List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

36

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

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13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Drop Kick]

Coached gippy power to a grand final, box Hill to a flag, head of AFL at hawks and assistant coach after Bolton left, then head of collingwoods academy last year

He definitely sounds like a good pick up for the Saints.

 

[gringo2011]

Coached gippy power to a grand final, box Hill to a flag, head of AFL at hawks and assistant coach after Bolton left, then head of collingwoods academy last year

Sounds like Bevo.....lets sack Ratts.

 

[sammm]

Dennis Carrol was the Swan, Damian played for Melbourne U19's, St Kilda Reserves and the Springvale Football Club.

So, he was a Saint?

 

[Drop Kick]

So, he was a Saint?

That's what my research told me.

 

[oldevo]

We really need a Back-Ruck and not a Ruck-FWD, has that every successfully worked?

Marshall 60% ruck, 40% FWD/rest
Player X 40% ruck, 60% Back/rest

God knows who that player is.
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Doesn’t Mayo play ruck/chf ? Would come cheap.

 

[Darrian Barnett]

Thoughts on Ryan Garthwaite at the Tigers? 192cm, key defender, only 23 and has yet to sign a new contract.


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He is the worst kick of the footy I have seen in my entire life. He drops the ball with both hands like an Auskick kid

 

[Strahany]

The GOAT played some Ruck before being picked up by the club, so he could be the answer after putting on some size. I don’t believe a genuine second ruck is absolutely necessary when Marshall has such a good tank.

 

[bergholt]

The GOAT played some Ruck before being picked up by the club, so he could be the answer after putting on some size. I don’t believe a genuine second ruck is absolutely necessary when Marshall has such a good tank.

Yeah but the club seems to think Marshall is the second ruck so they're looking for someone to play first ruck

 

[Grav]

The most pleasing part of trade period is nothing coming out of the club, as like 2019 & 2020.
That’s when the recruiting team went bang, with Ryder, Howard, Butler, Jones, Hill (2019)Crouch & Higgins the main two in 2020.
Can see more surprising trades happening in our favour again this trade, can’t wait till it starts.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Cox makes a lot of sense I think. 12 month prospect. Can play half a dozen or so games when Ryder is out and can play forward or ruck. He’s a good back up for both of our options.

Get to the end of next year and see where things are at with Ryder/Bing and go for a more long term solution then.

 

[LennyHayes77]

I think this off-season is going to be a critical one for the success of this club moving forward.
We've seen time and time again clubs thinking they are closer to a flag than what they really are and try to get 1 or 2 more pieces, and pay a premium for them, only for it to backfire and set them back several years. I'd be happy to keep all our picks and maybe pick up a couple of cheap free agents and leave it at that.
We really need to see how much our current players can develop and gel as a team before another season of several new inclusions.
But in saying that we have to trust what the club does and pray they know what they're doing!

Also I was going to suggest Tim Membrey

28

Tim Membrey

Age

30

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

to play a CHB role, he's good overhead, strong, has a huge tank and has dropped back there with success several times last season. However he is only 190cm so could be too short, although that hasn't really been a problem for him playing as a key forward.

 

[AirWinmar]

Cox makes a lot of sense I think. 12 month prospect. Can play half a dozen or so games when Ryder is out and can play forward or ruck. He’s a good back up for both of our options.

Get to the end of next year and see where things are at with Ryder/Bing and go for a more long term solution then.

Being that Chol is taken, agree. think he would be better backup than PHunter, wouldn't cost anything pick wise assuming Pies delist.

 

[AirWinmar]

Yeah but the club seems to think Marshall is the second ruck so they're looking for someone to play first ruck

Personally think were best off having a backup like Cox for now and let's see how Heath develops next year. We don't have much draft picks to use in trade - think we will need all for our nga's and should definitely use pick 9 on best available mid.

Next year if we get Bing then no need for another ruck or Heath may be showing great signs so it wouldn't be needed. If they both don't happen you can trade in best available then.

We still have Ryder for this year, although likely to miss a few games.

 

[puppy_dog7]

Imagine sending Roo to CHB after he just kicked 60+ goals for the year in 2004. Yeah he could probably do it but it would make zero sense.

This idea of ladhams sounds good , but what happens if we do trade in Ben King? Teams can’t carry heaps of talls. Midfielders on the other hand you can put them anywhere… just look at the dogs.

Just like how we can put Dunstan anywhere.

 

[bird_man]

Just like how we can put Dunstan anywhere.

Most mids are more versatile than Dunstan. That was one of his main weakness' Unfortunately.

Usually young mids will do an apprenticeship at half forward, or back or the wing.

 

[Saint_Dos]

We really need a Back-Ruck and not a Ruck-FWD, has that every successfully worked?

Marshall 60% ruck, 40% FWD/rest
Player X 40% ruck, 60% Back/rest

God knows who that player is.
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Not many teams play a Back/Ruck.
Not really sure why but assume it is because it allows teams to choose when their ruck rotates rather than being caught out a tall short when they go into the ruck.

 

[bird_man]

Not many teams play a Back/Ruck.
Not really sure why but assume it is because it allows teams to choose when their ruck rotates rather than being caught out a tall short when they go into the ruck.

It also doesn't give the ruck any chance of resting and I don't think constantly moving a tall in and out of the backline would be great for cohesion.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Most mids are more versatile than Dunstan. That was one of his main weakness' Unfortunately.

Usually young mids will do an apprenticeship at half forward, or back or the wing.

Mainly start on the HBF. Old days you started in the forward pocket

 

[Bill Mohr]

It also doesn't give the ruck any chance of resting and I don't think constantly moving a tall in and out of the backline would be great for cohesion.

Probably from days of yore. Dempsey , Bill Ryan and co used to always drop back and take mark after mark. I suppose this was the method when you did not have a tall backman, these guys filled the void and I think they rucked mainly on their own with support from a bigger forward

 

[AirWinmar]

Yeah can't see a ruck resting on the half back line working too well. But a ruckman who rucks and drops back as a defensive interceptor can make it very tricky for a forward line.

 

[PandaG]

Good at teaching them what ...specifically ?

Whatever he needs to
If you are a good teacher content doesn’t matter

 

[PandaG]

Do you know him personally?
Seems like a very good resume and I like that he’s also been a teacher.

Yep taught me in year 11&12
Taught Rob Murphy as well who speaks highly of him. Just very calm, and relates well to young people. Obviously done a lot in the footy industry but he is a very good at making the complicated seem simple. Perfect to have around our young stars based on my time with him.

 

[King_Steele]

I heard Damo makes the easy seem complicated triggering bro

 

[PandaG]

I would say if we want Bing next year then GC will want a player like Marshall plus a first rounder, at least.

Would the club do it, that will be very interesting, will Gags roll over like Wells did for Jeremy.

Because Bing is out of contract they can demand that

 

[bird_man]

I would say if we want Bing next year then GC will want a player like Marshall plus a first rounder, at least.

Would the club do it, that will be very interesting, will Gags roll over like Wells did for Jeremy.

Clubs always ask for players in return but it usually just ends up being picks or sometimes a fringe player.

The only way that would happen is if Marshall did a Tom Boyd and told the club he wanted to go to Gold Coast.

I'd imagine if we wanted to go the deal would be based around 2 first round picks.