List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2

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George Kramer said:
I think our current situation requires a Spackler transcript Drugs Are Bad Mackay?

I’d love to be a fly on the wall if Roo, Reid and Kelly were asked to explain our plans to the board. This is my half arsed attempt.

“We don’t have list spots, so we are going to have to delist a player and put them on the rookie list”
“That means someone might pick them up right if they are any good?”
“Well we plan on doing it to Seeds, no one will want him”
“What you mean the guy who suffered concussion whilst employed by us and has been dealing with it all year? You want to do that to him?”
“Ok Strachan then”
“But we don’t have a back up ruck. Plus I’m a little confused, why don’t we have list spots?”
“Most of our squad is contracted”
“So this has been your strategy all along? Delist a contracted player and move them to the rookie list? What was the strategy if we got Hopper, JHF or another decent player?”
“No we were hoping someone would take one of our contracted players we didn’t want. As for those players, get real, we can only focus on one player at a time and we were busy with Rankine arguing about a late pick swap”
“Oh that’s reassuring, why didn’t anyone want our contracted players”
“They aren’t very good, no one wanted them”
“But you thought they were good enough to give a contract to beyond this year?”
“Ummm yep, but on the bright side we won’t have this problem next year, we have lots of players out of contract”
“Oh that’s a positive, so you’ve got average players we can delist, lucky none of the good ones will be out of contract, give me some names”
“Well Fog is on the list, but he’s only had half a decent season”

Olsen “You clowns are ******* useless, get me Jason Cripps”
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What makes you think putting Seedsman on the list is treating him poorly?
 
Vader said:
The list mathematics, as of today...

Start position: 37/6/2
Brown, Rowe, Frampton, Davis, Turner: 34/4/2
Rankine: 35/4/2

Future moves:
Strachan, Butts upgrade: 37/2/2
2x ND selections: 39/2/2

The most we can have on our senior list is 38... so someone else needs to go.
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So is the sticky post from Scorpus missing Turner from the 2022 list? That one only goes up to 44 and has 5 rookies.
 

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Scorpus said:
We knew Matt Crouch and Hately would be ineligible for SANFL finals so drafted Turner to improve our chances of a SANFL flag
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If that was the thinking, then the entire football department need to be sacked.
Their job is to create a list to win an AFL premiership. We had a pick which should have been used to help with that.
 
beagle2 said:
Dollars is the problem . He has a contract which won’t fit in this years cap
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In that case we should be going to the AFL and demanding we be allowed to pay him out outside the cap and retire him..

Its in the AFL’s interest he doesnt play on..

Imagine he plays on and gets concussed again..
 
thebirdman 24 said:
Drafting a slow, unathletic, non-contested small forward is bad enough in the rookie draft let alone the main draft. Arguing over second/third rounder is pointless, it was poor drafting full stop.

I'm more pissed we blew games on him especially late in the year when we 100% knew he was getting delisted.

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glengowan said:
We have a glut of players we could delist and promise to pick up in rookie draft with the hope someone picks them up before us. Seedsman, McAsey, McPherson, Murphy, Crouch. Are we allowed to do that?
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Yes. Indeed, we may have to do just this.
 
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Vader said:
The risk is waaaay too high that we'd be gazumped, with another club drafting him before we can re-draft him - as happened to GC with Greenwood. Strachan has shown enough at AFL level to attract the attention of other clubs, and AFL ruckmen don't grow on trees.

Note that our only other rucks are ROB, Berg and TT - so the inability to re-draft him would leave our ruck stocks in a perilous state, to say the least.
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I’d argue that AFL ruckmen absolutely grow on trees. I’d think that most clubs number one ruckman started off at a different club and every year there seems to be major movement of ruck stocks during trade week.

TT and Berg would be absolutely fine as back up rucks… it’s not like we’ll be competing for a finals spot/flag only to have our season derailed because of O’Brien going down with injury. Also, Strachan isn’t so good that he couldn’t easily be replaced at the mid-season draft or during next years trade period.

