List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management discussion

[Grasshopper17]

I know that figure is only the 22 …. But dang anyone else think that 26.49 is old ?

Perhaps. But not compared to the two Grand Final teams

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[irel]

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Problem with our academy talls, the strike rate of them working out is low. Look at the history. Other than Andrews and Hipwood it has been a grim list. Even players that were drafted by other clubs i.e Chol whom isn't a world beater

Payne, three talls all playing senior footy is prety good strike rate.

 

[Eagleeyed77]

Payne, three talls all playing senior footy is prety good strike rate.

For your small academy players Cumberland and Keays have done well, reckon Martyn was done hard by too

 

[SpecialBruce]

Payne, three talls all playing senior footy is prety good strike rate.

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Then you have people like Ballenden, Fullarton, Chol, Freeman, Smith, Bourke?, Hammelmann

My point is we can't rely on the academy producing a good tall for us - we still need to look elsewhere and can't rely solely on this guy next year. If there is a chance to get someone this year, we get that someone this year. We don't wait for next year.

 

[Nathan Barley]

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Then you have people like Ballenden, Fullarton, Chol, Freeman, Smith, Bourke?, Hammelmann

My point is we can't rely on the academy producing a good tall for us - we still need to look elsewhere and can't rely solely on this guy next year. If there is a chance to get someone this year, we get that someone this year. We don't wait for next year.

Given the 3 named above will likely play 200 games and only 5% of footballers play 209 games we're going ok

 

[irel]

True

Then you have people like Ballenden, Fullarton, Chol, Freeman, Smith, Bourke?, Hammelmann

My point is we can't rely on the academy producing a good tall for us - we still need to look elsewhere and can't rely solely on this guy next year. If there is a chance to get someone this year, we get that someone this year. We don't wait for next year.

Didn't we just recruit Doedee as a free agent and what makes you so sure that we will not pick tall/s in this year’s draft? Also the club may have assessed that we are happy with the coverage provided by Smith, Lane, Fort, Gunston, Joyce, Doedee all non academy which indicates we have not been relying on the academy producing a good tall for us.

 

[dlanod]

My point is we can't rely on the academy producing a good tall for us - we still need to look elsewhere and can't rely solely on this guy next year. If there is a chance to get someone this year, we get that someone this year. We don't wait for next year.

Not seen anyone in the recent conversation chain suggesting that we just wait on improving list spots until academy kids are picked and then developed though... I think everyone would broadly agree with "yes, improve our list straight away".

 

[JasRulz63]

 

[Section 5]

Last year we brought in:
Dunkley, Gunston, Ashcroft, Fletcher, McKenna, Joyce, Bain & McDowell-White
We lost McStay & Tom Berry and some others that were not needed.

This year we take our medicine draft wise for last years intake.
Hopefully the club can find suitable replacements for anyone moving or delisted.
Doedee looks like he will be a Lion.
Looking forward to see what the club does to replace other players.

 

[Tom14]

One thing the Bulldogs recruitment team has always done well is recruiting mature aged players from the lower leagues.

Will be interesting to see if the list management team gets forced to have a better look at some of these players in the coming years with the concessions Tassie will get in multiple drafts.

Most of those players fill out their reserves of the bottom 6 of their 22, and many dogs fans dislike that bevo is inclined to pick them.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Will Gould delisted by Sydney. I liked him during his draft year and would give him a chance as a backup defender.

 

[Elixuh]

We need to get someone like Buzza or Hammelmann on the list as kpf cover

 

[Elixuh]

Dom was just on trade radio. Said hoping Doedee gets through without a match and will work with Melbourne on a sensible deal for Fullarton.

Otherwise we don’t expect to be very active. This years focus has been on retention.

 

[dlanod]

Most of those players fill out their reserves of the bottom 6 of their 22, and many dogs fans dislike that bevo is inclined to pick them.

They also tend to make a bit of a splash initially and then get delisted in a couple of years. Probably the SC effect in part too.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Adelaide have not matched, they get pick 19. Doedee is ours.

 

[JasRulz63]

 

[Elixuh]

4 year deal. Good for us.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Jesus the free agency compensation looking very generous this year

 

[Tom14]

Jesus the free agency compensation looking very generous this year

Very. Dare I say preparing the ground for McKay being pick 3 compo?

 

[Tom14]

Very. Dare I say preparing the ground for McKay being pick 3 compo?

More seriously, last year of calculating FA compo before the new CBA - clubs perhaps offering more to FA already factoring in CBA years but calculation/formula not there yet.

 

[Warwick]

19 for Doedee?? What the hell. Very generous this year.

 

[dlanod]

Jesus the free agency compensation looking very generous this year

My first thought too - pick 19 seems high, but then the other examples so far (Flynn and Jordan) were also a band higher than expected.

 

[Warwick]

Get Tom to our medical / conditioning team stat.

 

[Nathan Barley]

My first thought too - pick 19 seems high, but then the other examples so far (Flynn and Jordan) were also a band higher than expected.

Ridiculous. Shouldn't get anything for a delisted free agent

 

[Johnny Bananas]

If they hadn't got pick 19, what would the alternative have been? End of second round? If that's the case, they might have matched and asked for our pick 27.