List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[safeandsound]

We should look to get young Private Player. Best in both teams!

We have enough of that type already .

 

[FNeighbourhoodSpiderman]

I think we’ve got enough to develop there and I think he will slide slightly with 4 hamstrings in a single year.

He fits well at West Coast imo.

I think we will take Sheezel or Tsitas. Both offer a good POD to what we have.

Yes I could see you drafting Sheezel too.
I agree Sheezel would give you something you don't have if start him forward, and mainly play him there.
He's been playing mid too though in juniors (in addition to fwd) - so I could see him wanting some time in there in the future. Might not be too hard to rotate him and JHF between mid and fwd seeing as both are goal kickers and match winners when playing forward of centre.

Tsatsas - I could see him playing in the middle, off half back, or even some wing in the AFL with his speed, athleticism and ability to rack up metres gained, and obviously now that he's shown he can play inside or outside
Problem with going Tsatsas for you guys ... again, it's going to be a squeeze finding time for him in the midfield. You've also already got Hall, Mcdonald, and now even Goater to play that half back setup role.
You could draft him and play him on a wing, but if you take him, you're still very light in the forward line and/or KP stocks

North desperately need KP players, and forwards.
Unless Clarko makes North Melbourne a victorian destination club, or can recruit guys in free agency and trade (which is a decent possibility - a guy like Gunston might be a real possibility for you), you guys really should be trying to stock up on them now.

 

[Sphynx]

Yes I could see you drafting Sheezel too.
I agree Sheezel would give you something you don't have if start him forward, and mainly play him there.
He's been playing mid too though in juniors (in addition to fwd) - so I could see him wanting some time in there in the future. Might not be too hard to rotate him and JHF between mid and fwd seeing as both are goal kickers and match winners when playing forward of centre.

Tsatsas - I could see him playing in the middle, off half back, or even some wing in the AFL with his speed, athleticism and ability to rack up metres gained, and obviously now that he's shown he can play inside or outside
Problem with going Tsatsas for you guys ... again, it's going to be a squeeze finding time for him in the midfield. You've also already got Hall, Mcdonald, and now even Goater to play that half back setup role.
You could draft him and play him on a wing, but if you take him, you're still very light in the forward line and/or KP stocks

North desperately need KP players, and forwards.
Unless Clarko makes North Melbourne a victorian destination club, or can recruit guys in free agency and trade (which is a decent possibility - a guy like Gunston might be a real possibility for you), you guys really should be trying to stock up on them now.

I've no doubt if there was an obvious tall option to take in the region, they likely would.

Cadman is probably the only realistic option and I can't see him being taken effectively at pick #1.

A lot depends on where the PP is awarded also. If it's a mid round 1, then that changes things in that regard also.

 

[Thetrader15]

I've no doubt if there was an obvious tall option to take in the region, they likely would.

Cadman is probably the only realistic option and I can't see him being taken effectively at pick #1.

A lot depends on where the PP is awarded also. If it's a mid round 1, then that changes things in that regard also.

I like that you're assuming a PP will be awarded. It probably comes just after WC's PP.

 

[Sphynx]

I like that you're assuming a PP will be awarded. It probably comes just after WC's PP.

It's been pretty much confirmed by most Melbourne journo's in the last 10 days a PP is going to be awarded to us in GF week, it's just where and what it is.

We applied for the full 6,000 points fwiw.

 

[Thetrader15]

It's been pretty much confirmed by most Melbourne journo's in the last 10 days a PP is going to be awarded to us in GF week, it's just where and what it is.

We applied for the full 6,000 points fwiw.

The old "hide the unpopular announcement during grand final week". If true, I suspect this will be done at 4.55pm on the Friday night, or at 3/4 time of the GF.

Seriously, you generally get what you deserve in this competition, the draft is already compromised enough with academy and FS picks, affecting clubs down the bottom.

The last 3 drafts:

2021 - Pick 2 (Darcy), pick 4 (Daicos)
2020 - Pick 1 (pick 1)
2019 - Pick 2 (Anderson)

If North had access to these players, how much better would they have been (note they didn't rate Daicos)?

Not to mention all the other academy / FS picks like Campbell, Gulden, Green, Jones, etc going in the first round.

