List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part IV

[EddieMurphy]

ohhhh mid season trading - Shiel can be got in June

He's falling apart, by mid season next year he will be sharing a room with DMac at Healing Hans sanitorium in Germany.

 

[saintmike65]

Aren't we paying 200-300k?

Depends on the value of the pick given for him

 

[Yawkey way]

Gents.

You can just click ignore on my profile.

Why would I do that, you’re a weird mix but informative and a laugh at times.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

We're not here to make friends though. Stuff them.

Yeah get that but...

 

[stavro#4]

Why would I do that, you’re a weird mix but informative and a laugh at times.

I think I’m pretty normal compared to most of you.

But each to their own

 

[gringo2011]

If we pay some of Billings and then most of Shiel then we’re getting fuarked.

If we aren't getting pick paid back our way to take him we are getting done.

 

[ScrappyDo]

G'day Saints

Not here to stir but wanting to know your honest opinion on Billings? What has he got going for him and what has he got issues with?

Frm a Dess fan

He's a neat and reliable player that just can't handle pressure.
When the whips are cracking, you'll see why we are trading him.

 

[Remboy]

Shiel wants to play for St Kilda

Destination club!!

 

[The_Steadier]

who can use the ball

Temper your expectations.

He has a nice kicking action- but does not mean he uses the ball well.

Idiot commentators etc have been sucked in by it for years.
But the reality is- he usually/always takes the safe option.
Why?

Because his kicking is only average.
Not terrible- but not excellent.

He's the sort of guy that will kick a ball so it becomes a 50/50 contest (or worse)- whereas a legit good kick would have been able to put it to his teammates advantage (ie 70/30 contest or better)

 

[Saint Watto]

Billings and Gresham gone in the same week

Just called club have upgraded membership for 2024

If Howard goes I'll go buy another

Absolute gold there George.

Your on fire today !!!!!!!!

I'm just about ready to call 000.

 

[saintmike65]

He's been coasting for a long time.

Must have come as a shock to Billings that RTB didn't rate him and didn't consider playing him leaving him to waste away in the seconds.

I was hoping Billings could at least be good fringe value to us moving forwards as his better football is solid but he might be past it looking at his VFL numbers this year.

One good thing to come out of this trade and the Gresham trade too, is those who don't work hard enough are being shown the door.

Not a bad thing.

Great effort from his players is mandatory under the boss

 

[my name was taken]

A late pick?
So we're basically giving Billings away AND paying half his salary?
WTF?

That's nothing, I heard we are offering to pay part of Shiels contract for him to stay at the bombers

 

[Saint Watto]

Howard goes. I’ll get us reserved seats next to each other

Count me in and I'll pay for the reserved seats !!!!!!!

 

[saintmike65]

We will have to agree to disagree on this subject.

When fit and playing i don't believe he came close to fulfilling his potential.

That in essence is a work rate issue from my perspective.

Not hating on him either. I saw him as fair to solid.

He’s mentally fragile too but hope his fresh start works out

 

[Premium]

If Morris says we are a 5% chance on getting Shiel , he will be a Saint by days end.

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

Count me in and I'll pay for the reserved seats !!!!!!!

+1

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[DougalHoward]

We haven't got a Dougal replacement like Tom Jonas so he'll be staying

 

[BangersAndMash]

He's a neat and reliable player that just can't handle pressure.
When the whips are cracking, you'll see why we are trading him.

Bit of a contradiction there don't you think?

How can he reliable but when the pressure's on, he's not?

He's got talent and decent skills but zero guts I reckon. Shits his pants when kicking for goal. And his mum still packs his lunch.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Bit of a contradiction there don't you think?

How can he reliable but when the pressure's on, he's not?

He's got talent and decent skills but zero guts I reckon. Shits his pants when kicking for goal. And his mum still packs his lunch.

Agreed. I was being nice.
I won't let it happen again kent.

 

[The Jack]

We have a pretty thin squad now

Jack Hayes has a pretty fat arse. We've still got a bit of beef

 

[Silkie]

When are we getting a selfie video of paddy saying he's rapt to join Saint Kilda can't wait

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Can we not do Patty

 

[St Neil]

How's the contrast between the way StK are approaching players who want a fresh start & the Dopers?

Dodo trying to shaft D'Ambrosio despite them only offering him a rookie deal & Hawthorn offering a guaranteed senior spot and Ess a reasonable pick in return.

Shiel not in their plans or best 22 but pricing him out of any serious chance at getting another chance.

v

Coffield & Billings.

We may be disappointed with what we get back in return but we're also doing the right thing by players.

And that stuff gets noticed by player management.

 

[borderbarry]

It is ridiculous that we are trading Billings for next to nothing. Do our list managers think it is their job to improve Melbourne's list? Well they are doing a good job. If they are trying to improve our list. big fail.

 

[saintbill]

We have a pretty thin squad now

Depth looks a lot worse post trade period.

 

[The Punter]

I don't think trading Billings for some salary cap relief and a low pick does much for us in the short term.