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That rule is gone I believe
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I doubt the 225 points is worth the uncertainty
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I doubt they will get pick 25 for Chol and Burgess combined
North could offer them a deal, but realistically won't give up pick 15 as it's too close to pick 11. They are left with 21, 44 and 56 which combined is barely a points upgrade on 11. Offering one of their 2024 priority picks on top would be overs and not really give Gold Coast the boost this year they need
I actually think we are one of the better placed clubs to offer a points increase for Gold Coast this year if they need it. The picks we have are far enough away from 11 to make it worth an upgrade, and we have multiple high value 2nd rounders.
Yes, fair point. Looks like it went in 2020.
They are still still 1,265 short of what they need. We're in a good spot to trade in.
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I imagine Reid is trying to get future picks out of Melbourne and GWS for McAdam and Himmelberg respectively. Will then give us some ammunition to package our picks to GCS with a future pick as well.
I also imagine Melbourne are resisting strongly as they too want to use a future pick to package up to GCS to get pick 10
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I honestly think, if they got pick one and a guaranteed Reid, they would have gotten band 2.
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They have four Academy players, not three.
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I think it's back, hence having to trade during the draft if you want to turn a couple of picks into many.
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I think Melbourne and North Melbourne are both in better spots for pick 8 and 11 than us.
Do we want pick 11 for 20, 23 and 26? Or do we want to do a deal where Melbourne get 11 and we get Petty for less draft capital?
Wilson, Petty and a ruck, or Wilson and Murphy/ Leake?
Charlie Edwards, a 2nd round pick likely and has a heap of talent. I'd like to see us gamble on him.
190cm midfielder/defender, plays a little like Callaghan from GWS or like Brodie Smith when he plays in defence.
190cm midfielder/defender, plays a little like Callaghan from GWS or like Brodie Smith when he plays in defence.
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20, 23 and 26 is worth pick 3.
20 and 26 is worth pick 8.
I be prepared to do 20 and 26, which would give GCS a 300+ point surplus from the trade.
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Sounds like a generational type of player. West Coast is not the worst place on earth to go. Not too many good players leave.
Looking at where we are going to end up pick wise (hopefully 10 + 11 ) - assuming no trade for Petty the below 4 would be great result:
Wilson
Tholstrup
De Mattia
Moir
Wilson
Tholstrup
De Mattia
Moir
Most likely right, just my observation on the way he moves. I've mainly had my eyes on the Sanfl kids this year more so Sturt.
I guess we won't be picking him, then...Billy Wilson
Defender
182cm, 71kg
The 2023 riser for Vic Country, a halfback with excellent acceleration and accumulation, Wilson rebounds, gets high, and sets up forward thrusts.
He creates overlap, is generally clean, clears the backline well, his polish is reasonable, and his defensive skillset is developing. Is averaging a team-high 5.6 rebound 50s for the Rays as well as 20 disposals.
Has a good athletic base and well-built body, his form coming off the back of a strong preseason and 15 games of Talent League exposure in 2022.
Billy Wilson in action for the Dandenong Stingrays
Top 40 draft players article - abridged version of top 30 I have heavily edited below - would cover most of our picks if we take 3 or 4 to the draft (unlikely I know)
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 38: An athletic smaller defender who is very good one-on-one and has the speed and agility to go with some of the best small forwards around. Can also bring some run and bounce off halfback and his character and leadership is highly rated.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 34: Tied to West Coast’s Next Generation Academy, but another player who is not looking like getting past pick 40 anymore. Had a strong finish to the season, in the forward half for Subiaco’s Colts, including kicking 10 goals across two finals.
DB – 24: Collard has freakish ability as a small forward, with his purple patch to finish the season featuring a litany of dazzling goals: selling candy, snaps from the boundary, the lot. The Eagles academy talent would be a steal for the Eagles if he slips past pick 40.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 22: A former junior cricket star who has quickly risen within since joining the AFL pathway programs in 2021. Co-captained the Knights this year and could be anything given his quality tap-work, size and sound fundamentals.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 24: A huge ruckman who has impressive craft, is a competitor, a strong overhead mark and is quite mobile for his size. Still has to put some weight on his frame, but is an exciting prospect from the west.
DB – 33: Would have liked to see more at national level from Edwards, but he is probably the next ruckman in the pool behind Ethan Read.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 27: Has been another big bolter in the back half of the year. Started the season at halfback for Sandringham Dragons but went into the midfield in the second half of the year and starred. Is a real leg-driver and drives the ball forward by foot.
DB – 29: Shot up draft boards to finish the year after moving into the midfield for the Sandringham Dragons. His speed from congestion and height gives him serious potential in a draft class lacking midfield depth, and he can also play off halfback.
