2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[Sully111]

Don't want Smillie. His name is Josh.

Will need a girlfriend to dictate his every move.

Not ideal.

 

[OxSaint]

Great summation…only thing I differ on is Travaglia’s kicking, he went at 82.5% kicking efficiency for Vic Country this year!
Last year won the B & F for Bendigo Pioneers as an under ager with Harley Reid playing for them!!
Kids a gun & has a lot of clubs that like him.
He may start off as a half back but when he puts on more size will be a terrific inside/outside mid.

Harley Reid played six games. Bendigo don’t offer the talent of some of the other Coates league programs either. That’s just a beat up.

His kicking efficiency is reflective of him bombing it long, nothing more. If he fail to make it as a mid he will be a small lockdown defender, not a rebounding halfback. He is not the one you want distributing front the back half. I would argue that Bo Allan’s kicking from halfback is better than trav’s.

If we picked him at 32 and I watched his highlights for the first time I wouldn’t be excited by it. I get that he is better than that but his best doesn’t scream top 10 talent.

 

[Veer Right]

I think a few in here might do well viewing some of the posts in the Draft Hub page.

A lot of balanced views from other club supporters acknowledging how poor the quality of the Top 6 mids are this year compared to other years, whilst similarly being quite effusive of our position in the Top 10 which usually peters off but contains better credentialled played then you would typically find.

A lot of strong support for a Trav and Tauru double, projecting what they can become and the skillsets they bring.

If there was ever a year to not go after a Top 5 pick strongly, it may have been this one....

Your post and the one below gives me more confidence in his possible selection.

VFL numbers were very good. I just didn't see anything with his dosposal that says he can take games on offensively. On the flipside a work horse who runs all day whos job it is to feed it out might not be a bad thing!

 

[gringo2011]

Naaah not often i disagree with you gringo but our list has a big hole in the middle - we need classy midfielders.

There are maybes with the Pou and Garcia but we need class and depth in the midfield.

We always need to be trying to improve it but you don't need to panic buy. Macrae buys us some time to get it right at our own pace. I think Phillipou has shown he has class. Hugo has all the tools to be something special. We have picks in the next draft and we are also in the hunt for LDU types.

 

[Saintbloke]

Jesus , Max was a great stopper but a pretty average footballer.

Oh well, at least he did something right in that case

 

[luca77]

Thinking about it again, hopefully we miss both of them.

The spelling Nazi's on hear wil loose they're shit and will be absoulutely unbearabble.

Hunter Clarke, Hunter Clarke.

I'm coming for you. And any shyte spellers you're sheltering under your floor.
JB actually spelled Allan correctly a minute ago. Must have been influenced by all this talk from draftees of being their best selves.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

If we do split 8 for 15 & 16, I wouldn't be against trading one of those picks out. See what Essendon/North have to offer. Buy low and sell high

 

[OxSaint]

Getting a mid that gets 25+ every week would be great but not essential in our midfield. We need power and speed with the ability to compete with bigger midfields. Bo Allan offers that. Whilst he isn’t experienced in the midfield or a high clearance player, he does halve a lot of clearances his team would lose without him due to his pressure. I think he would have a decent impact on our clearance differential regardless of whether he is getting clearances himself.

 

[King_Steele]

Christmas has come early!!

Can't wait to see what unfolds

 

[gringo2011]

Don't want Smillie. His name is Josh.

Will need a girlfriend to dictate his every move.

Not ideal.

Josh Saunders is asking his mum if he can reply in a very assertive way right at this moment.

 

[stfan]

Why do people keep mentioning 193 as if it is too small.
Curnow is 194, Steven May is 193, Sicily is 188, Waterman is 192, Fritsch is 188, Aliir is 194, Sam Collins is 194, Josh Battle is 194, Wilkie is 191

In terms of draft picks, and especially early picks, then yes you may take the talented 193 player, as you assess all their qualities and being better in some of those qualities (including vertical leap) can offset a lack in other qualities.

While I get your point, the forward, or backlines, ideally need to be a mix of player heights. Quality is always important, but some positions will always be filled by role players, or GOPS.

Ideally you want at least one really tall key back and and key forward. So 193 is fine if you have a taller defender as well.
Having said that virtually every team will have some type of deficiencies, and height alone is not a guarantee (ie Cox at Collingwood). So teams will run at times with short back, or forward, lines because they just do not have adequate quality taller players.

