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Which realistically available player SHOULD we pick at #4?

  • Sid Draper

  • Jagga Smith

  • Harvey Langford


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He wouldn't have a choice!

We pay what's owing next year in this year's cap.

Yes he does. It's stated in the by-laws it's termination by agreement in the afl. Unless Burgess breaches contract.

So why would Burgess agree to a payout?
 
Why would Burgess accept a payout when he's contracted? After all, that's career over. Better gambling for the miracle.
It's not a matter of whether or not he accepts it. If the club had decided to delist him and pay him out, then there's SFA he could have done about it.
Adelaide's issue isn't Burgess. It's we chose to recontracted Cook. Which was an awful decision even before the printer ink dried.
Re-signing Cook and Berry, allowing Smith to reach his contract trigger...
 

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abridged part of crows analysis in whole of afl article on all clubs and more. Same article says Kangas are 'locked in' on FOS after considering Tauru for months....


The Crows have said they will take the best player at pick 4 and that selecting a local is not a major factor. But all indications are that the best player on the board at pick 4 will be Sid Draper and Adelaide will take him over Victorian big-bodied midfielder Harvey Langford. A mooted swap for North Melbourne’s pick 2 now looks no chance and Carlton is poised to select Jagga Smith at pick 3 – who the Crows were believed to be targeting if they could have secured the Kangaroos’ selection.

Some clubs have Draper as high as No.2 on their draft boards, with the dynamic midfielder likened to Sydney’s Chad Warner and seen as a potential future club captain
 
Yes he does. It's stated in the by-laws it's termination by agreement in the afl. Unless Burgess breaches contract.

So why would Burgess agree to a payout?
I'm sorry, but that's just garbage.

According to Section 24.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the club has to schedule a time/date/place and hold a Delisting Meeting with the player. They need to inform the player (on an individual basis) what reasons the Club has for delisting the Player. The club must then arrange for the Player to meet with the Club's Player Development Manager (or equivalent) to start the process of transitioning them out of the club.

Nowhere in the CBA does it say anything about the player having to agree to be delisted.

Maybe you're getting confused with players being traded? Players can't be traded without their permission. They can, however, be delisted unilaterally by the Club.
 

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Yes he does. It's stated in the by-laws it's termination by agreement in the afl. Unless Burgess breaches contract.

So why would Burgess agree to a payout?
AFL players association would also be all over us

Player managers would be off us and telling their clients to steer clear

We should have traded a tradeable player out for a pick and not got smith to his trigger or convinced him he was done
 
I think there is more chance of us paying out Burgess than Richmond giving up a F1 for a 2 place move in this draft. I'd be stoked if they did though
F2 maybe, instead of the F1.

There's 0% chance of us paying out Burgess.

FWIW, I think we'll stick with pick #4 and re-draft Burgess in the RD.
 
F2 maybe, instead of the F1.

There's 0% chance of us paying out Burgess.

FWIW, I think we'll stick with pick #4 and re-draft Burgess in the RD.
More of a chance you win the lottery then getting Tigers F1

Definitely the dream scenario to get their F2, 6 and land Draper though, would depend on North going Tauru and Tigers really wanting Langford
 
More of a chance you win the lottery then getting Tigers F1

Definitely the dream scenario to get their F2, 6 and land Draper though, would depend on North going Tauru and Tigers really wanting Langford
I hear you, but I have wondered if tonight, it gets to our pick 4 and Smith is still there - Richmond like him a lot as they do Lalor. Might an on night offer from them come where it may be 4 + F1 for their 6 + F1..yes its likely pick 1 to us and we may improve next year but were bottom 4 this year. But to get Smith now, is that enough to twist their arm on such a possible attempt?
 
If we end up picking Langford at 4 and Draper slides to pick 8 would you say the same thing?

Because Melbourne and Richmond at pick 5 and 6 wouldn't take Draper if he's still on the board
Sorry, but this is wrong on so many levels.
 

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Yes he does. It's stated in the by-laws it's termination by agreement in the afl. Unless Burgess breaches contract.

So why would Burgess agree to a payout?
Players have been terminated plenty of times before. We just need to include any remaining future salary in the current cap.
 
I hear you, but I have wondered if tonight, it gets to our pick 4 and Smith is still there - Richmond like him a lot as they do Lalor. Might an on night offer from them come where it may be 4 + F1 for their 6 + F1..yes its likely pick 1 to us and we may improve next year but were bottom 4 this year. But to get Smith now, is that enough to twist their arm on such a possible attempt?
Any trades to happen would have to involve North wanting Tauru (so one of Draper/Langford will be there at 6)

Tigers weren't even willing to part with 6, 18 for 2 (so no chance they part with a F1, even if it's a swap of F1), would be a ballsy call to do that year 1 of the rebuild

North go FOS I believe and the dreams of trading dies with it
 
AFL players association would also be all over us

Player managers would be off us and telling their clients to steer clear

C'mon. No they wouldn't. If we delisted him and paid him the full amount - the Agent would love us.

Agent gets his full commission. Player gets paid in full and gets an opportunity to get paid elsewhere (Another AFL team or VFL/SANFL/WAFL).
 
North picking FOS when they already have a shit ton of elite midfield talent but zero KPD and only 1 elite forward, is bad list management.
Maybe, but what have we said and seen with those who HAVE picked a KPD in particular early in the draft ??

Its why they considered trading down.
 
C'mon. No they wouldn't. If we delisted him and paid him the full amount - the Agent would love us.

Agent gets his full commission. Player gets paid in full and gets an opportunity to get paid elsewhere (Another AFL team or VFL/SANFL/WAFL).
You’d be surprised

They use this sort of stuff

If he’s contracted to play afl then player managers would have a very dim view of it unless it was mutual decision
 

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