Stats and full bio:2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 21: His older brother Zach is a key forward at Essendon, but Archer plays at the other end. His weapon is his marking ability up forward, but he also developed his ruck craft nicely in the back end of the year with Gippsland.
DB – 34: A tough one to place. Is strong overhead and showed he can perform strongly as a forward and a second ruckman, but was a touch inconsistent throughout the year.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 31: An intriguing prospect. I’m a big fan – as some clubs are – but others say he is too slow. He was arguably Geelong’s best player in one of his VFL games for the Cats this year though, is tough, clean and a decent kick. As ready-made a prospect as you will find.
DB – 23: One of the most polarising players in the draft class. Has worked tirelessly to address concerns over his speed and his high-end performances can’t be ignored in my view, averaging 28.8 disposals and 160 SuperCoach ranking points per game for the Rebels. Showed he can play as contested ball-winner or off halfback with his kicking skills, and can impact from the get-go with his ready-made frame.
Midfielder George Stevens knows how to find the footy. Picture: Getty Images
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 29: The younger brother of Hawthorn’s Changkuoth Jiath was a big bolter in the second half of the season. He’s tied to Hawthorn’s Next Generation Academy, but it’s hard to see the Hawks landing him through that avenue now given the athletic defender looks certain to be a top-40 pick.
DB – 25: Ahead of his brother, Changkuoth, at the same age – and we saw how steep his development was from the point he was drafted. A serious bolter after eye-catching finish to the season where his intercepting, turn of step and composure shone through. Would be a surprise to see the Hawks nab him outside the 40.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 25:Was suspended for the first 10 weeks of the season for a “dumb” mistake, but made a massive impact down back in the second half of the year. Also featured forward and kicked two goals in one game for the Allies at the national championships and is a booming kick of the footy.
DB – 27: What an incredible turnaround it’s been after a 10-week club imposed suspension for a drinking related indiscretion. It’s rare that a player standing 194cm can kick goals from 55m off a couple of steps and moves as well as he can.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 20: A rebounding left-foot halfback who didn’t put a foot wrong this season. Won two flags with his school team at Haileybury and the Sandringham Dragons. A strong runner who loves to break the lines.
DB – 22: Reliable halfback who constantly provides run from behind and has a trusty left boot. Had a consistent season at all levels this year and has great composure.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 23: Clubs tend to like dual-sport athletes and DeMattia has represented Victoria in cricket. He’s got explosive speed, serious agility and clean hands. Can be deployed across a range of positions.
DB – 17: AFL clubs would be relieved he chose footy over his glittering cricket career. Screams future captain and his speed and footskills will allow clubs to deploy him all over the ground, impressing in a variety of different roles this year.
Harry DeMattia is quick and agile. Picture: Getty Images
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 19: Missed a chunk of the season with a foot injury but returned for a semi-final late in the season and had an impact. The Hawthorn father-son prospect reads the ball well, is athletic and can play tall or small.
DB – 19: Reads the play to perfection and uses it just as well by foot. Seven intercept marks on SANFL Reserves debut for Central Districts underlined the potential of the Hawks father-son.
CC – 15: A nice left-footed rebounding defender who captained Western Australia at the national championships. His speed and booming and accurate kick are features of his game.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 18: A medium-sized rebounding defender with strong intercepting abilities, who makes good decisions when he wins the ball back. But also had a serious impact when he went forward late in the year for the Devils.
DB – 16: The Tasmanian swingman can turn a game at either end with his vice-like hands, massive leap and speed off the mark. Impressed at national level for the Allies down back and kicked 12 goals in the space of three games for Devils late in the year.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 16: Impressed in the 2km time trial and agility tests at the draft combine, showing he has the ability to progress from a half-forward to dynamic midfielder in time. Brings a fierce competitive edge and played some regular senior football in the WAFL this year.
DB – 18: Has plenty of swagger and X-Factor but he also does the hard things, restricting dual Sandover medallist Jye Bolton to 12 SuperCoach ranking points in a tagging job in the WAFL. Donning a bright gold pair of visors atop his shaggy mullet at the combine, Tholstrup is sure to be a fan favourite wherever he goes.
CC – 17: A wingman with pace to burn, it was no surprise to see him place third in the 20m sprint at the draft combine. Works hard and holds his lanes well as a wingman, but also spent some time as an inside midfielder at the national championships.
DB – 14: Has risen in estimations as the year has gone on as an athletically gifted wingman who is creative and efficient with ball in hand. Glides across the ground and then hits his opponents with a lightning burst of speed.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 13: An elite runner for a 200cm key forward, the Western Bulldogs father-son prospect prides himself on working hard up the ground and being a real presence in the air. Grew up idolising Marcus Bontempelli and Aaron Naughton and could soon join them at the Kennel.