Either have a draft, or go back to zones for all teams.

 

[Sphynx]

The old "hide the unpopular announcement during grand final week". If true, I suspect this will be done at 4.55pm on the Friday night, or at 3/4 time of the GF.

Seriously, you generally get what you deserve in this competition, the draft is already compromised enough with academy and FS picks, affecting clubs down the bottom.

The last 3 drafts:

2021 - Pick 2 (Darcy), pick 4 (Daicos)
2020 - Pick 1 (pick 1)
2019 - Pick 2 (Anderson)

If North had access to these players, how much better would they have been (note they didn't rate Daicos)?

Not to mention all the other academy / FS picks like Campbell, Gulden, Green, Jones, etc going in the first round.

Either have a draft, or go back to zones for all teams.

Not to mention that our #1 pick will be compromised with Ashcroft as well.

As you said, with JUH and the GC PP, pick 2 has been compromised in the last 4 seasons consecutively.

 

[craig crowing]

Keep reading posts that we could get 2 late firsts for our pick 5 to get Rankine plus get first round in draft.
Just don't know how Crows going to make that happen .
Not too sure how we will pull a late first for Rankine without some sort of sweetener either.

 

[Mutineer]

Keep reading posts that we could get 2 late firsts for our pick 5 to get Rankine plus get first round in draft.
Just don't know how Crows going to make that happen .
Not too sure how we will pull a late first for Rankine without some sort of sweetener either.

Thankfully we've moved that Binuk guy on haven't we?

 

[Mutineer]

Keep reading posts that we could get 2 late firsts for our pick 5 to get Rankine plus get first round in draft.
Just don't know how Crows going to make that happen .
Not too sure how we will pull a late first for Rankine without some sort of sweetener either.

Difficult to see how we get Rankine if it's on without this year's 1st or next year's 1st being involved somehow.

 

[Thetrader15]

Not to mention that our #1 pick will be compromised with Ashcroft as well.

As you said, with JUH and the GC PP, pick 2 has been compromised in the last 4 seasons consecutively.

What's the point of the draft if the bottom team can't get the best player?

I'm against the FS as a rule, as the playing field isn't even for all clubs, e.g. GWS / GC can't have a FS as they haven't been around long enough for those players to come through.

If they said no academy / FS / Zones / PPs before the 3rd round, I could live with it.

 

[feenix67]

Thankfully we've moved that Binuk guy on haven't we?

I think we still have him on a consulting contract

 

[Mutineer]

I think we still have him on a consulting contract

Bugger!

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Thankfully we've moved that Binuk guy on haven't we?

Have we?

 

[Mutineer]

Have we?

I thought I read he was let go due to the COVID cuts but perhaps I'm wrong.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

I thought I read he was let go due to the COVID cuts but perhaps I'm wrong.

Nope, still with us.

 

[Scorpus]

I thought I read he was let go due to the COVID cuts but perhaps I'm wrong.

I think he went overseas for a bit but pretty sure he's still employed in some capacity

 

[Mutineer]

I think he went overseas for a bit but pretty sure he's still employed in some capacity

Yep according to "google" he's based in the USA now.

 

[feenix67]

Yep according to "google" he's based in the USA now.

When I chatted with Hamish last year he said that we still use Binuk as a consultant around trades and draft time but hes not a full time staffer.

 

[radiojake]

Bugger!

I'm ambivalent about his role, not gonna pretend I know whether he is worth it or not - just wondering why you don't seem keen with his employment

 

[Mutineer]

I'm ambivalent about his role, not gonna pretend I know whether he is worth it or not - just wondering why you don't seem keen with his employment

Sooner see the money spent on actual talent identification as in employing more high quality scouts to give us extra eyes on the actual footballing ability of potential future draftees rather than numbers crunching boffins.

No doubt some will disagree but that'where I sit.

 

[spenze]

Sooner see the money spent on actual talent identification as in employing more high quality scouts to give us extra eyes on the actual footballing ability of potential future draftees rather than numbers crunching boffins.

No doubt some will disagree but that'where I sit.

So you're saying we should get Rendell back?

 

[Mutineer]

So you're saying we should get Rendell back?

Absolutely not, that boat has sailed...

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Mutineer]

Mego Red