Battle is 193 I believe. The Hawks lured Battle 193 from us, but they also grabbed Barass at 197 to balance out and improve their backline.

May be only 193 but has exceptional strength, and excellent judgement. Trevor Barker was a freak! So players of of 193-ish if they are good enough can certainly play a key position. Do you want both your CHF/FF or CHB/FB to only be 193 though?

Fritsch is a very good forward, but personally I would not want him to be playing the Key Forward role week in/ week out, just as I also did not want Membrey to be doing so. "Third tall" role is where they shine.


Wilkie is exceptional and can certainly play FB well, but I think we see the best of him when he is freed up with Dougal (or eventually another tall) playing the FB role.


Unless we trade up, or a tallish player goes early to push a quality mid back, it looks as would go best available with our first two picks (if not traded) which may gain the 193 Taura!. But then again we may instead try and trade down to gain two other players instead. Much will depend on what we can gain in a trade, and/or if North will trade with us at ok price.


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[St Kilda Death]

Getting a mid that gets 25+ every week would be great but not essential in our midfield. We need power and speed with the ability to compete with bigger midfields. Bo Allan offers that. Whilst he isn’t experienced in the midfield or a high clearance player, he does halve a lot of clearances his team would lose without him due to his pressure. I think he would have a decent impact on our clearance differential regardless of whether he is getting clearances himself.

Well he did average 4 clearances a game.
I’ve sung his praises but maybe it’s time we let go, it’s not looking likely

 

[billings2paddy]

We always need to be trying to improve it but you don't need to panic buy. Macrae buys us some time to get it right at our own pace. I think Phillipou has shown he has class. Hugo has all the tools to be something special. We have picks in the next draft and we are also in the hunt for LDU types.

Reid and Lindsay would be good gets

 

[Half Back Pocket]

Tauru then a split #8 into Lindsay & Reid would be sensational.

Ticks a lot of boxes

I reckon we'd need 10 & 11 off Richmond to get this done

 

[snails13]

If first name is read at 7.30, which seems unlikely and could be another 10 mins of waffle - that’s 7 picks prior (with Ashcroft), then 8.15 at earliest?

Throw in a possible bid. Then if we bid twice (so 8 is outside of the real 10), add another 5 mins for top 10 photo opp if they still do that? Could be 8.20 and beyond 8.30 for the second pick .

It’s just been lobbed on my desk that my son has to be picked up at school at 8pm. 30 min round trip. Could have killed an army with my facial expression.

Does your son have detention

 

[Air King]

 

[SteeleSaints]

ESPN's full, final Phantom Draft - every pick, every trade, every bid

It's draft day! Seventy-one picks, nine bids, four live trades, and a whole lot of drama is being predicted in ESPN's full, final Phantom ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft.

www.espn.com.au

Travaglia (FRDP), Reid (FRDP), Armstrong (FRDP), Moraes (FRDP) & Dodson (second round)

PLUS Hoffman and Cole - my god where do we sign!!!

 

[saint66au]

PLUS Hoffman and Cole - my god where do we sign!!!

Using a 2nd rounder on a big ruckman ( and potentially another mature one as a SSP) would mean we still have a big ??? on Moose

 

[stavro#4]

PLUS Hoffman and Cole - my god where do we sign!!!

Would prefer Trainor to Moraes

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Using a 2nd rounder on a big ruckman ( and potentially another mature one as a SSP) would mean we still have a big ??? on Moose

3 ruckmen isn't too many for a list.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Using a 2nd rounder on a big ruckman ( and potentially another mature one as a SSP) would mean we still have a big ??? on Moose

Not necessarily the club moved him onto the main list, he is just taking so time to develop which is not unusual for ruckman. The thing with Moose is he is also useful forward which gives the club the option of playing two ruckman. I think thats critical for any ruckman these days, they have to other tools in their kit bags.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Would prefer Trainor to Moraes

Yeah there are a number of options, but just to get 15,16 & 21 off GWS would be enormous!

 

[stavro#4]

Yeah there are a number of options, but just to get 15,16 & 21 off GWS would be enormous!

Probably another nice thing that won’t happen.

Only the best possible outcome for us tonight

 

[HeavenlySources]

I'd prefer Bo Allan over Tobie Travaglia, has there been any links with Allan? Allan and Tauru the two best all-round Athletes in the draft

 

[kyrgios]

Reid and Lindsay would be good gets

with a name like billing2paddy why should we listen to you?