DB – 15: Another who will need a few pre-seasons to build size but his leap, strong contested marking and elite endurance is an exciting combination. Where the Bulldogs father-son fits in alongside Aaron Naughton and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is the big question.
Jordan Croft has great athleticism. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
CC – 14: The key defender has emerged out of nowhere to firm as a first-round prospect this year. Is competitive and rose to some big challenges in the under-18 national championships to win Vic Metro’s MVP award.
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CC – 12: A wingman who can seriously run, Wilson finished second a close second in the 2km time trial at the draft combine. Is also a thumping kick and regularly pushed forward to hit the scoreboard this season.
DB – 12: A running machine with a massive leap, Wilson finished first in the running vertical jump and second in the 2km time trial. Can slot in on a wing or off a half-forward flank, where he can work up the ground and be seriously dangerous around goal.
Darcy Wilson is a running machine. Picture: Michael Klein
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 11: A ball-winning midfielder who has incredibly clean hands and has drawn comparisons to Touk Miller. Is dynamic, has good speed and had a brilliant season before suffering a back injury at the tail end of the year.
DB – 11: At 170cm, you need to have some elite traits and he has got those in spades with his speed, agility, and super clean hands below his knees. Dominated in both AFL Academy games against senior opposition, suggesting he can crack into the Suns forward line next year. And he should be used through the midfield in the future.
Jake Rogers won the AFL Academy’s best on ground medal against Carlton’s VFL side. Picture: Getty Images
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 10: Didn’t quite have the season he wanted to, but showed enough to suggest he is going to be a very good player. Can take a strong mark overhead, is a booming kick and kicks goals as a forward. Also went into the midfield at times this season and looked good.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 9: Plenty of clubs looking for key defenders and O’Sullivan is the best available in this draft. Brings a high workrate and can beat opposition key forwards in the air and at ground level.
DB – 9: O’Sullivan can play just about anywhere on the ground but looks most settled in defence, where he can clunk intercept marks and cover the ground with his elite endurance base – running the eighth best time in the 2km time trial. Scary to think the 198cm talent was used in the midfield at times this year.
Connor O'Sullivan has a strong engine. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 8: Solidified his standing as an elite runner at the draft combine, when he finished third in the 2km time trial. Played mostly as a ruck this year, but has been compared to the versatile Mark Blicavs and could end up playing anywhere for the Suns.
DB – 7: See a lot of similarities to Tim English – and he could get to his level sooner, given he ran a staggering 5:56min 2ker. The All-Australian ruckman’s numbers were almost as ridiculous, averaging 20-plus disposals at the national championships.
Ethan Read could play anywhere. Picture: Michael Klein
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 6: An old-fashioned centreman who pulls up the socks and gets to work around the contest. His national championships campaign with the Allies was as good as it gets, on the way to earning Larke Medal honours.
DB – 8: You can bank 200+ games with Sanders: a prolific ball-winner who is just so clean and agile at the coalface. Showed he can have an impact with his possessesions on his way to winning the Larke Medal at the national champs, but I feel the likes of Duursma and Watson are harder to find.
Ryley Sanders wins plenty of the footy. Picture: Getty Images
Stats and full bio:2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 7: The latest measurements have Watson at just 169.5cm. However, that won’t put clubs off using an early selection on the highly-talented small forward. He is quick, agile, brings great pressure and can kick goals from all angles.
DB – 6: Forget his height, Watson is a genuine matchwinner in the forward with his freakish goal sense, speed and leap. Put his team on his back multiple times throughout the year with bags of goals. Feel he could also be thrown into defence like Harry Sheezel and Nick Daicos and be a speedy half back in the mould of Jack Sinclair.
Nick Watson has plenty of tricks. Picture: Chris Hyde/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 5: Looks likely to begin his AFL career as a key defender, where he starred as a bottom-age player last year. However, the West Australian could well develop into a classy big-bodied midfielder-forward in the years to come.
DB – 4: Spent time in the midfield this year but there is no doubt his best position is behind the ball, where he can soar for intercept marks and spot up targets with his pinpoint kicking and silky sidestep. The best key defender in the crop.
Daniel Curtin has great skills for a big man. Picture: Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 3: One of the most exciting players in this year’s draft class. A forward who can also have a run through the midfield, he’s athletically gifted and has shown he can have a huge scoreboard impact forward of centre.
