List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2

[Scorpus]

Updated list position



And 2024 as it stands

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[Danger in Texas]

He's re-signed with Glenelg now, so I'd say he had contingency plans in place.

Any AFL player who's in limbo during Oct/Nov period would have those plans lined up

Still feels like he was expecting more of an opportunity at AFL level, nonetheless

 

[Danger in Texas]

Is that true? not a great look for our club if we blindsided him too

From August after a report from Theo

 

[crow2crow]

O'Brien never did seem like the sharpest tool in the shed

he got a perfect 99.95 on the ATAR so he's incredibly smart intellectually

 

[Sanders]

The entire AFL industry thought that Crouch would be traded.

That’s not true. Where did that come from???

• No one wanted him for free the year before
• We contracted him and he continued to decline
• we offered him around (who knows how we might have offered to sweeten the pot) and no takers

How does that get spun into the whole industry expected him to be traded.

And besides why take him mid year on a 6th month deal, if it was dependent on end of year list moves. That doesn’t even make sense

 

[1970crow]

We smelled an SANFL flag

we stated plainly that SANFL success was proof that the rebuild is on track. We definitely put eggs in that basket.

 

[jackster83]

So what's that? Maybe 60 people who follow the SANFL?

Its an absolute, complete irrelevance.

That's why Nicks, Kelly, even Silvers kept bringing up the success of the SANFL side at every opportunity.

 

[Sanders]

No one cares.

If anyone cared, they'd turn up.

Is that how you feel about the women’s game too?

 

[jackster83]

People who don’t agree with you are socially gullible?

Yep, classic Kristof.

 

[Sanders]

Of course it makes a difference.

If someone traded for Crouch, we had a list spot and a need.

Now we don't. It's just common sense.

That makes no sense common or otherwise.

If true - it’s plainly not - why take him mid year on a 1/2 year deal - for something happening end of year

The timeline of your narrative doesn’t work

 

[Mostyn]

Doesn't explain why he was still training with us earlier this week, though

Probably working through what we wanted to do with the Seedsman LTI spot.

Can't imagine we now think retaining another mature bodies mid is the best use of it.

I don't understand why we're getting so outraged about this? The guy signed a six month contract, it didn't get extended.

If we made some promises to him, that's probably a bit rough. But I don't think clubs do that. You constantly hear draftees say they're not given promises.

 

[Mostyn]

People who don’t agree with you are socially gullible?

No, just people that agree with far right mythos, that somehow white guys have become the victims. The hucksters selling that are making fortunes.

I disagree with you all the time, but I don't think you're socially gullible.

 

[crow2crow]

Probably working through what we wanted to do with the Seedsman LTI spot.

Can't imagine we now think retaining another mature bodies mid is the best use of it.

I don't understand why we're getting so outraged about this? The guy signed a six month contract, it didn't get extended.

If we made some promises to him, that's probably a bit rough. But I don't think clubs do that. You constantly heat draftees say they're not given promises.

You thinking a ruckman for the LTI spot created or key back?

what happened to highmore? was he re-rookied or in limbo?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

You thinking a ruckman for the LTI spot created or key back?

what happened to highmore? was he re-rookied or in limbo?

We need another key position player, even moreso if McAsey quits.

We have enough ruck coverage, but we are thin for key position depth.

 

[Mostyn]

That makes no sense common or otherwise.

If true - it’s plainly not - why take him mid year on a 1/2 year deal - for something happening end of year

The timeline of your narrative doesn’t work

Of course it does.

Are you actually arguing that you think we drafted Turner to win a reserves flag?

If you are, say it.

I'm saying we drafted Turner on a six month deal instead of Carmichael on 18 months because we wanted flexibility. Our intention was always to hold him for another year, but circumstances changed. That's why we wanted flexibility.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

That's why Nicks, Kelly, even Silvers kept bringing up the success of the SANFL side at every opportunity.

Making the Pre-lim finals of the SANFL = 'Success'

Classic AFC

 

[Mostyn]

From August after a report from Theo

August. So before the trade period?

 

[Mostyn]

We need another key position player, even moreso if McAsey quits.

We have enough ruck coverage, but we are thin for key position depth.

No, we need to draft Turner. Haven't you been following this thread?

 

[Sanders]

No, just people that agree with far right mythos, that somehow white guys have become the victims. The hucksters selling that are making fortunes.

I disagree with you all the time, but I don't think you're socially gullible.

You’re more comfortable being wrong than most. It’s your super power

 

[Mostyn]

That's why Nicks, Kelly, even Silvers kept bringing up the success of the SANFL side at every opportunity.

Because the juniors were playing well. It was a good sign for the future.

It's still the reserves team.

Richmond probably talked up the success of their VFL team, except I wouldn't know because I don't care that much about their reserves comp.

 

[Sanders]

Of course it does.

Are you actually arguing that you think we drafted Turner to win a reserves flag?

If you are, say it.

I'm saying we drafted Turner on a six month deal instead of Carmichael on 18 months because we wanted flexibility. Our intention was always to hold him for another year, but circumstances changed. That's why we wanted flexibility.

I don’t think any circumstances changed.

And yes, I do think weakening Glenelg and boosting our chances played a part. As bush league as that would be, yes, I think it was a factor

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No, we need to draft Turner. Haven't you been following this thread?

Think you know by now I'm not a sheep!

 

[Mostyn]

You’re more comfortable being wrong than most. It’s your super power

No, my power is being accepting of all people, even the super gullible ...

 

[Sanders]

August. So before the trade period?

Sure looks like we made promises or at least we let him believe what suited us

 

[Sanders]

No, my power is being accepting of all people, even the super gullible ...

And my point rests

 

[Mostyn]

I don’t think any circumstances changed.

And yes, I do think weakening Glenelg and boosting our chances played a part. As bush league as that would be, yes, I think it was a factor

Okay.

I don't think we would ever draft to try and win a reserves flag. I don't think any AFL team would, even Port (as much as we've claimed that in the past).

If folks want to believe that, go ahead. It just doesn't stack up to me.