2022 Victorian State Election-November 26

[CrazyJoeFevola]

Waaaaay better for you than opioids too

I know! I had a heroin addiction for 6 years. Benign on the body and mind but not the bank balance

 

[Rotayjay]

So internal polling is when they ask other members of the Liberal party.

I love it when the Sky News set talk about the 'silent majority'. Yeah, the majority that is so silent it doesn't even make its views known via secret ballot!

 

[Rotayjay]

The tail is wagging the dog here.

Who is deciding Liberal policy? The conservative media or the liberals themselves.

The Liberals are not in control of their own party. They are 100% captured by the conservative media, mining and a few elites.

Until this changes, and they can convince regular Australians they actually give a * about them they have zero prospects.

Could the 2019 federal election be the last major triumph the Coalition ever has? I doubt it, but we can hope.

 

[fishardansin]

What sort of parties do they have at trades hall?

1. Why does Dan Andrews' mate have that much Crisco?
2. I thought Dan didn't get on the beers.
3. You know a party has gone too far when someone's in a neck brace.

 

[Rob R]

By far the funniest part of this election is that the media and cookers were complaining about ALP and Andrews' corruption, and Adem Somyurek, kicked out of the ALP for being too corrupt even for them, is on the verge of winning an upper house seat.

And it's the support of the cookers who are going to get him there. The cookers have been taken for an absolute ride this state election. Donating money and flying in from all over the country to volunteer for Ian Cook. Complaining about corruption then electing an admittedly corrupt person. Everything the cookers argued against is now coming true because they listened to the media which was egging them on.

Hopefully Patten can hold out Somyurek, but it's on a real knife's edge with postals and Below The Line to come. Got a feeling postals will favour Somyurek but that Below the Line voting will save Patten. Surely the cookers in Northern Melbourne aren't stupid enough to vote for the ALP's most corrupt person to make a point to the ALP about corruption, are they? Are they?

He shouldn't (and hopefully wont) be in parliament but it was more that he was the most corrupt pollie not in Dan's faction rather than being the most corrupt pollie in the ALP.

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[randyzany]

I think it can best be summarised by I'm starting to agree with those that argue that not everyone should be allowed to vote.

Believe or not I've heard/read this pearl of wisdom far more often from so-called 'progressives', according to them voters with conservative values are far too stupid and uneducated too realise they're voting against their best interest (voting for their enemy, conservative parties). There are a lot of ignorant assumptions (no surprises there it's what left leaners excel at) being made by 'progressives' from why people vote the way they do and patronizingly thinking that they don't know what they're doing. The idea is that there needs to be some sort of threshold reached to be given the privilege to vote so that potential voters can prove they can be trusted to vote in the correct 'logical' (meaning left leaning parties) manner and stop them from hurting themselves apparently.

Whereas I'm coming from the angle that some voters can't (and/or won't) see the bigger picture and vote entirely for their selfish immediate (usually financial) self interest not taking into consideration what the consequences on others and younger generations those decisions will have in years to come.

This applies to both parties, Labor in the form of buying voters with an ever ballooning public service and infrastructure projects that will saddle future tax payers for who know how long. And the Liberals in the form of screwing a large portion of voters born from the 80s onwards from being able to purchase and own a roof over their heads, it isn't restricted to just one political party both are guilty of it.

Although I think Liberals are by far the biggest culprits in pandering to baby boomers for far too long and a strategy they seriously needed to rethink a decade ago as the boomer demographic is gradually dying out and being promptly replaced by the now majority Gen Y and Z.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Believe or not I've heard/read this pearl of wisdom far more often from so-called 'progressives', according to them voters with conservative values are far too stupid and uneducated too realise they're voting against their best interest (voting for their enemy, conservative parties). There are a lot of ignorant assumptions (no surprises there it's what left leaners excel at) being made by 'progressives' from why people vote the way they do and patronizingly thinking that they don't know what they're doing. The idea is that there needs to be some sort of threshold reached to be given the privilege to vote so that potential voters can prove they can be trusted to vote in the correct 'logical' (meaning left leaning parties) manner and stop them from hurting themselves apparently.

Whereas I'm coming from the angle that some voters can't (and/or won't) see the bigger picture and vote entirely for their selfish immediate (usually financial) self interest not taking into consideration what the consequences on others and younger generations those decisions will have in years to come.

This applies to both parties, Labor in the form of buying voters with an ever ballooning public service and infrastructure projects that will saddle future tax payers for who know how long. And the Liberals in the form of screwing a large portion of voters born from the 80s onwards from being able to purchase and own a roof over their heads, it isn't restricted to just one political party both are guilty of it.

Although I think Liberals are by far the biggest culprits in pandering to baby boomers for far too long and a strategy they seriously needed to rethink a decade ago as the boomer demographic is gradually dying out and being promptly replaced by the now majority Gen Y and Z.