DB – 5: His four goals and six score assists against Vic Metro epitomised his game-breaking forward half impact. Xavier Duursma’s brother plays more like Connor Rozee, but can he become a full-time midfielder in the future? If so, look out.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 4: The best pure midfielder in this year’s pool. The left-footer oozes class, has good breakaway speed and has consistently found the footy at all levels this season. Tasmania’s finest.
DB – 3: If you haven’t seen his goal from the paint against Vic Country at the national championships, do yourself a favour. The smooth-mover has elite footskills, wins possessions at will and a burst of speed. Not much more you can ask for in a midfielder.
Colby McKercher ranks third in our consensus rankings. Picture: Graham Denholm/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 2: Could prove to be the best ready-made key forward out of the draft in years. Gives off Charlie Curnow vibes with the way he plays and is a fierce competitor who is as good defensively as he is with ball in hand. The Suns have a beauty on their hands.
DB – 2: A key forward with the strength and overhead marking of Charlie Curnow with the defensive pressure of Charlie Cameron? Going to give defenders nightmares in the years to come and should have an instant impact for the Suns.
Jed Walter is set to impact from the get-go at the Suns. Picture: Daniel Pockett/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
CC – 1: Clubs are clamouring for the No. 1 pick in this year’s draft and there’s good reason why. Reid is a freak, who showed this season that he is ready to make an instant impact at AFL level.
DB – 1: While picks 2 and 3 might be a bit much, I’d be throwing the kitchen sink at West Coast to get Reid. Made kids and grown men look silly at junior and VFL level over the past two years. A generational talent with plenty of similarities to Dustin Martin — including his trademark fend-off — as a midfielder/forward with maximum impact.
30. LUAMON LUAL
GWV Rebels/VIC, Defender, 181cm, 79kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 38: An athletic smaller defender who is very good one-on-one and has the speed and agility to go with some of the best small forwards around. Can also bring some run and bounce off halfback and his character and leadership is highly rated.
29. LANCE COLLARD
Subiaco/WA/West Coast NGA, Forward, 180cm, 65kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 34: Tied to West Coast’s Next Generation Academy, but another player who is not looking like getting past pick 40 anymore. Had a strong finish to the season, in the forward half for Subiaco’s Colts, including kicking 10 goals across two finals.
DB – 24: Collard has freakish ability as a small forward, with his purple patch to finish the season featuring a litany of dazzling goals: selling candy, snaps from the boundary, the lot. The Eagles academy talent would be a steal for the Eagles if he slips past pick 40.
28. WILL GREEN
Northern Knights/VIC, Ruck, 204cm, 93kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 22: A former junior cricket star who has quickly risen within since joining the AFL pathway programs in 2021. Co-captained the Knights this year and could be anything given his quality tap-work, size and sound fundamentals.
27. MITCHELL EDWARDS
Peel Thunder/WA, Ruck, 206cm, 89kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 24: A huge ruckman who has impressive craft, is a competitor, a strong overhead mark and is quite mobile for his size. Still has to put some weight on his frame, but is an exciting prospect from the west.
DB – 33: Would have liked to see more at national level from Edwards, but he is probably the next ruckman in the pool behind Ethan Read.
26. CHARLIE EDWARDS
Sandringham Dragons/VIC, Midfielder, 191cm, 85kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 27: Has been another big bolter in the back half of the year. Started the season at halfback for Sandringham Dragons but went into the midfield in the second half of the year and starred. Is a real leg-driver and drives the ball forward by foot.
DB – 29: Shot up draft boards to finish the year after moving into the midfield for the Sandringham Dragons. His speed from congestion and height gives him serious potential in a draft class lacking midfield depth, and he can also play off halfback.
25. ARCHER REID
Gippsland Power/VIC, Forward/ruck, 203cm, 94kgStats and full bio:2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 21: His older brother Zach is a key forward at Essendon, but Archer plays at the other end. His weapon is his marking ability up forward, but he also developed his ruck craft nicely in the back end of the year with Gippsland.
DB – 34: A tough one to place. Is strong overhead and showed he can perform strongly as a forward and a second ruckman, but was a touch inconsistent throughout the year.
24. GEORGE STEVENS
GWV Rebels/VIC, Midfielder, 189cm, 101kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 31: An intriguing prospect. I’m a big fan – as some clubs are – but others say he is too slow. He was arguably Geelong’s best player in one of his VFL games for the Cats this year though, is tough, clean and a decent kick. As ready-made a prospect as you will find.
DB – 23: One of the most polarising players in the draft class. Has worked tirelessly to address concerns over his speed and his high-end performances can’t be ignored in my view, averaging 28.8 disposals and 160 SuperCoach ranking points per game for the Rebels. Showed he can play as contested ball-winner or off halfback with his kicking skills, and can impact from the get-go with his ready-made frame.
