List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Draft, Trade, Free Agency and Academy

[Ge3ks]

Under no circumstances should our first rounder be touched in any deal

What about our first (currently pick 10) for their first (currently pick 16) and Clark?

 

[Joao]

So the club is pursuing Jordan Clark again. I used to want him but he is definitely behind our b22 wingers of Acres and Aish and doesn't have the ceiling of our potential wingers in Young, Freddy, Tucker, Western and Henry. So he would just be another list clogger/mouth to feed?

Western isn't going to be a winger I don't think.

Aish can find another role and/or the three of them can share the wings. But I am with Ysaye on this in that after 2.5 seasons on the list with his talent, the fact he doesn't get a game regularly (especially with their recent outs) is concerning.

I was originally a big fan but him not getting a regular guernsey at the Cats rings alarm bells a bit for mine - if we get him it has to be at the right price.

I have the same worry. Our 2nd would be my limit. Preferrably something closer to 35/40.

If we bring in Clark, we need to remove at least 2 of Giro, Crowden & Colyer.

I like Colyer & his role, but at his age I’d say Colyer & Giro as I think Clark can play either of those players role.

Clark isn't an inside mid or small forward so Crowden has nothing to do with him. Giro would be the one in danger.

What about our first (currently pick 10) for their first (currently pick 16) and Clark?

They traded their first to Richmond last year. If they still had it? No.

 

[go_the_dockers]

AFL.com.au reporting we are chasing Jordan Clark hard in a trade.
Pick 35-40 or thereabouts would get it done?

I hope not. We will get reamed if we trade for him.

His value is dropping quickly but he is contracted.

 

[Ge3ks]

They traded their first to Richmond last year. If they still had it? No.

I see. And I agree based on our need to hit the draft as early as possible. I'm just wondering what a deal for Clark might look like. I doubt the Cats are gonna cough him up cheap. Maybe Meek is the key, but I don't want to lose Meek either.

 

[tonygeeks]

We already suck at tackling and if we are playing Jordan Clarke we get even worse

He’s a good player when he has the ball but we already have so many players like that

Henry , Colyer , Sturt , Young , Freddie , Aish , Wilson , Western , Giro etc

Mundy , Fyfe and Walters have never been great tacklers

Lobb and Tabs are horrible even for talls

Guess we will be well set up when AFL goes non contact though


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[Joao]

We already suck at tackling and if we are playing Jordan Clarke we get even worse

He’s a good player when he has the ball but we already have so many players like that

Henry , Colyer , Sturt , Young , Freddie , Aish , Wilson , Western , Giro etc

Guess we will be well set up when AFL goes non contact though


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Finally we are ahead of the curve!

 

[Dockeroo]

I see. And I agree based on our need to hit the draft as early as possible. I'm just wondering what a deal for Clark might look like. I doubt the Cats are gonna cough him up cheap. Maybe Meek is the key, but I don't want to lose Meek either.

If he can’t get a game after 3 years, especially in the position he plays (not a KPF), why on earth should we pay up for him?

 

[Joao]

If he can’t get a game after 3 years, especially in the position he plays (not a KPF), why on earth should we pay up for him?

He has played 30 games (including 9 this year but a few as sub). So he is not a total spectator, just inconsistent obviously. The reason for that is what I'd like to know.

 

[DragoDelph]

He has played 30 games (including 9 this year but a few as sub). So he is not a total spectator, just inconsistent obviously. The reason for that is what I'd like to know.

So his impact is the same as Blakely? Straight swap it is.

 

[Ge3ks]

Well hopefully Clark is available cheap, but I do think as far as the Cats are concerned, he has currency. Obviously they are going full tilt for a Premiership this year and next, but surely he is key to their future beyond this window. The only way I see the Cats letting him go would be because Jordan wants to come home, and to their end, they need what in return... a ready made ruck? If Darcy is off limits, then do they target Meek?

Would Meek for Clark be about right?

 

[Taylor]

We might need to get Neale and Clark from them if we are including Meek in the trade.

