List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2

[Scorpus]

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And 2024 as it stands

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[WaynesWorld19]

Why would we?
Fogarty, Thilthorpe and 2024 first rounder Tyler Welsh coming through.

Forget Welsh ....he's another 4 years away minimum

I think we should always look for good KPP bargains ..... so ATM we have Fogarty, Thilthorpe, Himmelberg and perhaps Murray at a pinch .....yeah, i'd take Lemmey as a late pick, looked ok playing DEF too

 

[Mostyn]

Reid mentioned Seedsman, which was interesting.

Dawson, Jones, Seedsman, Smith, Milera, Sholl, Soligo, Cook with other kids like Taylor coming through.

You also forgot Nankervis, who Reid also mentioned.

 

[Mostyn]

Yeah I know you can throw anyone on the Wing but that's not really what I was asking.

Out of those lot you have
Dawson- Our preferred KPD because he can kick and mark.
Seed- enough said.
Smith- it's not 1999
Soligo- have him on ball every day.
Jones - Not fare. I Dont know what he is just yet, but he's definitely not a Wimgman.
Milera- Maybe one day, should he manage to better his pre-injury form(doubtful).
Taylor- onballer.
Cook - Maybe.
Sholl- For now.

Cupboard looks pretty average to me.

I think the options are -

Hinge
Jones
Cook
Nankervis
Milera
Dawson
Sholl
Taylor (may struggle for midfield time)

That's already a lot to wade through.

 

[Betts are off]

Forget Welsh ....he's another 4 years away minimum

I think we should always look for good KPP bargains ..... so ATM we have Fogarty, Thilthorpe, Himmelberg and perhaps Murray at a pinch .....yeah, i'd take Lemmey as a late pick, looked ok playing DEF too

Lemmey as a swingman for a late pick is a sneaky draft wish of mine. Even more-so if he's available in the rookie draft.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Lemmey as a swingman for a late pick is a sneaky draft wish of mine. Even more-so if he's available in the rookie draft.

Would appear to me a perfect "project" player .....late draft or rookie, as you say

 

[Crow till I die]

Would appear to me a perfect "project" player .....late draft or rookie, as you say

He will be long gone before then surely

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He will be long gone before then surely

Probably some club will take a gamble on lemmey with a late pick .....it'd be a no lose gamble

 

[Betts are off]

He will be long gone before then surely

Not if Cal Twomey is anything to go by. Not in his top 30 from 2 days ago. Or his "Next 10" article posted on AFL.com today.

In a draft where its predicted less then 50 players will be taken, Cal doesn't rate him in the first 40.

 

[GROTTO]

It seems a given that talls take longer to develop at AFL level

But if at 17/18 years old they don't carve up national championship matches the same leeway is not afforded...?

Just look at Fog.

Literally many posters on here wanted him off our list during this year. I dont think we managed him well and it took him longer to reach a level, where he has the potential to rip apart an opposition defence on a regular basis.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Just look at Fog.

Literally many posters on here wanted him off our list during this year. I dont think we managed him well and it took him longer to reach a level, where he has the potential to rip apart an opposition defence on a regular basis.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought many wanted Fog jettisoned ....although, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone now admitting to it

 

[Bearded Clam]

Yeah I know you can throw anyone on the Wing but that's not really what I was asking.

Out of those lot you have
Dawson- Our preferred KPD because he can kick and mark.
Seed- enough said.
Smith- it's not 1999
Soligo- have him on ball every day.
Jones - Not fare. I Dont know what he is just yet, but he's definitely not a Wimgman.
Milera- Maybe one day, should he manage to better his pre-injury form(doubtful).
Taylor- onballer.
Cook - Maybe.
Sholl- For now.

Cupboard looks pretty average to me.

Nankervis?… he’s looking very promising as a wing/half forward type.

 

[Mostyn]

Would appear to me a perfect "project" player .....late draft or rookie, as you say

I'd maybe look to trade back in around 40, if he's there.

Big Crows fan, has all the tools as a KPD.

 

[Ramify]

I think the options are -

Hinge
Jones
Cook
Nankervis
Milera
Dawson
Sholl
Taylor (may struggle for midfield time)

That's already a lot to wade through.

I'll pay Nankervis. I think he could play as a true winger at some stage.
Hadn't considered him.

Nankervis, Hinge, Hamill could do it.

Yeah I think out of our young brigade, Hamill is our best possibility. Unfortunately I don't see him playing long enough to make it out of our back line.

 

[Ramify]

Nankervis?… he’s looking very promising as a wing/half forward type.

Agree. I'd forgotten about him.

 

[Ramify]

I think the options are -

Hinge
Jones
Cook
Nankervis
Milera
Dawson
Sholl
Taylor (may struggle for midfield time)

That's already a lot to wade through.

As I said above, there are always options, but if those are it then I'd hardly consider the cupboard full.