Midfielder George Stevens knows how to find the footy. Picture: Getty Images
23. TEW JIATH
Gippsland Power/VIC/Hawthorn NGA, Defender, 188cm, 72kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 29: The younger brother of Hawthorn’s Changkuoth Jiath was a big bolter in the second half of the season. He’s tied to Hawthorn’s Next Generation Academy, but it’s hard to see the Hawks landing him through that avenue now given the athletic defender looks certain to be a top-40 pick.
DB – 25: Ahead of his brother, Changkuoth, at the same age – and we saw how steep his development was from the point he was drafted. A serious bolter after eye-catching finish to the season where his intercepting, turn of step and composure shone through. Would be a surprise to see the Hawks nab him outside the 40.
22. ARIE SCHOENMAKER
Tasmania Devils/TAS, Defender, 194cm, 91kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 25:Was suspended for the first 10 weeks of the season for a “dumb” mistake, but made a massive impact down back in the second half of the year. Also featured forward and kicked two goals in one game for the Allies at the national championships and is a booming kick of the footy.
DB – 27: What an incredible turnaround it’s been after a 10-week club imposed suspension for a drinking related indiscretion. It’s rare that a player standing 194cm can kick goals from 55m off a couple of steps and moves as well as he can.
21. ARCHIE ROBERTS
Sandringham Dragons/VIC, Defender, 184cm, 79kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 20: A rebounding left-foot halfback who didn’t put a foot wrong this season. Won two flags with his school team at Haileybury and the Sandringham Dragons. A strong runner who loves to break the lines.
DB – 22: Reliable halfback who constantly provides run from behind and has a trusty left boot. Had a consistent season at all levels this year and has great composure.
20. HARRY DeMATTIA
Dandenong Stingrays/VIC, Midfielder/Forward, 185cm, 78kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 23: Clubs tend to like dual-sport athletes and DeMattia has represented Victoria in cricket. He’s got explosive speed, serious agility and clean hands. Can be deployed across a range of positions.
DB – 17: AFL clubs would be relieved he chose footy over his glittering cricket career. Screams future captain and his speed and footskills will allow clubs to deploy him all over the ground, impressing in a variety of different roles this year.
Harry DeMattia is quick and agile. Picture: Getty Images
19. WILL MCCABE
Central Districts/SA/Hawthorn father-son, Defender, 197cm, 86kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 19: Missed a chunk of the season with a foot injury but returned for a semi-final late in the season and had an impact. The Hawthorn father-son prospect reads the ball well, is athletic and can play tall or small.
DB – 19: Reads the play to perfection and uses it just as well by foot. Seven intercept marks on SANFL Reserves debut for Central Districts underlined the potential of the Hawks father-son.
18. RILEY HARDEMAN
Swan Districts/WA, Defender, 185cm, 75kgCC – 15: A nice left-footed rebounding defender who captained Western Australia at the national championships. His speed and booming and accurate kick are features of his game.
17. JAMES LEAKE
Tasmania Devils/TAS, Defender, 188cmStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 18: A medium-sized rebounding defender with strong intercepting abilities, who makes good decisions when he wins the ball back. But also had a serious impact when he went forward late in the year for the Devils.
DB – 16: The Tasmanian swingman can turn a game at either end with his vice-like hands, massive leap and speed off the mark. Impressed at national level for the Allies down back and kicked 12 goals in the space of three games for Devils late in the year.
16. KOLTYN THOLSTRUP
Subiaco/WA, Forward, 186cm, 86kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 16: Impressed in the 2km time trial and agility tests at the draft combine, showing he has the ability to progress from a half-forward to dynamic midfielder in time. Brings a fierce competitive edge and played some regular senior football in the WAFL this year.
DB – 18: Has plenty of swagger and X-Factor but he also does the hard things, restricting dual Sandover medallist Jye Bolton to 12 SuperCoach ranking points in a tagging job in the WAFL. Donning a bright gold pair of visors atop his shaggy mullet at the combine, Tholstrup is sure to be a fan favourite wherever he goes.
15. CALEB WINDSOR
Eastern Ranges/VIC, Wing, 184cmCC – 17: A wingman with pace to burn, it was no surprise to see him place third in the 20m sprint at the draft combine. Works hard and holds his lanes well as a wingman, but also spent some time as an inside midfielder at the national championships.
DB – 14: Has risen in estimations as the year has gone on as an athletically gifted wingman who is creative and efficient with ball in hand. Glides across the ground and then hits his opponents with a lightning burst of speed.