It’s not new. Anyone that’s read or studied the classics, particularly Socrates knows this. It’s also part way of the basis of the electoral college system in the US

 

[randyzany]

Gotta say, his rantings are some of the most deluded, pea-brained drivel I’ve ever read on this website (certainly on this board).

I take this as a compliment coming from a twit that perennially downplays the damage to young people's health (both mentally and physically) the unnecessarily prolonged lockdowns had on them. All just to save Disaster's hide from being an incompetent numptie in keeping covid from leaking out of quarantine, something that average politicians in other states had no major issues in accomplishing. Disaster had no qualms in hiring cheap labour to oversea this so called 'dangerous virus' all the while he was condescendingly scaring his constituents by saying that no pair of shoes or one golf round was worth a life to justify these over the top measures in order to cover his own arse. You're an arseclown for fawning and constantly coming to the defense of such a useless piece of dog turd.

 

[randyzany]

It’s not new. Anyone that’s read or studied the classics, particularly Socrates knows this. It’s also part way of the basis of the electoral college system in the US

Never said I was providing some new revelation, just providing some background on where that statement (not everybody should be allowed a vote) originates from and it's not merely conservatives thinking it.

 

[Romeoh1]

By far the funniest part of this election is that the media and cookers were complaining about ALP and Andrews' corruption, and Adem Somyurek, kicked out of the ALP for being too corrupt even for them, is on the verge of winning an upper house seat.

And it's the support of the cookers who are going to get him there. The cookers have been taken for an absolute ride this state election. Donating money and flying in from all over the country to volunteer for Ian Cook. Complaining about corruption then electing an admittedly corrupt person. Everything the cookers argued against is now coming true because they listened to the media which was egging them on.

Hopefully Patten can hold out Somyurek, but it's on a real knife's edge with postals and Below The Line to come. Got a feeling postals will favour Somyurek but that Below the Line voting will save Patten. Surely the cookers in Northern Melbourne aren't stupid enough to vote for the ALP's most corrupt person to make a point to the ALP about corruption, are they? Are they?

Very good question. Comon patten.

 

[Romeoh1]

I take this as a compliment coming from a twit that perennially downplays the damage to young people's health (both mentally and physically) the unnecessarily prolonged lockdowns had on them. All just to save Disaster's hide from being an incompetent numptie in keeping covid from leaking out of quarantine, something that average politicians in other states had no major issues in accomplishing. Disaster had no qualms in hiring cheap labour to oversea this so called 'dangerous virus' all the while he was condescendingly scaring his constituents by saying that no pair of shoes or one golf round was worth a life to justify these over the top measures in order to cover his own arse. You're an arseclown for fawning and constantly coming to the defense of such a useless piece of dog turd.

One of the problems of the Dan-haters is that you significantly overestimate your grievances, and significantly underestimate his achievements. Fortunately most Victorians have a lot more sense than a bunch of dopey cookers. That’s why he romped it in. So, see you in 4 years old bean.

 

[Blue1980]

There's nothing inaccurate about the number of people that are indirectly/directly on the Victorian Government payroll in some way or another, all that information is out there as a matter of public record. And it's not surprising that those benefitting from it would have no interest in changing government and possibly putting that gravy train at risk. Guy did say he wanted to cancel infrastructure projects in favour of cheap transport, you can just imagine how well that went down with the the average traide who is employed in that industry. Let's face it Andrews 'popularity' has little to do with his personality or supposed woke 'values' but everything to do with how he has positively impacted the bottom line of many Melburnians pockets and he was won their support and vote because of it.

Cancelling infrastructure projects to do cheap transport was just ****ing stupid.

Aren’t they pretending to be fiscally responsible, or is it just culture wars and conspiracy theories now?

 

[Brad Goodman]

I take this as a compliment coming from a twit that perennially downplays the damage to young people's health (both mentally and physically) the unnecessarily prolonged lockdowns had on them. All just to save Disaster's hide from being an incompetent numptie in keeping covid from leaking out of quarantine, something that average politicians in other states had no major issues in accomplishing. Disaster had no qualms in hiring cheap labour to oversea this so called 'dangerous virus' all the while he was condescendingly scaring his constituents by saying that no pair of shoes or one golf round was worth a life to justify these over the top measures in order to cover his own arse. You're an arseclown for fawning and constantly coming to the defense of such a useless piece of dog turd.

Righto

 

[Rotayjay]

people are ******* idiots

you'd be surprised how many lose their vote just because they only tick/number one box, or they refuse to number the parties they hate

"******* awesome mate, show Dictator Dan how much you hate him by successfully NOT voting against his party"

Civics really needs to be a prominent part of the curriculum. You can't have a proper democracy if people compelled to vote don't know how their democracy works.

 

[peetoo]

Civics really needs to be a prominent part of the curriculum. You can't have a proper democracy if people compelled to vote don't know how their democracy works.