If our gameplan is to use our wings as a filler spot for utility players who cant slot into any of our other "stacked" lines,rather than a specialist,attacking position, then you could throw 3/4 of the lists names in the cupboard.

 

[Ramify]

So you're suggesting Poulter is that AFL standard Wingman .....if I've read your post correctly

You prefer Poulter to Hinge, Cook, Nankervis, Soligo, Dawson ?......hell, I'd even take Sholl over Poulter

There's a reason a player gets delisted after his rookie Contract !

No comment on Poulter mate.

Just bemusement at our reasoning for not considering him, along with our assessment of the list in general.

 

[Sanders]

Reid on the "Sensible Crow" podcast, made a point that trading #23 was for two reasons. One on points for Max Michalanney, but also opening flexibility across two drafts, and the ability on draft night this year to be able to trade back in should there be the desire too to grab someone that slips down.

When isn’t that true?

When does a team ever preclude the possibility of making a deal if the right situation arises

That’s a given isn’t it

 

[baldandbroke]

Glad I'm not the only one who thought many wanted Fog jettisoned ....although, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone now admitting to it

Vader … just checking how deep the loathing still runs for Fog? Still not possessing enough AFL traits? Not capable? Too narrow a skill set? Wrong era? Where did you end up … let me guess, you always thought he could do it if he applied himself

Many more on here wanted him out. Even most of us pro-Fogsters were hanging in by our fingernails. It got pretty dark before the dawn.

 

[Sanders]

Vader … just checking how deep the loathing still runs for Fog? Still not possessing enough AFL traits? Not capable? Too narrow a skill set? Wrong era? Where did you end up … let me guess, you always thought he could do it if he applied himself

Many more on here wanted him out. Even most of us pro-Fogsters were hanging in by our fingernails. It got pretty dark before the dawn.

Vader wasn’t the worst. That was Jeff.

But still, those types never admit they were wrong, the turnaround shows they were right and that eventually the penny dropped for player XYZ.

 

[Vader]

Vader … just checking how deep the loathing still runs for Fog? Still not possessing enough AFL traits? Not capable? Too narrow a skill set? Wrong era? Where did you end up … let me guess, you always thought he could do it if he applied himself

Many more on here wanted him out. Even most of us pro-Fogsters were hanging in by our fingernails. It got pretty dark before the dawn.

My criticisms of him always revolved around his weight, fitness, and work rate. To his credit, he worked his arse off with Burgess to resolve these issues - as well as working with the psychologist to address his lack of confidence (which I hadn't noted as an issue).

My criticisms of him at the time were 100% valid, and it is his work on fixing these problems that allowed him to blossom late in the season.

 

[Sanders]

Vader wasn’t the worst. That was Jeff.

But still, those types never admit they were wrong, the turnaround shows they were right and that eventually the penny dropped for player XYZ.

My criticisms of him always revolved around his weight, fitness, and work rate. To his credit, he worked his arse off with Burgess to resolve these issues - as well as working with the psychologist to address his lack of confidence (which I hadn't noted as an issue).

My criticisms of him at the time were 100% valid, and it is his work on fixing these problems that allowed him to blossom late in the season.

Exactly as I said. Just like clockwork:

They were right all along, and it’s only because the players suddenly changed their wicked ways did they find success

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Vader … just checking how deep the loathing still runs for Fog? Still not possessing enough AFL traits? Not capable? Too narrow a skill set? Wrong era? Where did you end up … let me guess, you always thought he could do it if he applied himself

Many more on here wanted him out. Even most of us pro-Fogsters were hanging in by our fingernails. It got pretty dark before the dawn.

Bizarre to have a crack at Vader when admitting as a ‘pro-Fogster’ you were hanging on by your fingernails.
The turnaround of Fog mid-season was amazing, but there were alarm bells ringing by plenty of experienced pundits outside of the Crows board who were worried he’d reached his ceiling.
IMO he’s shifted his ceiling significantly, and started to show things he didn’t look like ever going to be capable of.


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[Mostyn]

I'll pay Nankervis. I think he could play as a true winger at some stage.
Hadn't considered him.



Yeah I think out of our young brigade, Hamill is our best possibility. Unfortunately I don't see him playing long enough to make it out of our back line.

I actually think Hamill is least likely.

Shows some good defensive skills, but makes so many errors by foot that I think he's probably not going to get there.

 

[Thylacinus]

I actually think Hamill is least likely.

Shows some good defensive skills, but makes so many errors by foot that I think he's probably not going to get there.

Hmmm. Hamill not only can break the lines with his pace, but is a very good user of the fooball by foot! I hope he is able to remain fit and free of further concussions.

 

[thebirdman 24]

Hmmm. Hamill not only can break the lines with his pace, but is a very good user of the fooball by foot! I hope he is able to remain fit and free of further concussions.

Not sure where this myth about Hamill having a good kick came from. He is generally horrendous by foot. In 21/22 it was rare to see him ever hit up a clean target.

Hopefully he can improve his kicking because the rest of his game is good and we need a solid small defender.

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