14. JORDAN CROFT
Calder Cannons/VIC/Bulldogs father-son, Forward, 200cm, 81kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 13: An elite runner for a 200cm key forward, the Western Bulldogs father-son prospect prides himself on working hard up the ground and being a real presence in the air. Grew up idolising Marcus Bontempelli and Aaron Naughton and could soon join them at the Kennel.
DB – 15: Another who will need a few pre-seasons to build size but his leap, strong contested marking and elite endurance is an exciting combination. Where the Bulldogs father-son fits in alongside Aaron Naughton and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan is the big question.
Jordan Croft has great athleticism. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
13. OLLIE MURPHY
Sandringham Dragons/VIC, Defender, 200cm, 85kgCC – 14: The key defender has emerged out of nowhere to firm as a first-round prospect this year. Is competitive and rose to some big challenges in the under-18 national championships to win Vic Metro’s MVP award.
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12. DARCY WILSON
Murray Bushrangers/VIC, Wing/forward, 185cm, 74cmCC – 12: A wingman who can seriously run, Wilson finished second a close second in the 2km time trial at the draft combine. Is also a thumping kick and regularly pushed forward to hit the scoreboard this season.
DB – 12: A running machine with a massive leap, Wilson finished first in the running vertical jump and second in the 2km time trial. Can slot in on a wing or off a half-forward flank, where he can work up the ground and be seriously dangerous around goal.
Darcy Wilson is a running machine. Picture: Michael Klein
11. JAKE ROGERS
Gold Coast Suns Academy/QLD, Midfielder/forward, 171cmStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 11: A ball-winning midfielder who has incredibly clean hands and has drawn comparisons to Touk Miller. Is dynamic, has good speed and had a brilliant season before suffering a back injury at the tail end of the year.
DB – 11: At 170cm, you need to have some elite traits and he has got those in spades with his speed, agility, and super clean hands below his knees. Dominated in both AFL Academy games against senior opposition, suggesting he can crack into the Suns forward line next year. And he should be used through the midfield in the future.
Jake Rogers won the AFL Academy’s best on ground medal against Carlton’s VFL side. Picture: Getty Images
10. NATE CADDY
Northern Knights/VIC, Forward, 193cm, 88kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 10: Didn’t quite have the season he wanted to, but showed enough to suggest he is going to be a very good player. Can take a strong mark overhead, is a booming kick and kicks goals as a forward. Also went into the midfield at times this season and looked good.
9. CONNOR O’SULLIVAN
Murray Bushrangers/NSW-ACT, Defender, 198cm, 92kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 9: Plenty of clubs looking for key defenders and O’Sullivan is the best available in this draft. Brings a high workrate and can beat opposition key forwards in the air and at ground level.
DB – 9: O’Sullivan can play just about anywhere on the ground but looks most settled in defence, where he can clunk intercept marks and cover the ground with his elite endurance base – running the eighth best time in the 2km time trial. Scary to think the 198cm talent was used in the midfield at times this year.
Connor O'Sullivan has a strong engine. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
8. ETHAN READ
Gold Coast Suns Academy/QLD, Ruck, 202cm, 92kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 8: Solidified his standing as an elite runner at the draft combine, when he finished third in the 2km time trial. Played mostly as a ruck this year, but has been compared to the versatile Mark Blicavs and could end up playing anywhere for the Suns.
DB – 7: See a lot of similarities to Tim English – and he could get to his level sooner, given he ran a staggering 5:56min 2ker. The All-Australian ruckman’s numbers were almost as ridiculous, averaging 20-plus disposals at the national championships.
Ethan Read could play anywhere. Picture: Michael Klein
7. RYLEY SANDERS
Sandringham Dragons/TAS/Roos NGA, Midfielder, 186cmStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 6: An old-fashioned centreman who pulls up the socks and gets to work around the contest. His national championships campaign with the Allies was as good as it gets, on the way to earning Larke Medal honours.
DB – 8: You can bank 200+ games with Sanders: a prolific ball-winner who is just so clean and agile at the coalface. Showed he can have an impact with his possessesions on his way to winning the Larke Medal at the national champs, but I feel the likes of Duursma and Watson are harder to find.
Ryley Sanders wins plenty of the footy. Picture: Getty Images
6. NICK WATSON
Eastern Ranges/VIC, Forward, 170cm, 68kgStats and full bio:2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 7: The latest measurements have Watson at just 169.5cm. However, that won’t put clubs off using an early selection on the highly-talented small forward. He is quick, agile, brings great pressure and can kick goals from all angles.
DB – 6: Forget his height, Watson is a genuine matchwinner in the forward with his freakish goal sense, speed and leap. Put his team on his back multiple times throughout the year with bags of goals. Feel he could also be thrown into defence like Harry Sheezel and Nick Daicos and be a speedy half back in the mould of Jack Sinclair.
