List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
-

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

29

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

31

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

36

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

36

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

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25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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[KingsRansom]

When are the exit meetings held?

 

[Munga]

Apparently you guys are really into Ladhams from port

I searched youtube for him, all I found was his video gaming highlights

 

[stavro#4]

Gags is going for the Elite AFL List Boss badge... complete a three-way trade with Dodoro and Bell.

1 short of uniting the holy trinity. He couldn’t could he?

 

[Munga]

Agile and quick for a big unit. Good skills too, can rove his own taps and kick bananas.

 

[StCicatriz]

Ahhh Freo, where Success is just another suburb....

hahahahaha

 

[stavro#4]

Odd question?

Maybe he wants to come over?

 

[PoppedCorn]

So is battle staying and being tried down back, now we know that it was planned to occur but he got injuried?
Or does he want a trade?

 

[botts]

So is battle staying and being tried down back, now we know that it was planned to occur but he got injuried?
Or does he want a trade?

Where did you hear that was the plan

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

Look I like trades, it's done us well but I am worried that trading in any mids that aren't straight up A grade is just going to hinder us in the long run. Once you pay up big dollars for a player in the trade you're almost obligated to back them in. You don't get the luxury of benching them or delisting them or trading them on if they don't turn out. Brad Hill and Crouch are a good example. They've turned out well for us but there were periods of time that they were out of form and we just had to play them cause that's who we've invested in. I'd love to essentially only draft youth into the midfield this year and be forced to develop and play them, maybe one of the three steps up in their first year the way none of ours have in a few years. But if we bring in a shiny new B grade midfielder we'll be caught up in seeing them play and now our draftees are behind the new guy, Bytel, Byrnes, Hanners, Clark. At least with draftees there's no shame or harm in dropping them if they're not working out.

the players the club has traded in the last two off seasons have all been great, the exception being Brad Hill who has been inconsistent and Dan butler in the second year. Ryder, Jones, Howard, Higgins and crouch have all been exceptional recruits, easily best 22 material.
Finding Wilkie, Sharman and Highmore the way have as well - someone deserves a lot of credit for these selections. Good players - seem like good people as well.

the problem I see atm with the whole list management process is that the guys we’ve gotten early in the draft haven’t come on after showing great promise early.

Jack Billings - Probably twice in his career has had genuine elite purple patches of form but it hasn’t been sustained. He hasn’t gone to the next level.

Lonie - first season was phenomenal,

Gresham -I thought Gresh was going to be an absolute star after a season and a half at the saints, but just didn’t get to the level I thought he would and now lately dogged by injury. Was still a good player though.

Hunter Clarke - again, nice player but hasn’t reached levelsI’d hoped this season after I was very impressed with him early.

Coffield - very good last year, not sure about him now.

Maybe Rowan Marshall also but he’s not trekking too far under my expectations.

maybe I just get too optimistic

I’m hoping Ben king bucks this trend and Sharman looks the goods.

The saints have a good list and Steele is a genuine star but need one of these younger guys to go on and become a Petracca Bontempelli type impact player to get to the next level.

 

[Premium]

in what world is Jordan Clark worth a top 10 pick.

No he is not but will most probably use it in a swap in picks

 

[Munga]

I reckon Dunstall is usually very complimentary towards the Saints. He's just about the best special comments man going around in my book.

Yeah Dunstall's a gem. It doesn't bother me even when he isn't complimentary, because he's usually correct. Maybe he didn't want to coach, but he'd be an awesome manager.

 

[Heavensent]

we need a proper full back as well.

Agreed, especially if Doogs goes down with injury then we are really screwed

 

[Dr Spaceman]

So is battle staying and being tried down back, now we know that it was planned to occur but he got injuried?
Or does he want a trade?

 

[Heavensent]

Th

We need:

195cm+ Back.

Fast mid with good disposal.

Ruck depth.

this, precisely

 

[BigMonty]

Think Collingwood will be interesting this trade period, as they need a fairly large pick upgrades to get Daicos.

Would a DeGoey type be back on the table for our first rounder?

GCS have pick 3 is that worth upgrading our pick 9 with a player..Battle perhaps?

GCS also have picks 19 and 22?? can we swap something for that like Battle again?

If Battle cannot be developed as a CHB he is probably behind Sharman sadly. Unless opp teams put work into Sharman and he struggles next year.

I would like to keep Battle but if the right deal comes knocking you have to give to get.

Also Battle seems like the sort of guy that does not want to be second fiddle to anyone and may as a result ask to leave for better opportunities.

GCS is one place as is Collingwood.

