Prediction 2021 Draft Predictions

[Lore]

For those who aren’t quite in a position to do a full phantom draft, but who would still like to have a go at predicting the draft, please use this thread to post your predictions

The current draft order is available in the pinned thread, here:

Resource - 2021 AFL Draft Order

Every trade as it happens!

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In accordance with board rules, phantom drafts which do not fulfil the requirements of a full first round using the current draft order (at time of posting), and preferably with a bit of explanation and willingness to explain your decisions, may also be merged into this thread.

Following the Trade Period, the current order for the first round of the draft is:

1. North Melbourne
2. GWS Giants
3. Gold Coast Suns
4. Adelaide
5. Hawthorn
6. Fremantle
7. Richmond
8. Fremantle
9. St Kilda
10. West Coast Eagles
11. Essendon
12. Port Adelaide
13. GWS Giants
14. Brisbane Lions
15. Richmond
16. Sydney Swans
17. Melbourne
18. Brisbane Lions

 

[TDS7]

Same could be said of JHF who explicitly said he wants the mantle of being number 1 pick.

Or of any other top draft pick, who also wants to be recognised for their performances amongst their peers.

Personally I think it’s a bit pointless seeking validation through external recognition though. Getting drafted is just a gateway into the system.

It really all means nothing once the player is on a list.

I don't reckon JHF really wants that number one spot as desperately as the media sets it out. In the interview where he does say "I want to be the number one pick" he is prompted by the interviewers with a question similar to "I know Petracca, Walsh, and Rowell all wanted the prestige of number 1 really badly, do you?" and not "What's a big goal for you?". They've kind of forced this narrative on him, but hey it's not a bad narrative to have.

 

[Rusty Beam]

I don't reckon JHF really wants that number one spot as desperately as the media sets it out. In the interview where he does say "I want to be the number one pick" he is prompted by the interviewers with a question similar to "I know Petracca, Walsh, and Rowell all wanted the prestige of number 1 really badly, do you?" and not "What's a big goal for you?". They've kind of forced this narrative on him, but hey it's not a bad narrative to have.

"I've been counting down the days a little bit … I would love to go number one," Horne-Francis said.

I’m not saying it’s a bad narrative either.

It’s just hypocritical to have a go at one and not the other (or anyone else) for wanting the external recognition of their respective seasons.

I don’t think the recognition ultimately means anything long term though.

It’s also an illustration of the dichotomy of the supposedly public desire of wanting our sports people to be honest, and then the Australian tall poppy syndrome cutting them down when they are.

 

[TDS7]

"I've been counting down the days a little bit … I would love to go number one," Horne-Francis said.

Is that from the road to the Draft podcast with him on it, I'm pretty sure that's where I heard it first. It probably is something he'd really like to get, but it isn't going to be a personal vendetta if he goes at two. He won't though, he's locked himself in some extra cash and the title of outright first. I still think it's a bit of a forced narrative though.

 

[RUNVS]

"I've been counting down the days a little bit … I would love to go number one," Horne-Francis said.

I’m not saying it’s a bad narrative either.

It’s just hypocritical to have a go at one and not the other (or anyone else) for wanting the external recognition of their respective seasons.

I don’t think the recognition ultimately means anything long term though.

It’s also an illustration of the dichotomy of wanting our sports people to be honest and open, and then the Australian tall poppy syndrome cutting them down.

Different to Diacos who was whining that not every club thought he was worth interviewing.

 

[Rusty Beam]

Different to Diacos who was whining that not every club thought he was worth interviewing.

It’s no different IMO. It’s seeking external recognition to validate their ability/standing against peers/skills/performances etc.

Personally I don’t think it’s a useful exercise to undertake, either way.

 

[HumanMeatball]

So Richmond wants Amiss at 9 and they are trying to bait Freo into taking Johnson at 8 rather than 10?

No. I don’t believe Richmond even want amiss

 

[RUNVS]

It’s no different IMO. It’s seeking external recognition to validate their ability/standing against peers/skills/performances etc.

Personally I don’t think it’s a useful exercise to undertake, either way.

