List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part III

[Diehard Saint]

I think there is an argument to be made about whether we were used as a pawn.

Ultimately it does look that way - seeing as he Is apparently staying.

The actual argument is, if we rated him - should we have gone balls deep on an offer and blown the pies away?

But then you get into the waters of being negligent with someone who has issues with behaviour.

Very fine line. So it’s easy to see how people sit on either side of it.

I think we handled it really well.
We have been interested in him for a while, but made a responsible offer, treating him as an adult - not silly money which could have blown up in our faces.

So, we didn’t get him. It’s pretty unusual for a player who is happy at his club to leave and staying would have been his first option. However, far from being left with egg on our faces, I believe it is Collingwood who come out of this looking pretty weak. They backed down because we forced their hand, so all their posturing about behavioural clauses turned out to be just that, posturing. And this is on top of caving into Grundy’s demands for a nine year contract previously.

The Pies have lost a certain amount of leverage in their negotiating with players in the future I believe, because player and managers just have to dig their heels in and there’s a chance they’ll cave.

 

[Mowman]

When did Gags let it be known he was gettable?

A reporter came out and said other clubs may think he is...no where did that say that St Kilda or Gags said anything...

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was told a week before it come out in the media that we would move Clark on if right deal could be made

 

[Hayes4PM]

I’ll take the Weid for a packet of chips, but there will be no decent pick involved

 

[Saint_Dos]

I’ll take the Weid for a packet of chips, but there will be decent pick involved

Shouldnt be a decent pick. Future 3rd?

 

[Saintos The ITK]

I’ll take the Weid for a packet of chips, but there will be no decent pick involved

I’d back in Ratts to get the best out of him but isn’t he a bit of a Sharmy clone???

 

[Diehard Saint]

So as we stand all the hysterics and tantrums were for nothing.

Interesting Bytel wasn't one of the four signed on today.

yeah, but it’s fun!

 

[Barrels]

If barrels scores bradys misso then im a shoe in with the golfing godess Paige

 

[Saint_Dos]

I’d back in Ratts to get the best out of him but isn’t he a bit of a Sharmy clone???

Much more useful in the ruck

 

[Mowman]

Much more useful in the ruck

Is he ?
How many games has he played in the ruck ?

 

[PoppedCorn]

Never heard of him




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[austinnn]

Essendon and this deadshit fireman agent so predictable. How to get a better price, Saints not enough of a threat, bring in a haggling rival.

Whole thing is trash, I'd walk if we don't get a signature today or tomorrow.

 

[saintsrfreak]

Some quotes from the Dees board on Weidman:

"I get frustrated at players who get constantly out marked in contests like Ben Brown

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Ben Brown

Age

32

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200cm

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100kg

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Fwd

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Season

Last 5

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10.7

3star

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7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

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1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

because they are poor with their positioning and weak one on one but I truly despise players that deliberately take short steps to avoid contests and that’s about where Weideman is at."

"This guy has all of intensity of a 13 year old house cat. What an absolute ******."

 

[NarklesHelmet]

I actually don't think it's a bad thing. Get your own house in order and players will want in. We need new ideas from the coaches box and consistent effort, players getting cohesion etc. Then chase a few added extras when we get that bit right.

Yeah that’s where I’m sitting on this this Trade Period.

Was a time when I’d get excited and follow every morsel of info.

For me our best work has likely already been done with Lade and McGlynn out and Lenny and fresh blood in to coach the forward/mids.

Footy’s a collective sport. You’re only as good as your system.

As Chris Scott says: “effort should be a given”, unlike what our coaches have been banging on about since Richo’s time after the odd good performance “if we just bring that effort every week, we’ll be a good side”.

It should be put to the players, if effort is even something you need to think about, you’re not part of this team.

All I want is a harder edge in the coaching box with some smart tacticians thrown in.

The rest will look after itself as the players will develop better in a winning and stimulating footy culture.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Some quotes from the Dees board on Weidman:

"I get frustrated at players who get constantly out marked in contests like Ben Brown because they are poor with their positioning and weak one on one but I truly despise players that deliberately take short steps to avoid contests and that’s about where Weideman is at."

"This guy has all of intensity of a 13 year old house cat. What an absolute ******."

Pahahahhaha. What a quote!

 

[Mowman]

Some quotes from the Dees board on Weidman:

"I get frustrated at players who get constantly out marked in contests like Ben Brown because they are poor with their positioning and weak one on one but I truly despise players that deliberately take short steps to avoid contests and that’s about where Weideman is at."

"This guy has all of intensity of a 13 year old house cat. What an absolute ******."

Pretty much spot on

 

[Saint_Dos]

Is he ?
How many games has he played in the ruck ?

Spent 2nd half of the season playing as primary ruck in VFL. Looked ok and reckon he would hold up ok as 2nd ruck in AFL

 

[Diehard Saint]

He was a Saints a supporter as a kid....

Need to fly Steele and King up there to chat.

Maybe they’ll come home with Bing….you never know!

 

[PoppedCorn]

Not a normal cat
A house bound 13 year old one

 

[Barrels]

Some quotes from the Dees board on Weidman:

"I get frustrated at players who get constantly out marked in contests like Ben Brown because they are poor with their positioning and weak one on one but I truly despise players that deliberately take short steps to avoid contests and that’s about where Weideman is at."

"This guy has all of intensity of a 13 year old house cat. What an absolute ******."

As I said earlier… awfully awfully soft…

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Anyone here Tom Brown say Weideman wants to come to Saints next year?

Where did he say it

 

[austinnn]

Need to fly Steele and King up there to chat.

Maybe they’ll come home with Bing….you never know!

I don't get it. If he's such a Lenny/Saints fan, why would he categorically shut down the possibility of becoming a Saint and working directly with Lenny? I don't see what his problem is? If we're ok to pay his salary, offer him good terms and give him opportunity in the middle, why wouldn't he?

 

[PoppedCorn]

Soft 13 year old house puss pusses aren't required

Jack hayes will step up and staunch it...putting to doubt all the 'oh hes done a knee its possible he might not come back as good' bullshit flappers

 

[XhazzafootyX]

TB- “sam weideman

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Sam Weideman

Age

27

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.3

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.5

1star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.2

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.4

3star

G

1.2

4star

is keen on the saints. But st kildas interest has cooled”

 

[CursingFijian]

Soft 13 year old house puss pusses aren't required

Jack hayes will step up and staunch it...putting to doubt all the 'oh hes done a knee its possible he might not come back as good' bullshit flappers

Yep if we’re looking for a ruck forward Jack Hayes over weids for me. Honest competitor.

 

[crasha301]

TB- “sam weideman

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Sam Weideman

Age

27

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.3

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.5

1star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.2

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.4

3star

G

1.2

4star

is keen on the saints. But st kildas interest has cooled”

If it was a swap of 3rd rounders type deal he could be useful as a back up. Would certainly help the 2s

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