Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[Strapping Young Lad]

No he’s not

He most certainly is.

 

[burger09]

He most certainly is.

That's just sad.

 

[PenAndPaper]

He most certainly is.

Is that the same Ratugolea that when played as a forward averaged less marks and scores than Kosi?
The love affair with Ratugolea, particularly as a forward is legitimately baffling.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Before today's game, hawks posters calling every trade target a spud. After today's game, hawks list no good, really need trades..

Those thinking McKay, Gresham or esava won't help us structurally are kidding.

Esava is a spud. Especially as a forward.

McKay is decent.

Gresham will certainly help.

If you're going to make sweeping generalisations on behalf of most of the poster base then at least make it accurate.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Even if Esava is slightly better than Kosi that means absolutely nothing. Is a firm turd sandwich slightly better than a diahorrea sandwich? Yes. But both are still sh*t.

 

[ScottMaginness]

Before today's game, hawks posters calling every trade target a spud. After today's game, hawks list no good, really need trades..

Those thinking McKay, Gresham or esava won't help us structurally are kidding.

If we can land those 3, that should at least solve our problem with a lack of scapegoats if Kosi and Frost depart.

 

[Hawked Wings]

Forget about today lads and ladettes, the pups were more worried about Vegas on Monday. It’s the summer of RoughandLove
Go you hawks

 

[Burtman]

Esava kicked 35 goals in his 55 games playing as a forward ruck in 2018 to 2021, he’s not the answer forward. Would rather get games into ramsden or Ryan than waste money, draft capital and time on a bloke who’s never been a good footballer

 

[Sixpence]

And the Dogs will want 2 firsts for Smith

Doesn't mean they'll get it. Prices are negotiable.

 

[The hands of stone]

My favourite part of the year- waiting (aggressively) for ITK posters to post any thing that sounds vaguely like it will get my hopes up.

If anyone has any vaguely credible information further linking us to King or Smith I'll be stoked
If anyone has anything on us gaining more first round draft collateral I'll be ecstatic.
What a time to be alive.

This should do the trick . Heard North are trading Damien Barrett to * for Mark Robinson as media duffle coat wearers . Future 4ths then being exchanged , with * also sending their washing machine/dryer to North as the steak knives .

In less interesting news we have slight progression on a salary dump/pick with GWS ......still a way to go though

 

[The hands of stone]

Doesn't mean they'll get it. Prices are negotiable.

I know but thats what they will want . Can get him easier end of next season

 

[Sixpence]

I know but thats what they will want . Can get him easier end of next season

How would we get him easier next season? He's probably at his lowest value right now.

 

[The hands of stone]

How would we get him easier next season? He's probably at his lowest value right now.

Out of contract isnt he ?

 

[Sixpence]

Out of contract isnt he ?

Not sure, but does that really make any difference in trades? People always mention it, but players still get traded based on their worth and not contract status.

 

[The Gotham Penguin]

Hardwick is not letting go of King.

I don’t understand where all this chat is coming from.

He will see him as his future power forward who helps him win flags.

King won’t be at the Hawks as much as we would love him.

At the end of 2024 how is Hardwick going to stop him?

You reckon the shite served up today in Hobart is going to get BK rushing to sign an extension or ringing his agent to get the f*ck out of GC?

And Flanders? The guy who already has had 3 meetings with Vic clubs - he's going to stay for 4 more years?

I'll be quite honest - why on earth would any player who wants on-field success stay.

We ain't ever won more than 10 games.

Here's our finals record...



Why on earth would any player, especially young players stay if they want success?

 

[Mojo]

I hope we don't give up assets this off-season because we're desperate to improve out list. If the targets aren't generally worthwhile, we should hold our tokens until next year.

 

[f4zz]

Hope we somehow land Flanders, he is a gun.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

I hope we don't give up assets this off-season because we're desperate to improve out list. If the targets aren't generally worthwhile, we should hold our tokens until next year.

I’d do our future first draft pick of 2024 for the suns first of 2023.

 

[Lickmesocks]

At the end of 2024 how is Hardwick going to stop him?

You reckon the shite served up today in Hobart is going to get BK rushing to sign an extension or ringing his agent to get the f*ck out of GC?

And Flanders? The guy who already has had 3 meetings with Vic clubs - he's going to stay for 4 more years?

I'll be quite honest - why on earth would any player who wants on-field success stay.

We ain't ever won more than 10 games.

Here's our finals record...

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Why on earth would any player, especially young players stay if they want success?

Because they have so much talent on that list and now the best coach. You watch that joint turn around.

 

[Roby]

Hope we somehow land Flanders, he is a gun.

Still hasn't signed and out of contract this year.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Before today's game, hawks posters calling every trade target a spud. After today's game, hawks list no good, really need trades..

Those thinking McKay, Gresham or esava won't help us structurally are kidding.

The amount of clean clearances we had today that amounted to absolutely nothing because of the ineptitude up there had me tearing my hair out. A half decent structure we go close to winning even when not playing that well. McKay and Esava are upgrades on who we have outside of Sicily and Lewis. Anyone who thinks Kosi is better is kidding themselves. Esava will give you a good contest every time.

 

[Agent_99]

Safe to say Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

27

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

ship has sailed

 

[SodaPop]

Because they have so much talent on that list and now the best coach. You watch that joint turn around.

He was on the verge of being sacked half way through 2017. It was more Leppitsch and McRae that evolved the game plan that changed everything. I can’t see him having success for a few years at GC.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

If looks were important then Jess Sinclair would've been the greatest player of all time...

And yet, most of you have to google him to have a clue who I'm taking about...

Quality Fantasy Footballer

 

[Adrian Dodoro]

I'd hold off on getting too excited about a Pick 1 trade. Crows can still s**t the bed.

SYLstradamus