List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management discussion

[BuntonRules]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

I would hope we have learnings about recruiting them past it.

 

[POBT]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

I thought Boak was ok too but I don't think it's the right move for our club. I think we've moved past that type of trade - he'll be 36 next year.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

I would hope we have learnings about recruiting them past it.

But think of the learnings that Boak can teach Neale about

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

No!

 

[Dalions]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

NO!

 

[M Malice]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

NOOOO!

 

[M Malice]

rye has now officially been subjected to a Lions board "shouted down" ignominy.

 

[mpal6]

I don’t understand this argument. Fort looked terrible up forward.

Fort rotating with Big O would be a proper ruck relief + 3rd forward structure for us in my opinion. It frees up Daniher to play pure Key forward leading to wing for outlet kicks. Daniher rucking is still a stop-gap, patchwork type arrangement and against a good ruck combination it'll come undone.

Gunston as third tall had some major selling points when it was sold to us at the start of this season - leadership in forward line, dead eye, another avenue to goal and he'll be a hard match up as third tall. If we take out 6 goals against west coast, it has been sub-par return from him.

I'd rather take a competent ruck as my third tall who can provide a presence and rotate with Big O than try another Gunston replacement.

 

[mpal6]

I think people see his goal accuracy = good forward craft.

I also think we are dragging out Gunston's historic goalkicking feats, his intelligent leading patterns etc to defend his inclusion compared to what he has offered us this year. We haven't backed Fort in as a proper third tall, which would be a better investment for the next 2-3 years.

 

[Nunez]

I also think we are dragging out Gunston's historic goalkicking feats, his intelligent leading patterns etc to defend his inclusion compared to what he has offered us this year. We haven't backed Fort in as a proper third tall, which would be a better investment for the next 2-3 years.

What he offered after the training block was absolutely best 22 level football. Pre training block, I get you but we don't need to pretend his form wasn't good after the training block because we don't think he should be in the prelim team. I don't think he should either, but I am happy to admit that he did lift his game to a good level post training block and deserved his spot.

As it happens though, he got injured and we've found our secret sauce without him. Very hard to justify bringing him back in when it would change a system that worked extremely well in finals week 1.

 

[dlanod]

rye has now officially been subjected to a Lions board "shouted down" ignominy.

Lions board Hall of Fame - I've never seen such a literal case before, as opposed to snowflakes getting upset that not everyone agrees with them.

 

[lionraven]

Rye checking his notifications

 

[mpal6]

What he offered after the training block was absolutely best 22 level football. Pre training block, I get you but we don't need to pretend his form wasn't good after the training block because we don't think he should be in the prelim team. I don't think he should either, but I am happy to admit that he did lift his game to a good level post training block and deserved his spot.

As it happens though, he got injured and we've found our secret sauce without him. Very hard to justify bringing him back in when it would change a system that worked extremely well in finals week 1.

My reference to Gunston is mainly due to the fact that (in my opinion) he's holding the spot that Fort would be given if we decide to put a proper ruck + third tall in place. While Fort is rated as terrible up forward, I can ask him to go to the middle to do ruck and park Big O up forward who is a decent contested mark. I don't get that flexibility with Gunston and I have to push Daniher to ruck which I'm not that excited about.

If goal kicking is the metric we are using to assess Fort's viability as the third tall, then the incumbent isn't setting the world on fire either. Post training block 6.2, 3.0, 0.0, 0.0, 2.0 and 0.1 (Adelaide game injured).

Instead for next year I'd prefer to save Daniher from center bounces and provide a proper ruck relief for Big O using Fort - if Gunston chose to retire.

 

[On the quiet]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

i thought he was good last night also, but no because of his age

 

[Elixuh]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

 

[mpal6]

with ashcroft missing most of next year....

do we consider boak on a 1 year contract? i thought he actually looked very good last night. has not had a great season but struggled to work into it after that incident in the preseason game where he ended up in hospital. might have enough left in the tank to get one more solid year out of him. always seemed like a good character too

I am already nervous about Fagan picking up the phone to un-retire Isaac Smith for one last hurrah.
No to Boak sorry.

 

[Nunez]

My reference to Gunston is mainly due to the fact that (in my opinion) he's holding the spot that Fort would be given if we decide to put a proper ruck + third tall in place. While Fort is rated as terrible up forward, I can ask him to go to the middle to do ruck and park Big O up forward who is a decent contested mark. I don't get that flexibility with Gunston and I have to push Daniher to ruck which I'm not that excited about.

If goal kicking is the metric we are using to assess Fort's viability as the third tall, then the incumbent isn't setting the world on fire either. Post training block 6.2, 3.0, 0.0, 0.0, 2.0 and 0.1 (Adelaide game injured).

Instead for next year I'd prefer to save Daniher from center bounces and provide a proper ruck relief for Big O using Fort - if Gunston chose to retire.

It's not though. It's leading patterns, adhering to gameplans and setting up opportunities - either for yourself or others. Jack was playing that role well when he came back.

 

[M Malice]

My reference to Gunston is mainly due to the fact that (in my opinion) he's holding the spot that Fort would be given if we decide to put a proper ruck + third tall in place. While Fort is rated as terrible up forward, I can ask him to go to the middle to do ruck and park Big O up forward who is a decent contested mark. I don't get that flexibility with Gunston and I have to push Daniher to ruck which I'm not that excited about.

If goal kicking is the metric we are using to assess Fort's viability as the third tall, then the incumbent isn't setting the world on fire either. Post training block 6.2, 3.0, 0.0, 0.0, 2.0 and 0.1 (Adelaide game injured).

Instead for next year I'd prefer to save Daniher from center bounces and provide a proper ruck relief for Big O using Fort - if Gunston chose to retire.

If we are looking for a ruck who can be dangerous up forward and IF we go back to a 3 tall forward set up Mabior Chol would be a lot better option than Fort IMO.

Can not see that happening off the back or a 2 tall forward set up winning us a flag though... Fullarton out Chol in??

 

[Elixuh]

If we are looking for a ruck who can be dangerous up forward and IF we go back to a 3 tall forward set up Mabior Chol would be a lot better option than Fort IMO.

Can not see that happening off the back or a 2 tall forward set up winning us a flag though... Fullarton out Chol in??

Chol is a big downgrade on gunners

 

[briztoon]

Chol is a big downgrade on gunners

So is the current Gunston.

 

[blueiris]

So is the current Gunston.

To be fair he was just about to hit form and did he’s knee

 

[Elixuh]

So is the current Gunston.

Bad take brizzy, post training block gunston is easily best 22. Stick to draft analysis and I’ll stick to gunners analysis

 

[BRAB]

So is the current Gunston.

 

[M Malice]

Gunners definitely would have been handy against Werribee yesterday, I give you that.

 

[briztoon]

Bad take brizzy, post training block gunston is easily best 22. Stick to draft analysis and I’ll stick to gunners analysis

That "form" lasted two games. Gunners is .