2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[joydivision22]

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if he had as good a champs as he did the rest of the year he would be a lock for Pick . The only reason he is available to us is because of the less than expectations performance.

at [emoji[emoji6]] + [emoji[emoji6]] we aren't going to get the pick of the litter here, anyone that slides to us will have knocks on them but I think he would be best available and fit a need if he slides to [emoji[emoji6]].

Just realized I’m preaching to the person choir haha

 

[akaifu]

Just had a crazy thought. Remember when Schoenmaker was rated in the first round? Imagine if Trainor slid to the 4th round because of his concussion issues

Both third talls, both beautiful kicks

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

When did I ever say there was a clear top 6?

All I said was that imo there's a clear top 6 of mids. FOS, Jagga, Draper, Lalor, Smillie, Langford. Tauru isn't a mid

The thing a lot of non-draft focused supporters don't understand is that there is a clear top 6 (in the context of our squad; FOS, Jagga, Draper, Smillie, Lalor, Langford) in the open pool and we now have picks 7 & 8 when we could've had 5 & 6 and been in the perfect position. I get the view that its only a slide of two picks, but I feel like that is extremely uninformed in the context of this year's crop. The gap between pick 6 and pick 7 is the same as what it was between Phillipou and Hollands (10 to 11) in 2022, and what it was from O'Sullivan to Gothard (11 to 12) last year - hence why the top-end is being labelled weak. We now have to rely on other clubs to take bolters to get a look into the top crop. Hopefully North Melbourne trade down at the top and take Trainor

you qualified it by saying "in the context of our squad" I guess, either way I don't think the gap between 6 and 7 is what you and others made it out to be at the time, it's a very even first round so just hoping the pymple has done his home work

 

[akaifu]

you qualified it by saying "in the context of our squad" I guess, either way I don't think the gap between 6 and 7 is what you and others made it out to be at the time, it's a very even first round so just hoping the pymple has done his home work

I mean, my point still stands. If we had finished with picks 5 & 6 we'd almost be guaranteed two of FOS, Jagga, Draper, Lalor, Smillie which would've been absolutely ideal. It's no coincidence those are the main guys who have been in the pick 1 conversation throughout the year

The below picture also supports my argument (apart from Reid but I think many of us would agree he's been overrated)

 

[Armoooo]

Trade 9 to GWS for 15 and 16.
They have made it clear they want a top 10 pick and have their picks on the table.

If GWS are willing to trade 15 and 16 for 9, wouldn't Essendon make that trade themselves?

I don't think they'd had much trouble trading those picks for future first round picks.

 

[JediSaint]

Is this website credible?

AFL Draft Power Rankings: September 2024

With boys pathway seasons coming to a close around the nation, it's time for another instalment of our monthly AFL Draft Power Rankings.

central.rookieme.com

Happy for FOS and Smille at 7 and 8

 

[akaifu]

Is this website credible?

AFL Draft Power Rankings: September 2024

With boys pathway seasons coming to a close around the nation, it's time for another instalment of our monthly AFL Draft Power Rankings.

central.rookieme.com

They are the guys that operate the draft combine so I guess a bit

What I find with their rankings is that they focus a lot on the current performance of players in their draft years, rather than trying to project the careers of the players and seeing who has the most upside and who is most likely to reach their potential. Makes it very volatile to injuries and unavailability

Could consider it more a 'best and fairest of draft year ranking' more than a 'draft ranking' if that makes sense

I dont pay much attention to their rankings personally

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

I mean, my point still stands. If we had finished with picks 5 & 6 we'd almost be guaranteed two of FOS, Jagga, Draper, Lalor, Smillie which would've been absolutely ideal. It's no coincidence those are the main guys who have been in the pick 1 conversation throughout the year

The below picture also supports my argument (apart from Reid but I think many of us would agree he's been overrated)

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well, time will tell how impactful higgin's goal was, but at least we agree on reid

 

[stavro#4]

If GWS are willing to trade 15 and 16 for 9, wouldn't Essendon make that trade themselves?

I don't think they'd had much trouble trading those picks for future first round picks.

They can’t do that.

The bids eat the picks.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I’m now up to date with all the player highlights and for mine Lindsay is close to the most impressive at our range. He doesn’t have the same agility or explosiveness as FOS, Jagga, Reid or Lalor but he’s probably the cleanest and classiest and tackles with ferocity based on the small highlights packages I saw. Statistically he stacks up very favourably averaging 24 odd touches across all competitions. I suspect he is the bust proof guy we take with pick 8. Pick 7 take a punt on one of the big mids such as Smille or Langford or the Viking. This is of course if FOS, Jagga and Lalor don’t slide. Murphy hard pass. Just gets pushed off the ball too often and too easily.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Just had a crazy thought. Remember when Schoenmaker was rated in the first round? Imagine if Trainor slid to the 4th round because of his concussion issues

Both third talls, both beautiful kicks

Totally difference circumstances between Schoe'y and Trainor and in any case you are all over the show with your posts about Trainor.
One min you say we don't need a player with concussion issues , next post is draft him.
I do agree if he slipped to pick 50 -60 take him but id very much doubt it

 

[Armoooo]

They can’t do that.