No inside knowledge just throwing it out there

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[Ephemeral Hope]

the players the club has traded in the last two off seasons have all been great, the exception being Brad Hill who has been inconsistent and Dan butler in the second year. Ryder, Jones, Howard, Higgins and crouch have all been exceptional recruits, easily best 22 material.
Finding Wilkie, Sharman and Highmore the way have as well - someone deserves a lot of credit for these selections. Good players - seem like good people as well.

the problem I see atm with the whole list management process is that the guys we’ve gotten early in the draft haven’t come on after showing great promise early.

Jack Billings - Probably twice in his career has had genuine elite purple patches of form but it hasn’t been sustained. He hasn’t gone to the next level.

Lonie - first season was phenomenal,

Gresham -I thought Gresh was going to be an absolute star after a season and a half at the saints, but just didn’t get to the level I thought he would and now lately dogged by injury. Was still a good player though.

Hunter Clarke - again, nice player but hasn’t reached levelsI’d hoped this season after I was very impressed with him early.

Coffield - very good last year, not sure about him now.

Maybe Rowan Marshall also but he’s not trekking too far under my expectations.

maybe I just get too optimistic

I’m hoping Ben king bucks this trend and Sharman looks the goods.

The saints have a good list and Steele is a genuine star but need one of these younger guys to go on and become a Petracca Bontempelli type impact player to get to the next level.

With the main strength of the draft being dynamic midfielders and us having two good prospects that we’ll get free hits at you’d think this is the make or break draft where the list managers prove themselves. Timed perfectly with us choking the season a bit this is where we need to do the drafting that sets us up for the next 5 years

 

[stfan]

When are the exit meetings held?

I think the Flamingo is the first one booked in.

 

[Jade Buddha]

I'm back on to wanting to hold Coff again. He's back on a really solid trajectory. We probably at some point have to call him or Highmore but you'd probably want a bigger sample size to make sure that you kept the best of them. Coffield has a higher ceiling but behind at the moment.

Our backline is our strength atm. We’ve still got to consider putting Paton, Highmore and possibly Clark from our last line up back in.
in fact I’m not sure we need another KPD if we persist with out intercept rebound game. Seems like it’s what’s working for us while our midfield is getting smash from centre clearances

 

[botts]

I'm back on to wanting to hold Coff again. He's back on a really solid trajectory. We probably at some point have to call him or Highmore but you'd probably want a bigger sample size to make sure that you kept the best of them. Coffield has a higher ceiling but behind at the moment.

No way. I reckon Coff and highmore will work awesome in a tandem. Intercepting everything.

 

[AFLOnline]

Can someone explain why tf we didn’t get Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

294.5

4star

D

21.0

5star

K

15.0

5star

HB

6.0

3star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

146.8

3star

when he was on the outer and was interested in coming to the Saints?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Sam Edmund
@Sammy__Edmund
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3m
Adam Cerra's only path out of Fremantle is to Carlton. No other club who raised an initial interest has the draft and money to cut a deal. Cerra today told Freo he wants out. Blues have indicated a desire to give up at least 1st round pick, but have yet to speak to Cerra directly

A few clubs would have the ability to get him , but really is he worth getting for the price Bell wants.

How many players must the Bluescum have over 700k a year?

Cripps 800k
Williams 800k
Saad 700k
McKay 800k
Walsh 700k
McGovern 800k
Martin 700k
and now Cerra ......?

Then there is Charlie Curnow, Weitering

Its a Brown Paper Bag frenzy

 

[Grav]

Ex GWS Academy & Canberra Demons player up until they folded at the end of 2020 Alex Paech.
Have no idea what he did in 2021, but because of covid & like a lot of other players, I dare say not a lot.
Thoughts of a rookie spot?

Built like the proverbial brick $hit house (24yo?) 197cm & 109kg if he comes on, could be that solid KPD needed.

STRENGTHS: Kicking, versatility, leadership
IMPROVEMENTS: Agility, endurance

Watching his 2016 highlights, his agility wasn’t to bad.

 

[botts]

How many players must the Bluescum have over 700k a year?

Cripps 800k
Williams 800k
Saad 700k
McKay 800k
Walsh 700k
McGovern 800k
Martin 700k
and now Cerra ......?

Then there is Charlie Curnow, Weitering

Its a Brown Paper Bag frenzy

Would love to actually see a full breakdown of there salary cap. I reckon there has to be something fishy going on.

 

[Jade Buddha]

We need:

195cm+ Back.

Fast mid with good disposal.

Ruck depth.

Do we actually need a key back? Even when they are available we tend to choose intercept marks. Team defence approach.

 

[George]

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Part 2 is here;

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

Continued in Part III https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-trade-thread-part-iii.1288661/ Delisted; Oscar Clavarino Sam Alabakis Traded; - Retired; Jake Carlisle Dylan Roberton Shaun McKernan James Frawley Current Players Out of Contract; 7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link 13. Jack Lonie...

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