lonie is a pulse in the team, and if you've played footy and played with guys who really give it all and rev up others, then you know what it's about. When Lonie went down with injury earlier in the season, you could see the collective wind taken out of the sails of his team mates. He is an important cog in the team, and doesn't necessarily need to be a star.

Ive played with blokes like that plenty of times and if they can't produce on the field no amount of reving up/ranting and enthusiasm could stop me or others from eye rolling

 

[mighty_sainters]

Hindsight as we always say is a beautiful thing but would love to know the thought process behind going into this draft with a solitary first and a fourth round pick.

Obviously Hill wouldn’t have been on our radar until mid this year when his management would have shopped him around but I’m scratching my head how we got ourselves in this situation.

 

[StCicatriz]

Take no risks and get it done ploise.

For it to happen we will need a tom boyd like statement from Bing. Basically he's homesick and needs to come home.

Sadly I think Connors shut the door on that happening

 

[LeonardHayes87]

Gotta defend my boy Lonedog in here me thinks. He will never be a superstar small fwd but he was tracking really well late last year and prior to his knee this year

I think many of the posters were eating a bit of humble pie. Then he did his knee, didn't come back well and just couldn't get going again. A full preseason and I expect him to pick up from where he was pre injury.

And the "he can't tackle" argument - can someone pls post the gif of him bringing Hurley down like a lion bringing down a gazelle. Cheers

Listen to Gears post season review. Calls out Lonies injury as seriously deflating the team not just because of his on field ability but the energy he brings to the team. The guys a gun small forward gets little respect.

 

[thepoyz]

For it to happen we will need a tom boyd like statement from Bing. Basically he's homesick and needs to come home.

Sadly I think Connors shut the door on that happening

I miss my twinnnnnnnnnnn

 

[kernelT]

I know what your saying but that is far better than anything that our small forwards did.
I'm hoping Long or Parker can get more of the ball.

That's whole point premo, he's not far better… actually kicks far less goals than Lonie and is an awful kick - the exact thing we don't need.

Who gives a shit about a few more handballs.

 

[Moral Decay]

Okay, for anyone who struggles with grade 5 maths

Last 22 games for both players (excluding Lonies round 6 first quarter)

Lonie
Disposals
321
14.6

Kicks
216
10.3

Marks
90
4.1

Goals
29
1.3

Behinds
27
1.2

Shots at goal
63
2.8

Score involvements
130
5.9

Tackles
53
2.4

Tackles inside 50
27
1.3

Inside 50’s
53
2.4

Pressure Acts
341
15.5

Papley

Disposals
340
15.5

Kicks
241
11

Marks
106
4.8

Goals
37
1.7

Behinds
28
1.3

Shots at goal
76
3.5

Score involvements
141
6.4

Tackles
62
2.8

Tackles inside 50
18
0.8

Inside 50’s
66
3

Pressure Acts
286
13

Papley clearly ahead, but not by the amount you would think… he's also pretty average at forward pressure.

These stats probably need to compared with entries into forward line, how both perform under pressure, free kicks for and against. Lonie does make sure the slightest contact is maximised, heat maps and distances.

Stats can tell us a lot but they can also hide a lot, can't help but wonder how Dunstan compares with Dusty Martin, my guess is he'd be close but somehow he's a long wy from being Dusty.

 

[The_Steadier]

Why are you stroking the lizard?

Perhaps the only alternative was a trip to browntown?

 

[StCicatriz]

I miss my twinnnnnnnnnnn

We need more of that. Rather than radio silence. Impact on the family. Never actually wanting go there. Etc.

All of it. Then put it on steroids.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Listen to Gears post season review. Calls out Lonies injury as seriously deflating the team not just because of his on field ability but the energy he brings to the team. The guys a gun small forward gets little respect.

I think some forget what a very good season he was having until he got injured.

 

[thepoyz]

We need more of that. Rather than radio silence. Impact on the family. Never actually wanting go there. Etc.

All of it. Then put it on steroids.

"being a twin isn't something you can explain, he is literally my other half"
DO IT BEN!

 

[StCicatriz]

"being a twin isn't something you can explain, he is literally my other half"
DO IT BEN!

I can feel every hit he gets playing for gold coast and let me tell you, because they're so shit, there's a lot of them. It hurts.

Why are you torturing me Gill.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Sydney is great if you have heaps of cash and s**t if you don't. I don't know how anyone lives in the outer suburbs there.

I stayed out in a Caravan Park out at Emu Plains a few years ago. An hour to the city on one of these:

And it only stopped 4 times. Still takes an hour.

 

[Yawkey way]

Lethlean coming up on nine news soon.

 

[The_Steadier]

I’d say Steele and Spook lack the Tank and leg speed to be weapons on the outside as well. Steele does have some games where he is used as a link up player and provides a bit extra.

What I think we need is more Gresh in there. He can find a way to get out of congestion and get it forward. As good as Dunstan is at CP’s and tackles, he’s not a game changer in that way, and with Steven Gone we’re very short on those types.

Steele has a huge tank- regularly clocks up 90% time on ground onball all game.

He has limitations but endurance certainly isn't one of them

 

[Diehard Saint]

"being a twin isn't something you can explain, he is literally my other half"
DO IT BEN!

The yin to my yang, or in this case, the Ming to my Bing

 

[StCicatriz]

The yin to my yang, or in this case, my Ming to my Bing

"Free Ben King"

 

[Saint12]

Do you think we keep the lay buy going for another 12 months and collect cheap or do we pay up now?

Pay up NOW

 

[triggering bro]

Lethlean coming up on nine news soon.

What’s he done now?

 

[Greg1853]

Blicavs is. Is he the saviour of Geelong or just another GOP contributor?

2 * B&F so far

 

[BrutThough]

We need more of that. Rather than radio silence. Impact on the family. Never actually wanting go there. Etc.

All of it. Then put it on steroids.

Probably doesnt want to do it publicly because of the crap he would cop if the trade didn't end up happening.

 

[Premium]

Gun tall back, in the AA squad of 40.

he won there best and fairest last year which is pretty good for a guy that plays with Dangerfield , Selwood , Kelly and Duncan

 

[thepoyz]

he won there best and fairest last year which is pretty good for a guy that plays with Dangerfield , Selwood , Kelly and Duncan

he's a jet, just not on a wing.

 

[sunny3193]

Not one of Lonie's attempts at tackling have ever stuck. Let alone his attempts at kicking a goal. Please don't try and compare these two as footballers. Do you think any team might consider giving up a first round pick for Lonie?

That tackle on Hurley stuck pretty nicely.
Got a goal as a result IIRC.

 

[Yawkey way]

Lethlean didn’t say much, he was is SA ostensibly to talk about the Ryder deal.

He also spoke about Bruce, basically he wants a longer deal the bulldogs have tabled one if it doesn’t suit us he’s going nowhere. He sounded like if we thought we could cover his loss and the price was right then he’d be traded.