List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Draft, Trade, Free Agency and Academy

[blue shark]

Colyer, Acres, Lobb.

We love over paying for sh*t players.

Not even sh.t players, but injured, lazy, it started with Ross.
Talented, but M Harvey needs more recognition for doing a rebuild right.
After the two Harley’s you would think the bells would be ringing

 

[basashi]

I have the strong opinion that you don't bring anyone in who won't help you win a flag.

When you are down the bottom, you draft 6, 7,8 players if needed, and hope you can find some A graders amongst them.

I would rather looking a players like mature age players from 2nd tier comps, than target 27 or 28 year old players who will never be an A Grader.

We need to stop bringing in players who are not in a top 4 teams, best 22.

If a player is not best 22 in any club you shouldn't consider using a top ten pick to get them

 

[One_Wing]

This sounds dangerously similar to the situation at GWS and McCarthy.
They wanted 2 first rounders for him
In the end didn’t we the next year swap first rounders so they could get Taranto and us Logue?
You would think after Kersten, Matera, McCarthy and Hogan we would be wary of talented but flakey type players.
Freo. like the Saints are alway looking afar, and never what’s in their own backyard, doing the groundwork.

The picks we got from the Mcarthy trade also netted us Sean Darcy

 

[Hogwild]

The picks we got from the Mcarthy trade also netted us Sean Darcy

Reports Geel won't accept 25 for Clark - if true walk away.......they are being pathetic.

 

[Cobbler]

We have 8, 27 & 84 …..if it’s not 8 and it’s more than 27 ….what else are you giving up?

Im sure we’ll find a way to shuffle picks. They’re not set in stone nor are they all we’ll have.

 

[Cobbler]

I have the strong opinion that you don't bring anyone in who won't help you win a flag.

When you are down the bottom, you draft 6, 7,8 players if needed, and hope you can find some A graders amongst them.

I would rather looking a players like mature age players from 2nd tier comps, than target 27 or 28 year old players who will never be an A Grader.

We need to stop bringing in players who are not in a top 4 teams, best 22.

Did you think Ben Brown would help Melbourne win a flag?
Marlion Pickett?

 

[go_the_dockers]

Did you think Ben Brown would help Melbourne win a flag?
Marlion Pickett?

I believe you should target different players depending if you are rebuilding or chasing a flag.

Richmond and Melbourne were all in the premiership window, so it was a good call to top up. We are not.

This is why us trading in Lobb was a bad call, but if he went to Melbourne and they won a flag, it would have been a good call.

 

[Cobbler]

I believe you should target different players depending if you are rebuilding or chasing a flag.

Richmond and Melbourne were all in the premiership window, so it was a good call to top up. We are not.

This is why us trading in Lobb was a bad call, but if he went to Melbourne and they won a flag, it would have been a good call.

Do you think Jordan Clark has peaked at age 20?

 

[salim malik]

Do you think Jordan Clark has peaked at age 20?

Ffs Clark is a HBF that we don't need but we might turn him into a wingman.
25 years of this type of shit is what has turned us into shit.

 

[Purple Suit]

I believe you should target different players depending if you are rebuilding or chasing a flag.

Richmond and Melbourne were all in the premiership window, so it was a good call to top up. We are not.

This is why us trading in Lobb was a bad call, but if he went to Melbourne and they won a flag, it would have been a good call.

Without Lobb we would have had no backup ruck or Tall Forward for the past few years, both required due to injury. We would have lost an extra 2-3 games per year and potentially lost another youngster who was sick of it.

Have a look at Gold Coast if you want to see what all low draft picks and losing good mature players looks like. We are lucky players still want to return here so sometimes you need to get mature bodies to balance the rebuild.

 

[Scham]

I believe you should target different players depending if you are rebuilding or chasing a flag.

Richmond and Melbourne were all in the premiership window, so it was a good call to top up. We are not.

This is why us trading in Lobb was a bad call, but if he went to Melbourne and they won a flag, it would have been a good call.

Were you seriously thinking that Melb were in their premiership window this time last year?

Perhaps our club thinks we're about the open our premiership window?

 

[Wray27]

Ffs Clark is a HBF that we don't need but we might turn him into a wingman.
25 years of this type of sh*t is what has turned us into sh*t.

11 goals in his first year is pretty good for a hbf.

 

[Cobbler]

Nope I,m fine , thanks for asking.
Bringing back rejects is sh*t though.
Maybe you should go and have a look out our history of crap trades.

Our history of drafting isn’t exactly inspiring.

 

[s_wd6]

Our history of drafting isn’t exactly inspiring.

But our recent history is pretty decent

 

[Midnite65]

I believe you should target different players depending if you are rebuilding or chasing a flag.

Richmond and Melbourne were all in the premiership window, so it was a good call to top up. We are not.

This is why us trading in Lobb was a bad call, but if he went to Melbourne and they won a flag, it would have been a good call.

Melbourne werent in the premiership window the last two years. What turned them around was fitness, a lack of injuries through most of the season and a total attitude change and buy in from all their players.

 

[Docker82]

But our recent history is pretty decent

Is it though?

 

[s_wd6]

Is it though?

Logue, darcy, cox, Ryan
Brayshaw, switta
Sturt, schultz
Serong, young, Henry, freddy
Chapman, walker

Not amazing but not bad either hence pretty decent.

7/10 of our top 10 doig this year were drafted from 2016 onwards

 

[go_the_dockers]

Do you think Jordan Clark has peaked at age 20?

I don't like him as a player. I think he has average skills, and plays his best footy in the backline, which is our one area of strength.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Were you seriously thinking that Melb were in their premiership window this time last year?

Perhaps our club thinks we're about the open our premiership window?

Melbourne did.

Do you think we are?

 

[go_the_dockers]

Without Lobb we would have had no backup ruck or Tall Forward for the past few years, both required due to injury. We would have lost an extra 2-3 games per year and potentially lost another youngster who was sick of it.

Have a look at Gold Coast if you want to see what all low draft picks and losing good mature players looks like. We are lucky players still want to return here so sometimes you need to get mature bodies to balance the rebuild.

yes and no.

I can cope with bringing in a few mature agers if needed, but you don't give up first or second round picks to get them.

 

[Wray27]

Melbourne did.

Do you think we are?

We are definitely not in our Premiership window.

 

[JammoMonty]

Would he be more disappointing than Valente, Sturt, Henry, O’Driscol.

Please don’t make a case for any of them. They’ve shown less than Clark in same period of time. Before you say NOD has only been given a year, Clark was playing for Geelong in his first year.

It’s not like we’re throwing away our hand. We’ll still hit the draft. Clark has been identified as a need. He’s 20! Not 28.

He deserves the same upside opportunity the one eyed folks on here give guys like Valente, Sturt and co.

Hell, Logue is an absolute liability but some still make out like he could be the next Rance. He’s had how many years?

Agree. Logue is a wasted enough time with him.

 

[theGav56]

I have the strong opinion that you don't bring anyone in who won't help you win a flag.

When you are down the bottom, you draft 6, 7,8 players if needed, and hope you can find some A graders amongst them.

I would rather looking a players like mature age players from 2nd tier comps, than target 27 or 28 year old players who will never be an A Grader.

We need to stop bringing in players who are not in a top 4 teams, best 22.

Do you have an example of a club which hasn't brought players in and has in fact found A graders with the their 5th to 8th selections in a draft?

 

[eastfreo75]

Do you think Jordan Clark has peaked at age 20?

He played a lot of cricket as a junior, still a lot of upside.

 

[Freeeoo]

The Clark negotiation should be one of the easiest in years.
Here's pick 27, we'll leave it on the table.