We will want some backup

 

[rgauci]

Well hopefully Clark is available cheap, but I do think as far as the Cats are concerned, he has currency. Obviously they are going full tilt for a Premiership this year and next, but surely he is key to their future beyond this window. The only way I see the Cats letting him go would be because Jordan wants to come home, and to their end, they need what in return... a ready made ruck? If Darcy is off limits, then do they target Meek?

Would Meek for Clark be about right?

What if Geelong shifted 100k of Clark’s contract to 2022, and now wish they hadn’t? We might get him for bugger all but have to wear a disproportionate paycheck for 2022.

There are many computations that see us get a bargain, contracted or otherwise.

 

[Dockeroo]

If Geelong have Neale, wouldn’t they be keeping him instead of trading for Meek? Unless they don’t rate Neale at all?

 

[Scham]

Clarke would be good to have on the list. He’ll be an upgrade on plenty in our squad but importantly he’ll be an upgrade on current best 22 players Acres and maybe even Tucker imo. Improves our list quality overall as well as our best 22.
And importantly he’ll be hitting his peak when we should be contending.

 

[FreoRicci]

If we bring in Clark, we need to remove at least 2 of Giro, Crowden & Colyer.

I like Colyer & his role, but at his age I’d say Colyer & Giro as I think Clark can play either of those players role.

Giro and Crowden are gone. Sorry, just foot soldiers atm. Happily delist them for Clark. Stephen Hill, sadly, is probably retiring. Suddenly we would have no speedy wing.

Clark would be an underrated get tbh. We need speed and spread. Him and Fredrick would be freaks. Aish IMO, should be moved back to his half back role. It’s where his best footy is. Colyer isn’t going anywhere, come pets at half forward.

 

[FreoRicci]

If Geelong have Neale, wouldn’t they be keeping him instead of trading for Meek? Unless they don’t rate Neale at all?

Using your metaphor for Clark, no they don’t rate him given a Issac smith and Duncan are running around on the wing at their ages. Even Menegola is ahead.

 

[Tbonefreo]

I can't remember watching Clarke recently, but he did at the time remind me of Tommy sheridan

 

[Ysaye]

If Geelong have Neale, wouldn’t they be keeping him instead of trading for Meek? Unless they don’t rate Neale at all?

Meek is a much more known quality whereas Neale is completely unknown as to how he will work at the top level; that is why they may pay much more for Meek. Meek is also bigger.

 

[Square Peg]

I can't remember watching Clarke recently, but he did at the time remind me of Tommy sheridan

That's a good comparison actually. He has all the athletic tools but just looks like a bit of a flake. I guess often a 20 year old can have flakiness knocked out of them.

 

[Joao]

Clarke would be good to have on the list. He’ll be an upgrade on plenty in our squad but importantly he’ll be an upgrade on current best 22 players Acres and maybe even Tucker imo. Improves our list quality overall as well as our best 22.
And importantly he’ll be hitting his peak when we should be contending.

He's really not though, not based on this season's form.

 

[Taylor]

If Geelong have Neale, wouldn’t they be keeping him instead of trading for Meek? Unless they don’t rate Neale at all?

Can they afford to wait a few years for Neale to be able to play #1 ruck or would their entire elite peak of players have finished by then?

That's the value of Meek to Geelong. He can compete tomorrow. I suspect if there was a midseason trade period we would have already lost him.

 

[Docker82]

Wouldn’t have thought a contracted Clark is worth any more than a contracted Nathan Wilson was tbh.

We give a future second for Wilson and did a pointless late pick swap when Geelong asked for more. If Clark’s contract is worth getting off the books then I’d this is how this one gets done. Otherwise it just won’t get done at all.

 

[maccamk]

Blakely is the big bodied contested type of player Geelong would love. I could see him being a part of a Clarke trade maybe Clarke for Blakely and our future third.




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[malpaso]

If he can’t get a game after 3 years, especially in the position he plays (not a KPF), why on earth should we pay up for him?

Geelong really funnel the ball through certain players, hard for a player like Clark to accumulate with who they have in their team.

 

[wayToGo_]

Blakely is the big bodied contested type of player Geelong would love. I could see him being a part of a Clarke trade maybe Clarke for Blakely and our future third.