It s quite different. One player is expressing a desire to go number 1 and the other is complaining not every club interviewed him.

 

[Rusty Beam]

It s quite different. One player is expressing a desire to go number 1 and the other is complaining not every club interviewed him.

I suspect we aren’t going to agree. But to me it’s exactly the same underlying mentality (and not worthy of bagging someone out over).

Although from a personal point of view hopefully Fly can manage to bring the services of Ben Crowe to the Pies, and Nick develops a different approach (along with the rest of the team).

 

[GWS Goose]

My prediction is Andrew will be a big slider. Maybe out of the first round completely

If he is available at our second we will definitely take him.
Would not surprise me to see him slide.
Especially if the Sun's go a mid after the Greenwood thing.

 

[RowellAnderson12]

If he is available at our second we will definitely take him.
Would not surprise me to see him slide.
Especially if the Sun's go a mid after the Greenwood thing.

We won't go a midfielder, Hollands 189cm & Davies 191cm from last years draft played a combined 1 game last year. Hollands can easily take Greenwoods minutes, higher ceiling too. Bowes apparently back in the guts this year so think we are set. Tall Andrew or Gibcus thats it for us, hopefully Andrew

 

[anotherletdown]

When you average 35 touches and 2 goals I think you've earned it... "entitlement" what a joke lol.

You're right. GWS should drop everything to interview a player they have no ability to draft just to boost/protect that players ego.

 

[freo99]

You're right. GWS should drop everything to interview a player they have no ability to draft just to boost/protect that players ego.

Any chance when the trade was made last year that there was an agreement not to bid on Daicos

 

[GWS Goose]

I m.a reletive new comer to AFL , but in the decade I've been following I can't think of a more high profile recruit than Daicos. The combination of the famous name and super high quality is fairly rare.
It has been a weird situation, I didn't like the big announcement of the signing with jersey presentation pre-draft. We all know he is got there, but it didn't feel right.
Normally a player of Daicos' would be interviewed by someone with an early draft pick but it has been made so clear he is not available you can see why he hasn't.

 

[GWS Goose]

Any chance when the trade was made last year that there was an agreement not to bid on Daicos

I doubt that Collingwood would have thought we'd have a chance.
They were expecting finals.

 

[anotherletdown]

No. I don’t believe Richmond even want amiss

I've got a sneaky suspicion Amiss will slide....

 

[Big_Newon]

Hawks are apparently offering Freo a future first and pick 24 for pick 8 (10) and 19 (21). This is so they can get Ward, Johnson, Sonsie and a slider.

 

[bird_man]

I've got a sneaky suspicion Amiss will slide....

Freo will forever regret not taking him if that happens

 

[blueiris]

Freo will forever regret not taking him if that happens

Very much the way Richmond regrets not taking Franklin

 

[Smythe]

My prediction is Andrew will be a big slider. Maybe out of the first round completely

no chance

 

[Smythe]

Very much the way Richmond regrets not taking Franklin

Just as we regret taking vickery one spot before Ziebell, and taking ben lennon instead of patrick cripps one pick later, and ben griffiths instead of fyfe who went one pick later.
Imagine getting martin and fyfe in one draft!!

 

[HumanMeatball]

Very much the way Richmond regrets not taking Franklin

I don’t think so. He doesn’t have many superstar qualities IMO

 

[stormee]

Hawks are apparently offering Freo a future first and pick 24 for pick 8 (10) and 19 (21). This is so they can get Ward, Johnson, Sonsie and a slider.

What a putrid offer from the hawks, surely not

 

[tugga]

No. I don’t believe Richmond even want amiss

Yes there do. Super keen on him.

 

[danielG]

What a putrid offer from the hawks, surely not

You wouldn't do that deal for Freo ? I want no part of that trade from Hawks side. Only thing I'm parting with a future first for gets us Callaghan, if not keep it.

 

[Off Tap]

Hawks are apparently offering Freo a future first and pick 24 for pick 8 (10) and 19 (21). This is so they can get Ward, Johnson, Sonsie and a slider.

So they think Freo are fools and want to rob them blind?

That's what that offer is.