List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

[George]

Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

36

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

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Wednesday November 3 - Tuesday November 9

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Wednesday November 10

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Monday 6 December

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December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday 19 December - Sunday 9 January

 

[stavro#4]

The issue isn’t what was said. It’s how it came about.

this type of shit happens with every club in the league…. It’s just that 99% of the time. It occurs away from the media.

we have pissed the Suns off with that tweet and few other things in the past few years. Hence we now pour cold water all over it in the media (see gags a few weeks back).

but it isn’t a secret when you speak to those who are probably that inner circle of stkilda fans that have that media persona and are abit fancier then the average fan - they all believe King is coming and they get that confidence from the club.

unfortunately the AFL is still very much a nanny league around player movement. Hence the issue.

 

[Yawkey way]

Yeah spot on, I have only seen one poster consistently bring it up, everyone else seemingly couldn't give a sh*t about it lol. Like you said, he nominates or he doesn't. Who cares. It's being overblown to levels that would make you think it's comparable to a doping scandal or something hahaha

I might add this is the mob who chased Nick Riewoldt about as hard as any player has ever been pursued and had no problem at all making their intentions clear to the press.

 

[Ricochet]

Nathan Freeman

Nathan Freeman

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

anyone?

 

[stavro#4]

George whats the problem?

 

[George]

George whats the problem?

Who said I have a problem haha

 

[Ailurus]

i heard him say "the club thinks they can get ben king" literally within the last two weeks. Caro said it on footy classified. i'm not going to go off and start watching every episode of footy classified to find it.

There is a big difference between him saying that and the club saying it. We might think that but we haven't said it.

 

[stavro#4]

Who said I have a problem haha

You use the laughing emoji on my posts often enough.
Please enlighten me, about what is so funny?

 

[StCicatriz]

There is a big difference between him saying that and the club saying it. We might think that but we haven't said it.

how do you know we haven't? are you saying Lloyd and Caro have lied?

 

[AaronSCHQ]

The issue isn’t what was said. It’s how it came about.

this type of sh*t happens with every club in the league…. It’s just that 99% of the time. It occurs away from the media.

we have pissed the Suns off with that tweet and few other things in the past few years. Hence we now pour cold water all over it in the media (see gags a few weeks back).

but it isn’t a secret when you speak to those who are probably that inner circle of stkilda fans that have that media persona and are abit fancier then the average fan - they all believe King is coming and they get that confidence from the club.

unfortunately the AFL is still very much a nanny league around player movement. Hence the issue.

I couldn't believe it when my mate text me and a mate in a group message when watching NRL prelim. I don't follow, just had it on, and they were discussing how one of the players was already signed at another club for the following year. Crazy compared to what we are used to here. But at least it's all open and transparent. Different system of course with no draft and the like (from memory).

 

[StCicatriz]

The issue isn’t what was said. It’s how it came about.

this type of sh*t happens with every club in the league…. It’s just that 99% of the time. It occurs away from the media.

we have pissed the Suns off with that tweet and few other things in the past few years. Hence we now pour cold water all over it in the media (see gags a few weeks back).

but it isn’t a secret when you speak to those who are probably that inner circle of stkilda fans that have that media persona and are abit fancier then the average fan - they all believe King is coming and they get that confidence from the club.

unfortunately the AFL is still very much a nanny league around player movement. Hence the issue.

100% this

in baseball no one would give a shit. AFL world though, clubs and management are precious.

i think for mine the difference in approach in Ben King vs Brad Hill is very different. no one knew about Brad Hill until we had convinced Brad to come to the club, but those discussions would have been kicking off very early on.

 

[Sun Ra]

Nathan Freeman anyone?

I wouldn't mind rookie listing him.

 

[George]

You use the laughing emoji on my posts often enough.
Please enlighten me, about what is so funny?

Because you just make up stuff and expect people to believe you, then when they don't you get defensive lol. I laugh at your posts because they are funny, why else would I?