The bids eat the picks.

Im saying that if GWS are willing to trade 9 for 15 and 16, why wouldn't essendon do it before draft night and then trade them both for future firsts.

15 and 16 would therefore be gone before a bid is made.

 

[Yawkey way]

Totally difference circumstances between Schoe'y and Trainor and in any case you are all over the show with your posts about Trainor.
One min you say we don't need a player with concussion issues , next post is draft him.
I do agree if he slipped to pick 50 -60 take him but id very much doubt it

There’s concussion and the new afl protocols and then there’s getting knocked out cold concussions. Obviously we’d want to be all over his history. I think if you applied todays approach many guys in the 60’s, 70’s would have had a dozen or more. Doctors sitting there looking at slow motion footage and rightfully erring on the side of caution.

Trainor is a ripper he can play back, go forward and kick goals he’s very versatile. I wouldn’t draft him with our first two picks because we have greater needs but anything after that he’d have to be in discussion's imo.

 

[2ballz]

Not sure why but I think the AFL would have been much more reluctant to give Battle Band 1 Compo and hand over pick 6 compared to getting pick 8 for him. With the secret herbs and spices of the compo picks, Higgins goal could have actually helped us get Band 1

 

[stavro#4]

Im saying that if GWS are willing to trade 9 for 15 and 16, why wouldn't essendon do it before draft night and then trade them both for future firsts.

15 and 16 would therefore be gone before a bid is made.

Thats not the home run you think it is that clubs are going to throw first rounders at.

Ashcroft Lombard Kako potentially Marshall all get bid on.

They look like 19. + 20.

So, you want clubs to trade future firsts for arguably second round picks?

 

[akaifu]

Totally difference circumstances between Schoe'y and Trainor and in any case you are all over the show with your posts about Trainor.
One min you say we don't need a player with concussion issues , next post is draft him.
I do agree if he slipped to pick 50 -60 take him but id very much doubt it

What??

I literally said if we want Trainor, we should split pick 9 (if we get it) and take him later. Read the comment again and don’t twist my words

Taking him at 9 vs 15/16 vs 62 are all completely different scenarios idk how you could remotely make that comparison

And in the post you quoted when did I actually say I wanted us to take him?

Craziest comment I’ve ever seen, clutching at straws and making things up to have a go at me

 

[Armoooo]

Thats not the home run you think it is that clubs are going to throw first rounders at.

Ashcroft Lombard Kako potentially Marshall all get bid on.

They look like 19. + 20.

So, you want clubs to trade future firsts for arguably second round picks?

I've been getting told how useless next year's draft is and that every man man and their dog are desperate to get into this draft so wouldn't the likes of Port and Carlton make the move?

I don't think GWS would make the trade anyway so it's probably all moot.

 

[stavro#4]

I've been getting told how useless next year's draft is and that every man man and their dog are desperate to get into this draft so wouldn't the likes of Port and Carlton make the move?

I don't think GWS would make the trade anyway so it's probably all moot.

Because next years first still would hold more value for POINTS to the academy sides then trading in and taking effectively a start of second round pick.

Make sense?

 

[triggering bro]

Smillie being interviewed on TR. Interesting that Lyon interviewed Smillie. Yze and Goodwin too. Looks like he’s right in the 5-7 mix.

He’s now above 195cm fmd. Models himself on Cripps.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Smillie being interviewed on TR. Interesting that Lyon interviewed Smillie. Yze and Goodwin too. Looks like he’s right in the 5-7 mix.

He’s now above 195cm fmd. Models himself on Cripps.

Sounds a really intelligent young fella who speaks well. Said he has also grown now listed at 195.5cm's tall.

 

[botts]

Sounds a really intelligent young fella who speaks well. Said he has also grown now listed at 195.5cm's tall.

Geez. I don’t think he makes it to our pick now. That’s massive

 

[The Jack]

Sounds a really intelligent young fella who speaks well. Said he has also grown now listed at 195.5cm's tall.

When are you too tall to be a mid?

 

[HeavenlySources]

I would be very happy if Smillie gets to our pick 7. Combination of him and a classy ball user like Lindsay is elite.

Still leaves us with the need for a pacey, explosive mid though. I guess we do have that on the outside with Nas, Garcia etc.

 

[HeavenlySources]

When are you too tall to be a mid?

When you are slow and can’t move well. His combine suggests he isn’t slow but also not fast. His foot skills imo are better than Langford by a small margin.

 

[stavro#4]

Smillie being interviewed on TR. Interesting that Lyon interviewed Smillie. Yze and Goodwin too. Looks like he’s right in the 5-7 mix.

He’s now above 195cm fmd. Models himself on Cripps.

Sounds a really intelligent young fella who speaks well. Said he has also grown now listed at 195.5cm's tall.

Gee he was impressive. Loved hearing about how he was learning on how he could impact the game outside of direct performance.