List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2

[Scorpus]

Updated list position



And 2024 as it stands

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[Scorpus]

Without question that we wasted our time, however, I doubt we wasted his.

After all, at least Brett can now say he was on an AFL list, and I assume there are some additional perks with being in that environment for a few months that he wouldn't had access to at Glenelg.

He would have been paid tens of thousands for his 6 month stint. I believe mid-season picks that aren't retained get a $20,000 payout on top of their rookie list deal

 

[Mr_Moogle]

It feels like Turner was only brought in to bolster our midfield for SANFL finals.

 

[MRB37]

C'mon, that's not true.

They're winning an SANFL flag for the 150 people that turn up?

If nothing else, they don't want to win because they don't want the SANFL being vindictive with them in the future. Self interest said they don't want to win.

I think they planned to keep Turner, but they also planned to trade Crouch, Sholl and others. Plans changed as circumstances did

Part of the sales pitch that the rebuild is "on track" was the success of the SANFL side.

 

[Thetrader15]

Adelaide - O'Brien - Developed
Brisbane - McInerney - Developed / Fort (traded)
Carlton - De Koning - Developed (Pittonet traded but see DK as they're future)
Collingwood - Cameron (traded)
Essendon - Draper - Developed / Phillips (traded)
Fremantle - Darcy (Developed) / Jackson (traded)
Geelong - Blicavs (Developed / Stanley - traded)
GC - Witt's (traded)
GWS - Preuss (traded) / Flynn (developed)
Hawthorn - Reeves (Developed) / McEvoy (Traded) / Lynch (traded)
Melbourne - Gawn (Developed) / Grundy (traded)
North - Goldstein (Developed) / Xerri (developed)
Port Power - Lycett (traded) / Hayes (Developed)
Richmond - Nankervis (traded)
St Kilda - Marshall (developed) / Ryder (traded)
Sydney - Hickey (traded) / Ladhams (traded)
West Coast - NicNat (Developed) / Williams (Developed)
Dogs - English (Developed)

11/18 Clubs developed their own ruckman with possibly Port and Geelong adding to that number in the next 12-18 months.

I've added a few more for completeness those who have played a significant portion last year or will this year.

Developed: 16
Traded: 15

Suggests there's no right or wrong way to go about it.

 

[1990crow]

I've added a few more for completeness those who have played a significant portion last year or will this year.

Developed: 16
Traded: 15

Suggests there's no right or wrong way to go about it.

Majority of those youve added aren't the number one ruck, or have retired so doesn't really reflect the actual conclusion.
The current numbers (mine) show that most clubs are developing their own number one ruck.

 

[George Kramer]

Adelaide - O'Brien - Developed
Brisbane - McInerney - Developed
Carlton - De Koning - Developed (Pittonet traded but see DK as they're future)
Collingwood - Cameron (traded)
Essendon - Draper - Developed
Fremantle - Darcy (Developed)
Geelong - Blicavs (Developed / Stanley - traded)
GC - Witt's (traded)
GWS - Preuss (traded)
Hawthorn - Reeves (Developed)
Melbourne - Gawn (Developed)
North - Goldstein (Developed)
Port Power - Lycett (traded) / Hayes (Developed)
Richmond - Nankervis (traded)
St Kilda - Marshall (developed)
Sydney - Hickey (traded)
West Coast - NicNat (Developed) / Williams (Developed)
Dogs - English (Developed)

11/18 Clubs developed their own ruckman with possibly Port and Geelong adding to that number in the next 12-18 months.

Nice work

 

[George Kramer]

I've added a few more for completeness those who have played a significant portion last year or will this year.

Developed: 16
Traded: 15

Suggests there's no right or wrong way to go about it.

The difference is the vast majority of other clubs have given themselves a chance of using either option, develop their own ruck and trade. We have effectively decided to rule out one of those options and are now stuck with a trade.

Doesn’t it concern you that we’ve practically gone it alone in limiting our options?

Unless of course by some miracle we decide next year will be the first year since 2014 we’d draft a developing ruckman.

 

[rabidcrow]

The difference is the vast majority of other clubs have given themselves a chance of using either option, develop their own ruck and trade. We have effectively decided to rule out one of those options and are now stuck with a trade.

Doesn’t it concern you that we’ve practically gone it alone in limiting our options?