I've seen nothing from the club at any point saying they "expect to get Ben King". And who cares about pissing off player managers. If the player wants to go to a club, he will go there. Talk about a made up, overblown story. Why are you buying into the clickbait nonsense? Just laugh at it like the rest of us, it's a nothing issue.

 

[stavro#4]

I couldn't believe it when my mate text me and a mate in a group message when watching NRL prelim. I don't follow, just had it on, and they were discussing how one of the players was already signed at another club for the following year. Crazy compared to what we are used to here. But at least it's all open and transparent. Different system of course with no draft and the like (from memory).

A few years back there was that out roar that Lin Jong was touring the pies facility mid season.

he ended up staying at the dogs. Butat the time the pies came out and said that’s common practice.

the league is just behind on the times. We have free agency and we pretend the conversations only happen when the season ends. Not that coaches players and presidents have already spoken to a potential player

 

[Ailurus]

how do you know we haven't? are you saying Lloyd and Caro have lied?

If St Kilda has publicly said something we'd all know. I'm not saying they lied, they believe that we think we can sign King. I think we can sign him but the Saints haven't spoken to me about it.

 

[StCicatriz]

I couldn't believe it when my mate text me and a mate in a group message when watching NRL prelim. I don't follow, just had it on, and they were discussing how one of the players was already signed at another club for the following year. Crazy compared to what we are used to here. But at least it's all open and transparent. Different system of course with no draft and the like (from memory).

i honestly think introducing a mid-season trade period would resolve alot of these issues.

i also think introducing a player move bonus (to cover costs + make it appealing for players) and allowing clubs to transfer players without their consent would also solve a lot of issues.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

i honestly think introducing a mid-season trade period would resolve alot of these issues.

i also think introducing a player move bonus (to cover costs + make it appealing for players) and allowing clubs to transfer players without their consent would also solve a lot of issues.

I think a lot of "these issues" are not real issues.

 

[Parkysp]

Nailed it admin.
Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

don't go dissing the admin girl

 

[St Significant]

You use the laughing emoji on my posts often enough.
Please enlighten me, about what is so funny?

 

[AaronSCHQ]

i honestly think introducing a mid-season trade period would resolve alot of these issues.

i also think introducing a player move bonus (to cover costs + make it appealing for players) and allowing clubs to transfer players without their consent would also solve a lot of issues.

I'm all for the mid-season trade period.

 

[George]

I think a lot of "these issues" are not real issues.

It's only an issue when the media have to fill time with what ultimately is a boring and overhyped trade period. One thing I've noticed over the last few years is how far behind our football media industry is compared to other sports across the world. It really is amateur hour most of the time.

 

[Ricochet]

All this Bing talk is is a bout 12 month to early

 

[StCicatriz]

I'm all for the mid-season trade period.

i think its the only way bottom 4 clubs will have serious leverage over clubs that are at the top of the ladder. you can see clubs like geelong getting desperate.

 

[Sully111]

The issue isn’t what was said. It’s how it came about.

this type of sh*t happens with every club in the league…. It’s just that 99% of the time. It occurs away from the media.

we have pissed the Suns off with that tweet and few other things in the past few years. Hence we now pour cold water all over it in the media (see gags a few weeks back).

but it isn’t a secret when you speak to those who are probably that inner circle of stkilda fans that have that media persona and are abit fancier then the average fan - they all believe King is coming and they get that confidence from the club.

unfortunately the AFL is still very much a nanny league around player movement. Hence the issue.

The thing is though... it doesn't matter. It's just piss and wind.

 

[Ricochet]

I wouldn't mind rookie listing him.

Potential gem worth the risk

 

[bird_man]

If we are going to trade a player out, it would make a lot of sense trade them for a future pick.

Reason being, if we get past the first night without our NGA players going, we then have value to offer to each club for every pick that comes up without their name being called.

Any pick this year outside the first round has the potential to be gobbled up in points for those academy kids.

It would also mean that if both kids do go early (20-35) we can then trade back into this year's draft afterwards and get another kid this year afterwards.

I just can't see how we get inside the top 20 again this year without splitting picks, so this makes sense to me.