If we do need to open up one more spot in our list, there are worse options than letting Strachan go.
 
Miss Vanessa said:
I’d argue that AFL ruckmen absolutely grow on trees. I’d think that most clubs number one ruckman started off at a different club and every year there seems to be major movement of ruck stocks during trade week.

TT and Berg would be absolutely fine as back up rucks… it’s not like we’ll be competing for a finals spot/flag only to have our season derailed because of O’Brien going down with injury. Also, Strachan isn’t so good that he couldn’t easily be replaced at the mid-season draft or during next years trade period.

If we do need to open up one more spot in our list, there are worse options than letting Strachan go.
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If someone gazumps us on Strachan, then we'd need to find another ruckman with one of our 2x ND picks, or our only RD pick. If there are worse options than letting Strachan go, then I don't want to think about what they are. It's a terrible idea.
 
jenny61_99 said:
Do we have to upgrade Butts and Strachan?
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Yes - both have already maxxed out their permitted 4 years on the rookie list. The only other alternative is to delist them, and then re-draft them again - and both would be a very good chance of being gazumped. Both are contracted for 2023.
 
We are looking at a potential major overhaul of our list next year. (obviously they're not ALL going to happen, but I can see some spuds getting new contracts because we simply won't have the option to get rid of them all.

Most likely to not be at the Crows after 2023?

Crouch
Seedsman
McPherson
McAsey

Another season of mediocrity and you can include:

Sholl
Borlase
Newchurch


Contracted until end of 2023
Rory Sloane - Retire/Contract 1 year
Chayce Jones - New contract/Delist/trade (Would need to have a solid year next year. If Tassie get the green light for a team in 2024 then it might be perfect time to offload him)
Harry Schoenberg - New contract
Andrew McPherson - Delist
Josh Worrell - New Contract ASAP
Shane McAdam - New Contract
Jordan Butts (R) - New Contract
Fischer McAsey - Delist/Trade
Tom Doedee - New Contract
Darcy Fogarty - New Contract
Lachlan Murphy - Delist potential
Nick Murray (R) - New Contract
Kieran Strachan (R) - New Contract
Matthew Crouch - Trade
Paul Seedsman - Delist/retire
Jackson Hately - - Delist/trade
Zac Talyor - New Contract
Luke Nankervis - New Contract
Taylor Walker - New Contract
James Borlase - Delist
Tariek NewChurch - Delist

Contracted until end of 2024
Lachlan Sholl - Could be traded in 2023
Will Hamill - Depending on further head injuries may also be a retire in 2023
 
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WeedsMullet84 said:
We are looking at a potential major overhaul of our list next year.

Contracted until end of 2023
Rory Sloane - Retire/Contract 1 year
Chayce Jones - New contract/Delist/trade (Would need to have a solid year next year. If Tassie get the green light for a team in 2024 then it might be perfect time to offload him)
Harry Schoenberg - New contract
Andrew McPherson - Delist
Josh Worrell - New Contract ASAP
Shane McAdam - New Contract
Jordan Butts (R) - New Contract
Fischer McAsey - Delist/Trade
Tom Doedee - New Contract
Darcy Fogarty - New Contract
Lachlan Murphy - Delist potential
Nick Murray (R) - New Contract
Kieran Strachan (R) - New Contract
Matthew Crouch - Trade
Paul Seedsman - Delist/retire
Jackson Hately - - Delist/trade
Zac Talyor - New Contract
Luke Nankervis - New Contract
Taylor Walker - New Contract
James Borlase - Delist
Tariek NewChurch - Delist

Contracted until end of 2024
Lachlan Sholl - Could be traded in 2023
Will Hamill - Depending on further head injuries may also be a retire in 2023
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Strachan - delist
Walker - Retire/1 year contract
Crouch - delist
McAsey - new contract if form warrants
 
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