Nick Watson has plenty of tricks. Picture: Chris Hyde/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
5. DANIEL CURTIN
Claremont/WA, Defender/Midfielder, 197cm, 95kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 5: Looks likely to begin his AFL career as a key defender, where he starred as a bottom-age player last year. However, the West Australian could well develop into a classy big-bodied midfielder-forward in the years to come.
DB – 4: Spent time in the midfield this year but there is no doubt his best position is behind the ball, where he can soar for intercept marks and spot up targets with his pinpoint kicking and silky sidestep. The best key defender in the crop.
Daniel Curtin has great skills for a big man. Picture: Paul Kane/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
4. ZANE DUURSMA
Gippsland Power/VIC, Midfielder/Forward, 189cm, 79kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 3: One of the most exciting players in this year’s draft class. A forward who can also have a run through the midfield, he’s athletically gifted and has shown he can have a huge scoreboard impact forward of centre.
DB – 5: His four goals and six score assists against Vic Metro epitomised his game-breaking forward half impact. Xavier Duursma’s brother plays more like Connor Rozee, but can he become a full-time midfielder in the future? If so, look out.
3. COLBY MCKERCHER
Tasmania Devils/TAS, Midfielder, 180cm, 76kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 4: The best pure midfielder in this year’s pool. The left-footer oozes class, has good breakaway speed and has consistently found the footy at all levels this season. Tasmania’s finest.
DB – 3: If you haven’t seen his goal from the paint against Vic Country at the national championships, do yourself a favour. The smooth-mover has elite footskills, wins possessions at will and a burst of speed. Not much more you can ask for in a midfielder.
Colby McKercher ranks third in our consensus rankings. Picture: Graham Denholm/AFL Photos via Getty Images
2. JED WALTER
Gold Coast Suns Academy/QLD, Forward, 194cm, 97kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 2: Could prove to be the best ready-made key forward out of the draft in years. Gives off Charlie Curnow vibes with the way he plays and is a fierce competitor who is as good defensively as he is with ball in hand. The Suns have a beauty on their hands.
DB – 2: A key forward with the strength and overhead marking of Charlie Curnow with the defensive pressure of Charlie Cameron? Going to give defenders nightmares in the years to come and should have an instant impact for the Suns.
Jed Walter is set to impact from the get-go at the Suns. Picture: Daniel Pockett/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
1. HARLEY REID
Bendigo Pioneers/VIC, Midfielder/Forward, 187cm, 85kg
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft DossierCC – 1: Clubs are clamouring for the No. 1 pick in this year’s draft and there’s good reason why. Reid is a freak, who showed this season that he is ready to make an instant impact at AFL level.
DB – 1: While picks 2 and 3 might be a bit much, I’d be throwing the kitchen sink at West Coast to get Reid. Made kids and grown men look silly at junior and VFL level over the past two years. A generational talent with plenty of similarities to Dustin Martin — including his trademark fend-off — as a midfielder/forward with maximum impact.
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Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 27: Has been another big bolter in the back half of the year. Started the season at halfback for Sandringham Dragons but went into the midfield in the second half of the year and starred. Is a real leg-driver and drives the ball forward by foot.
DB – 29: Shot up draft boards to finish the year after moving into the midfield for the Sandringham Dragons. His speed from congestion and height gives him serious potential in a draft class lacking midfield depth, and he can also play off halfback.
26. CHARLIE EDWARDS
Sandringham Dragons/VIC, Midfielder, 191cm, 85kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 27: Has been another big bolter in the back half of the year. Started the season at halfback for Sandringham Dragons but went into the midfield in the second half of the year and starred. Is a real leg-driver and drives the ball forward by foot.
DB – 29: Shot up draft boards to finish the year after moving into the midfield for the Sandringham Dragons. His speed from congestion and height gives him serious potential in a draft class lacking midfield depth, and he can also play off halfback.
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Besides Horks aligned Mc Cabe this must be the leanest ever year for SA boys?
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 30: There is not a lot of evidence from this year as to why Moir should be picked up – especially this high. However, clubs will find it hard to ignore the talent from this silky forward who can kick on both feet.
DB – 31: Moir appeared destined to be a top-five pick at the start of the year but has slid significantly after an underwhelming top-age year where his competitiveness has been questioned. But there is no doubting his freakish talent, being able to kick 50m on both sides of his body. Could prove to be a massive steal and a club could do worse than to take a punt on him.
Stats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
Chris Cavanagh’s Ranking – 38: A lively goalkicking forward with plenty of tricks, his best this year was great but he also went missing at times which frustrated some. That said, he kicked five goals across three senior SANFL matches in the back end of the year after booting nine majors from four matches for his state at the national championships.
