List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

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The difference is now Henry can pick 30 plus possessions in a game - 3 times this year , where Gresham never has in 8 yrs.
Greshams on the outer because Lyon insists on hard running endurance for his defense and Jade just doesn't have it - I 'm surprised how Higgins is coping.

A lot to play out this trade season - interested in what Clark does , if he stays he is going to need to really knuckledown this preseason.

Oh possessions is it? How many contested?
Gresham has had 18 contested possessions. He's also had 9 clearances.
I assume that Freo has someone who can win contested ball in their midfield kicking it out to Henry.
Well done on getting the ball that is kicked at you Henry.
 
Big losses big trouble brewing, they looked about as flat as it gets.
By all accounts the coach was not to happy with the attitude of some of the talent they have and of course that also comes down to leadership which they lack.
Parish was wanting out if he could get the deal he wanted , but in the end he knew it was a safer bet to stay where he was.
 
Whoever we bring into the club we hope they can help us get better but really Shiel has been poor for 4 seasons and expecting to turn it around at 31 with injury issues is very hopeful.

Of course I hope your right , but he will need to turn the clock back 5 or 6 yrs at least.
I don’t expect Shiel to be elite again. Between his ability to get from inside to outside and gain more territory or deeper entries with long kicks from stoppage and the associated draft pick that comes with a salary dump I don’t see why it is an issue. The alternative is to overpay those that are uncontracted and failed to get the job done and get no extra draft pick. Ross Steele and crouch rarely get out of congestion and need to hack kick it to the oppositions defender sitting 30m off the back of the stoppage too often. Or we over handball and turn it over before we even get an exit.
 

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Cordy was terrible against GWS. It was the first time that I've ever missed Doogs.

Too many guys blame Cordy for his one on one seriously even SOS would of struggled the way their midfielders dominated it was coming down quicker then diarrhoea running down your leg,team defence from the midfield was non existent.


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"If you live in the past...you die in the present"
Never a true sentence has been spoken.
Wow that blew my mind.
I think it is applicable here, there and all the other places.
I am going to roll a fat spilt and reassess everything. Gold.
A mate of mine says at the end of the day all you have is your integrity.
Onwards and upwards😉
 
Free Agency.

Once the compo pick #13 is confirmed ........ pull the pin on the Shiel deal.
Wont happen. If they make the deal it will go ahead, perhaps even with a better than expected pick (mid to late second).

Easy for supporters to be hard nosed, list mangers need to deal in the future and with Dildoro gone we want to have have good relations going forward.
Let's see how we deal with Bell after the crap he pulled in 2019 now the shoe is on the other foot.

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you have dumb mates then. no world beater but has played some solid football. as has been discussed ad nausea on the main board, the hypothetical is to get Shiel to St.Kilda, Gresham out of Moorabin and a pick to help appease in the Henry trade.
So Gresham wants to be paid less money at a club lower in the ladder whilst we give a first rounder for a player worth a pick around 25 to 35.
Sounds about right.
 
Wont happen. If they make the deal it will go ahead, perhaps even with a better than expected pick (mid to late second).

Easy for supporters to be hard nosed, list mangers need to deal in the future and with Dildoro gone we want to have have good relations going forward.
Let's see how we deal with Bell after the crap he pulled in 2019 now the shoe is on the other foot.

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I'm hoping for Hawthorn to enter the fray so we don't have to take on the salary, or take the salary plus a decent pick coming back.
 
If we got pick 12 and 13, would you prefer to use pick 12 on the draft and 13 on Henry and a pick back or 12 and 13 for the Suns pick 4 and something back, maybe one of their mids that aren't getting a load of game time?
 
FFS people have no understanding of Gresham’s motivation here. He doesn’t want to leave, he’s happy to leave if he gets what he wants in remuneration. He’s also happy to stay if he gets that money from the saints.

Club obviously values him less then his manager & he does.


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