List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread II

[FootySmartSimpson]

If he hasn't been picked up yet, yes of course you could. However Swans would already have used their first pick by then so it won't cost them as much

Going by nothing but Youtube highlights, Campbell seems like the most aggressive runners out of the mids and I would be happy with Campbell+Phillips combo. That would make our young midfield have a lot of dimensions in two years time.

 

[Asifhe Givashe]

Brown and 9 for 6 and ‘21 First

Lonie is for the tip

That is the ideal Brown Trade.

Higgins + 24 > Saints > 2021 R1 (they will think they can win the flag)

 

[New_Roo]

If it increases the chances of use getting any combo of McDonald, Hollands, Phillips, Cox, Thilthorpe I am all for it.

Also, could we use 6 to bid on Campbell instead of two? or is that not how it works?...There is something about him that seems just super impressive.

If we see him as super impressive why wouldn't we bid at 2? Bidding at six won't cost syd as they will have already collected one top five player need to make sure they only get one not two


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[New_Roo]

44 (38/40,4/2 Cat A, 2 Cat B)

CLUBS are preparing for a small trim to playing list sizes for next season ahead of potential further cuts in the following years.

Negotiations are still ongoing between the AFL and AFL Players' Association, but it's looking increasingly likely there will be 42 players on lists in 2021, plus up to two Category B rookies.

That would be down from 44 this year, with three Category B rookies, a status designated to international and alternative talent prospects.

That appears pretty minimal? So 38 plus 2 plus 2?


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[Farthers]

44 (38/40,4/2 Cat A, 2 Cat B)

CLUBS are preparing for a small trim to playing list sizes for next season ahead of potential further cuts in the following years.

Negotiations are still ongoing between the AFL and AFL Players' Association, but it's looking increasingly likely there will be 42 players on lists in 2021, plus up to two Category B rookies.

That would be down from 44 this year, with three Category B rookies, a status designated to international and alternative talent prospects.

Based on current delistings how many players do we need to bring in? Obviously will change with potential trades as well.

 

[Shinboner1]

Lonie's been mentioned a few times but I'm unsure to his pace. Matthew Parker is one that doesn't look like he can squeeze in, not the best 2020 but I recall his debut season he showed a lot of mongrel. Limited but if he was a squad size squeeze out he looks like he works hard.

I rate Matty Parker a lot but I only worry him becoming a best 22 and pushing one of the young kids out into obscurity. Has a lot of upside.

 

[New_Roo]

Based on current delistings how many players do we need to bring in? Obviously will change with potential trades as well.

I calculate we are at 34 currently inc 1 rookie and one b.... so if I read it right we need 4 1 and 1? Obviously we may not take up all the rookie spots


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[The acurate one]

I think we should target Quinton narkle from cats.
He could blossom into a very good player imo.
Very much in our age bracket atm. Thoughts?

He’d be just another shitmen in a long line of shitmen we’ve recruited from other clubs .

 

[Passmore]

He’d be just another shitmen in a long line of shitmen we’ve recruited from other clubs .

How many good footballers to Geelong let go of?

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

If we see him as super impressive why wouldn't we bid at 2? Bidding at six won't cost syd as they will have already collected one top five player need to make sure they only get one not two


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My thoughts too. If we had six putting a bid at two becomes more palatable too, compared with if our next pick is nine.

 

[New_Roo]

How many good footballers to Geelong let go of?

Tim Kelly!


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[Star]

Tim Kelly!

Gary Ablett


Leigh Colbert

 

[Shinboner1]

44 (38/40,4/2 Cat A, 2 Cat B)

CLUBS are preparing for a small trim to playing list sizes for next season ahead of potential further cuts in the following years.

Negotiations are still ongoing between the AFL and AFL Players' Association, but it's looking increasingly likely there will be 42 players on lists in 2021, plus up to two Category B rookies.

That would be down from 44 this year, with three Category B rookies, a status designated to international and alternative talent prospects.

I wonder if North has shot themselves in the foot a little bit by delisting so many players before list size announcements. I know players had to know because our season was over etc but the club assumed list sizes would be significantly less and therefore clubs would need to delist more players and we'd have a larger talent pool of established players to choose from. With 11 currently delisted and probably 1-2 uncontracted possibly gone plus brown/higgins/polec etc list spots we'll most likely be pilfering some talent from the state leagues which I'm all for.