Unless of course by some miracle we decide next year will be the first year since 2014 we’d draft a developing ruckman.

Developing is so hit and miss though. Look at Port last year. Have a first rounder developing for a few years - and then when Lycett went down they hardly played him and went makeshift options instead

Not the highest priority I don’t think. What I did like about Barnett is he has shown a bit as KPD so that would have been nice for an option


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[George Kramer]

Developing is so hit and miss though. Look at Port last year. Have a first rounder developing for a few years - and then when Lycett went down they hardly played him and went makeshift options instead

Not the highest priority I don’t think. What I did like about Barnett is he has shown a bit as KPD so that would have been nice for an option


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Well we can’t hit though can we if we are not in the game?

And all draftees are hit and miss, do we cancel the draft?

 

[crows dude]

Developing is so hit and miss though. Look at Port last year. Have a first rounder developing for a few years - and then when Lycett went down they hardly played him and went makeshift options instead

Not the highest priority I don’t think. What I did like about Barnett is he has shown a bit as KPD so that would have been nice for an option


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Hey ROB showed a bit in the TAC Cup at CHB as well. Weve never tried him there though in SANFL or AFL

 

[crow2crow]

Hey ROB showed a bit in the TAC Cup at CHB as well. Weve never tried him there though in SANFL or AFL

he would get it, kick it and it would end up closer to goal than where he started and hes not chipping it backwards

 

[Dogga]

Hey ROB showed a bit in the TAC Cup at CHB as well. Weve never tried him there though in SANFL or AFL

Yeah not sure i'd wanna see ROB picking up Buddy, Jez or a King brother

 

[Mutineer]

Yeah not sure i'd wanna see ROB picking up Buddy, Jez or a King brother

Did a decent shut down job on the very athletic Darcy Moore (2 goals) in a TAC Cup Final who just happened to be considered the best KPf prospect in the land at the time.

 

[Thetrader15]

Majority of those youve added aren't the number one ruck, or have retired so doesn't really reflect the actual conclusion.
The current numbers (mine) show that most clubs are developing their own number one ruck.

Well, if we go back to last year, only looking at #1 ruck...Marshall hardly played ruck until the end of the year, and Blivcas was only ruck when Stanley was injured.

Adelaide - O'Brien - Developed
Brisbane - McInerney - Developed
Carlton - De Koning - Developed
Collingwood - Cameron traded
Essendon - Draper - Developed
Fremantle - Darcy Developed
Geelong - Stanley - traded
GC - Witts - traded
GWS - Preuss traded
Hawthorn - Reeves Developed
Melbourne - Gawn - Developed
North - Goldstein Developed
Port Power - Finlayson - traded
Richmond - Nankervis traded
St Kilda - Ryder - traded
Sydney - Hickey - traded
West Coast - Williams - Developed
Dogs - English - Developed

You're right, 10 developed, 8 traded in. Conclusive evidence!

 

[CharlieCrow]

ROB can think what he likes but he's off my Christmas list for meeting with Jordan Peterson and then proudly posing for photos with him.

 

[MRB37]

ROB can think what he likes but he's off my Christmas list for meeting with Jordan Peterson and then proudly posing for photos with him.

Was hardly a surprise to see it.

 

[Thylacinus]

I wouldn't take ROB off mine. I am a believer in free speech and while I don't agree with Peterson on everything I find some of his insights worth thinking about and at times a necessary corrective to some of todays political correctness.

 

[crow2crow]

Yeah not sure i'd wanna see ROB picking up Buddy, Jez or a King brother

ROB couldn't man up father christmas

 

[Scorpus]

Didn't people on here a few years back find Reilly O'Brien

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Reilly O'brien

Age

29

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

5star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

14.4

3star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

24.8

5star

's Twitter likes? Hardly a secret he's into that community

 

[GreyCrow]

Rob = Slippery Pete confirmed

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It feels like Turner was only brought in to bolster our midfield for SANFL finals.

And to weaken Glenelg's

 

[jackster83]

And to weaken Glenelg's

We should have grabbed Panos.

 

[George Kramer]

We should have grabbed Panos.

You’re out!!

 

[Mutineer]

We should have grabbed Panos.

Nah, Harry Boyd...

 

[crow2crow]

It feels like Turner was only brought in to bolster our midfield for SANFL finals.

Yes this sickens me in the guts to be honest after previously defending the club's actions