Dan Batten’s Ranking — Didn’t quite make the cut for me. Certainly has some exciting traits as a small forward but there are question marks over his workrate and consistency.
33. ASHTON MOIR
Glenelg/SA, Forward, 187cm, 85kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
CC – 30: There is not a lot of evidence from this year as to why Moir should be picked up – especially this high. However, clubs will find it hard to ignore the talent from this silky forward who can kick on both feet.
DB – 31: Moir appeared destined to be a top-five pick at the start of the year but has slid significantly after an underwhelming top-age year where his competitiveness has been questioned. But there is no doubting his freakish talent, being able to kick 50m on both sides of his body. Could prove to be a massive steal and a club could do worse than to take a punt on him.
40. JACK DELEAN
South Adelaide/SA, Forward, 182cm, 77kgStats and full bio: 2023 Draft Dossier
Chris Cavanagh’s Ranking – 38: A lively goalkicking forward with plenty of tricks, his best this year was great but he also went missing at times which frustrated some. That said, he kicked five goals across three senior SANFL matches in the back end of the year after booting nine majors from four matches for his state at the national championships.
Dan Batten’s Ranking — Didn’t quite make the cut for me. Certainly has some exciting traits as a small forward but there are question marks over his workrate and consistency.
not sure if someone has posted this already (including myself..)
With the season over, clubs are now weighing up what they need to add to their lists ahead of this month’s trade period and next month’s national draft.
Here is where your club could do with some help — and the players in this year’s draft pool who could provide that.
It’s a very attractive draft hand for the rebuilding Crows, who will, again, bring in top-end talent this off-season. But just how high that top-end talent is remains to be seen. Adelaide has been one of the club’s linked with a trade for Gold Coast’s pick four, but its offer might fall short of the three first-round picks the Bulldogs have put up. Unless something else is put forward, maybe in a deal involving tall Mabior Chol – who the Crows have shown interest in – the desired class, speed and midfield x-factor of Zane Duursma and Colby McKercher will be out of reach. But the picks as they stand are still sure to bolster Matthew Nicks’ developing list. Athletic, strong-marking tall Connor O’Sullivan and Sandringham’s Ollie Murphy would satisfy the need for a key-defender, while the skill of line-breaker Darcy Wilson would suit. After that, the 190cm frame and clean hands of rising defender-turned-midfielder Charlie Edwards might appeal – or could the Crows draft their next No. 1 ruckman in 206cm WA prospect Mitch Edwards? Supremely-talented local Ashton Moir is now likely to get into the 20s, too. Adelaide is also one of the club’s tracking 25-year-old Glenelg defender Toby Pink.
With the season over, clubs are now weighing up what they need to add to their lists ahead of this month’s trade period and next month’s national draft.
Here is where your club could do with some help — and the players in this year’s draft pool who could provide that.
ADELAIDE
Draft Picks before Trade Period: 9, 21, 24, 84It’s a very attractive draft hand for the rebuilding Crows, who will, again, bring in top-end talent this off-season. But just how high that top-end talent is remains to be seen. Adelaide has been one of the club’s linked with a trade for Gold Coast’s pick four, but its offer might fall short of the three first-round picks the Bulldogs have put up. Unless something else is put forward, maybe in a deal involving tall Mabior Chol – who the Crows have shown interest in – the desired class, speed and midfield x-factor of Zane Duursma and Colby McKercher will be out of reach. But the picks as they stand are still sure to bolster Matthew Nicks’ developing list. Athletic, strong-marking tall Connor O’Sullivan and Sandringham’s Ollie Murphy would satisfy the need for a key-defender, while the skill of line-breaker Darcy Wilson would suit. After that, the 190cm frame and clean hands of rising defender-turned-midfielder Charlie Edwards might appeal – or could the Crows draft their next No. 1 ruckman in 206cm WA prospect Mitch Edwards? Supremely-talented local Ashton Moir is now likely to get into the 20s, too. Adelaide is also one of the club’s tracking 25-year-old Glenelg defender Toby Pink.
I can't believe how far Philactides has gone. Like Moir and Edwards have fallen well down the list, Moir nearly off of it, but Philactides has gone from top 10 to well off the list. Reckon someone will rookie him. Wouldn't be sad if it was us.
Thoughts on George Stevens?
Big body inside mid with good skills? Tom Greene type?
I like the sound of Jiath.
Would also like to target two areas of need in genuine small forward with pace and ruck.
Big body inside mid with good skills? Tom Greene type?
I like the sound of Jiath.
Would also like to target two areas of need in genuine small forward with pace and ruck.
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