 

[Star]

I wonder if North has shot themselves in the foot a little bit by delisting so many players before list size announcements. I know players had to know because our season was over etc but the club assumed list sizes would be significantly less and therefore clubs would need to delist more players and we'd have a larger talent pool of established players to choose from. With 11 currently delisted and probably 1-2 uncontracted possibly gone plus brown/higgins/polec etc list spots we'll most likely be pilfering some talent from the state leagues which I'm all for.

How do you know that?

IF numbers are greater than first 'assumed' that just means one or all of Garner, Turner, EVW, Walker are safe

 

[DrZaius]

He’d be just another shitmen in a long line of shitmen we’ve recruited from other clubs .

This. People getting sucked into the classic trap of overrating depth players from 'successful' clubs.

 

[Harris 10]

He’d be just another shitmen in a long line of shitmen we’ve recruited from other clubs .

He’d be a Nathan Hrovat type recruit.

 

[New_Roo]

I wonder if North has shot themselves in the foot a little bit by delisting so many players before list size announcements. I know players had to know because our season was over etc but the club assumed list sizes would be significantly less and therefore clubs would need to delist more players and we'd have a larger talent pool of established players to choose from. With 11 currently delisted and probably 1-2 uncontracted possibly gone plus brown/higgins/polec etc list spots we'll most likely be pilfering some talent from the state leagues which I'm all for.

No don't reckon we have what 32 a rookie and cat b.... so what 6-7 new.... 5/6 if corr is coming.... will be at least 4 in the draft you would think... then still fas and trade


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[Kangaroo Cat]

If you cannot death ride * then I think you should have a good look in the mirror and pick another club...

I'd pissed if they tanked better than we did and got the draft pick we are after, aside from that I hope every game they play is terrible and their whiny supporters flood social media with their angst yet again . never seen a group of supporters hate their own team so much

 

[Psicosis]

I wonder if North has shot themselves in the foot a little bit by delisting so many players before list size announcements. I know players had to know because our season was over etc but the club assumed list sizes would be significantly less and therefore clubs would need to delist more players and we'd have a larger talent pool of established players to choose from. With 11 currently delisted and probably 1-2 uncontracted possibly gone plus brown/higgins/polec etc list spots we'll most likely be pilfering some talent from the state leagues which I'm all for.

I would assume that the football department had decided that regardless of list size, those 11 were not required moving forward.

 

[Clarke is King]

I would assume that the football department had decided that regardless of list size, those 11 were not required moving forward.

100%. Despite what some of the shit decisions that have been made over the years might suggest, this is a professional organisation, they wouldn't be getting rid of assets that hold any value if they didn't need to. It's safe to assume those 11 players are of no value.

 

[Shinboner1]

How do you know that?

IF numbers are greater than first 'assumed' that just means one or all of Garner, Turner, EVW, Walker are safe

A month ago it was speculated that list sizes may have to be dropped by at least 5. So 8 minimum would need to be delisted to cover the mandatory 3 taken from draft.

 

[The Warlord]

It depends.

Most AFL supporters just see the highest pick connected to a trade and go "LolZ Higgins for a first rounder?!?"

Higgins + #25 for any of their picks is a perfectly reasonable deal.

They pretty much amount to pick 30+ in points.

Is this like seeing an unsourced media report claiming we've shut down our VFL side and leaping to the conclusion that we've done so to protect the W side?

 

[Star]

A month ago it was speculated that list sizes may have to be dropped by at least 5. So 8 minimum would need to be delisted to cover the mandatory 3 taken from draft.

No club would delist players based on 'speculation'. Those 11 would have been cut regardless

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

How do you know that?

IF numbers are greater than first 'assumed' that just means one or all of Garner, Turner, EVW, Walker are safe

Yes this is how I would see it - basically those guys plus Hall/Tyson/Campbell are now broadly safe if list sizes aren't cut that much.

I still think we might move on 1-2 of these fringe players but alot to play out yet.

 

[remfan101]

He’d be just another shitmen in a long line of shitmen we’ve recruited from other clubs .

Nah, he’s Jed Anderson mk.2 imo