Pollies would want strutineers checking those cultural marxist teachers doing vote class biassed

 

[Twoslabs]

5 votes diff in Pakky 17956 ALP Vs 17961 Lib.

Expect it to go to Libs as the road resurfacing started too late to election day

 

[Chadwiko]

There are a lot of ignorant assumptions (no surprises there it's what left leaners excel at)

The sheer ****ing irony...

 

[peetoo]

Yep some people should elaborate on the ‘leaners’ tag, then explain how the description is not Morrison and his cronies to a T

 

[Crankyhawk]

I saw Chip did a version of an explainer last night on twitter.

https://twitter.com/Melbchief

Not sure why journalists do this, do they honestly think people are going to read it and say 'geez maybe i was wrong in my opinion.'

If you are biased, dont get annoyed when people say you arent impartial. You are serving a conservative role at the newspaper, dont act like you are 50:50.

getting eviscerated by the comments

 

[Magruder]

I know! I had a heroin addiction for 6 years. Benign on the body and mind but not the bank balance

Have seen many lives ruined by addiction.

go well with your recovery and all strength to you.

 

[Magruder]

Yep some people should elaborate on the ‘leaners’ tag, then explain how the description is not Morrison and his cronies to a T

it sits at the intersection of entitlement and projection.

 

[Magruder]

Believe or not I've heard/read this pearl of wisdom far more often from so-called 'progressives', according to them voters with conservative values are far too stupid and uneducated too realise they're voting against their best interest (voting for their enemy, conservative parties). There are a lot of ignorant assumptions (no surprises there it's what left leaners excel at) being made by 'progressives' from why people vote the way they do and patronizingly thinking that they don't know what they're doing. The idea is that there needs to be some sort of threshold reached to be given the privilege to vote so that potential voters can prove they can be trusted to vote in the correct 'logical' (meaning left leaning parties) manner and stop them from hurting themselves apparently.

Whereas I'm coming from the angle that some voters can't (and/or won't) see the bigger picture and vote entirely for their selfish immediate (usually financial) self interest not taking into consideration what the consequences on others and younger generations those decisions will have in years to come.

This applies to both parties, Labor in the form of buying voters with an ever ballooning public service and infrastructure projects that will saddle future tax payers for who know how long. And the Liberals in the form of screwing a large portion of voters born from the 80s onwards from being able to purchase and own a roof over their heads, it isn't restricted to just one political party both are guilty of it.

Although I think Liberals are by far the biggest culprits in pandering to baby boomers for far too long and a strategy they seriously needed to rethink a decade ago as the boomer demographic is gradually dying out and being promptly replaced by the now majority Gen Y and Z.

It’s not new. Anyone that’s read or studied the classics, particularly Socrates knows this. It’s also part way of the basis of the electoral college system in the US

I agree largely with Sir_Loin

but I also contend that the arc of history, post WW2, is largely progressive even if sporadically punctuated by intense resistance by entrenched interests.

 

[CrazyJoeFevola]

Have seen many lives ruined by addiction.

go well with your recovery and all strength to you.

Thanks mate. 8 months clean on monthly buprenorphine depot injections. Really really good set up. Just pay 55 bucks to see the quack once a month and the medication is free. Sure beats sitting in a methadone line each day. Certainly beats pretty much having a second full time job as I describe active addiction, in terms of the amount of time you spend scrimping and trying to get cash and then scoring, dealers saying they are 10 minutes way when they're hours off..lol.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Believe or not I've heard/read this pearl of wisdom far more often from so-called 'progressives', according to them voters with conservative values are far too stupid and uneducated too realise they're voting against their best interest (voting for their enemy, conservative parties). There are a lot of ignorant assumptions (no surprises there it's what left leaners excel at) being made by 'progressives' from why people vote the way they do and patronizingly thinking that they don't know what they're doing. The idea is that there needs to be some sort of threshold reached to be given the privilege to vote so that potential voters can prove they can be trusted to vote in the correct 'logical' (meaning left leaning parties) manner and stop them from hurting themselves apparently.

Whereas I'm coming from the angle that some voters can't (and/or won't) see the bigger picture and vote entirely for their selfish immediate (usually financial) self interest not taking into consideration what the consequences on others and younger generations those decisions will have in years to come.

This applies to both parties, Labor in the form of buying voters with an ever ballooning public service and infrastructure projects that will saddle future tax payers for who know how long. And the Liberals in the form of screwing a large portion of voters born from the 80s onwards from being able to purchase and own a roof over their heads, it isn't restricted to just one political party both are guilty of it.

Although I think Liberals are by far the biggest culprits in pandering to baby boomers for far too long and a strategy they seriously needed to rethink a decade ago as the boomer demographic is gradually dying out and being promptly replaced by the now majority Gen Y and Z.

I think you'll probably find that when the younger generation get older they will vote for their selfish immediate interests.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

This is f**king hillarious.

Sky “News” totally full of right wingers sooking the Liberals aren’t right wing enough: