2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[gringo2011]

Crouch continues a very bad trend of St Kilda players being forced into retirement before their time.

Armitage, J Steven, K Stevens, Roberton, Carlisle, even Ross. I'm probably forgetting a few. When you're losing key players at the age of 30 instead of 33 it leaves a massive hole in the list that is not easily replaced by an extra 18 year old rookie.

Training services and medical might need a clean out.

 

[Mighty_sainter]

The Viking news sounds pretty precautionary with two more weeks left of training in the year I dare say he would just be doing running to prep himself to come back to full training late jan early feb

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Crouch continues a very bad trend of St Kilda players being forced into retirement before their time.

Armitage, J Steven, K Stevens, Roberton, Carlisle, even Ross. I'm probably forgetting a few. When you're losing key players at the age of 30 instead of 33 it leaves a massive hole in the list that is not easily replaced by an extra 18 year old rookie.

Training services and medical might need a clean out.

Among the lot mentioned we have mental illness, a concussion, a dodgy ticker and some cases of slowing down through old age.

Not sure what Training Services and Medical staff can do about that stuff

 

[akaifu]

Boyd + Dodson split the ruck time
Heath spends a year playing mostly forward, to develop that aspect of his game.
Keeler goes to CHB where he spent a portion of 2024

Keeler might be that Paddy Ryder/Jake Carlisle 'play anywhere' type.

If our plans were to play Heath as a predominant forward in 2025 then he would've been delisted a month ago

 

[goodie23]

The Viking news sounds pretty precautionary with two more weeks left of training in the year I dare say he would just be doing running to prep himself to come back to full training late jan early feb

Back stress fractures are an injury type that really worries me. Misson cited Olli Hotton and Angus McLennan as examples of players who arrived with them which are names that do not inspire a huge amount of confidence.

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

Back stress fractures are an injury type that really worries me. Misson cited Olli Hotton and Angus McLennan as examples of players who arrived with them which are names that do not inspire a huge amount of confidence.

Jack Bytel ?

 

[goodie23]

Jack Bytel ?

Another name that sprang to my mind, not quoted in the article mentioned (for obvious reasons, surprised he said Hotton)

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Pretty sure Bytel was a bulging disc rather than stress fractures.

Anyway, maybe in the end he and Hotton just weren’t good enough

 

[littlecreatures]

Crouch continues a very bad trend of St Kilda players being forced into retirement before their time.

Armitage, J Steven, K Stevens, Roberton, Carlisle, even Ross. I'm probably forgetting a few. When you're losing key players at the age of 30 instead of 33 it leaves a massive hole in the list that is not easily replaced by an extra 18 year old rookie.

Do we count Billings too? Technically he stopped playing footy at 24 or 25

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Do we count Billings too? Technically he stopped playing footy at 24 or 25

 

[Diehard Saint]

Training services and medical might need a clean out.

Not sure you could blame training services for Stuv, Roberton or Koby.
You forgot Dempster and Moose McG ( yes I know he left, didn’t retire) neither of whose injuries could be blamed on the medical/training people either.

Can’t remember the reason Jake C retired, but I do to remember our people puncturing his lung injecting him when he had cracked ribs. So thats a maybe.

 

[StCicatriz]

Do we count Billings too? Technically he stopped playing footy at 24 or 25

If there ever was a guy I'd have killed to see get traded mid game it was him.

The sight of seeing him get dragged off the ground and forced to take the jumper off right there and then would have been perfect.

 

[seasonedsainter]

Good player until he was effed up by a real goose

And people are hand wringing about Bolton. All Roughhead did (the apparently great bloke) was extract the cash & experience, feck someone’s career then feck off back to Hawthorn. I can’t stand those total pricks especially now Ratten has fumbled his way back there too.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

Some interesting tidbits in this article regarding different deals offered at different stages...

Inside the draft: Deals that Tigers rejected, the 'it' player who six clubs chased

Callum Twomey takes a closer look at the wheeling and dealing behind the scenes at the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

"The Saints had options with their next two selections. Travaglia was their bankable player, the prospect who will start as a defender but progress into midfield duties soon enough. After making the bid on Leo Lombard, they coupled Travaglia with Tauru, adding two competitive, tough talents. Joe Berry and Xavier Lindsay were in the next bracket for the Saints.

But this is where clubs started to get active and the phone calls began. When St Kilda were on the clock for Tauru's selection, North Melbourne got on the front foot. With Tauru still there, the Roos offered their future first-round pick, which was knocked back."

Also from the article, the Saints offered their future first for the Tigers pick just after our 7 and 8 in a bid to land Berry.

 

[gringo2011]

Among the lot mentioned we have mental illness, a concussion, a dodgy ticker and some cases of slowing down through old age.

Not sure what Training Services and Medical staff can do about that stuff

In those cases you are right but having struggled to field a fit team in the last 5 years I reckon they should be under scrutiny.

 

[austinnn]

Some interesting tidbits in this article regarding different deals offered at different stages...

Inside the draft: Deals that Tigers rejected, the 'it' player who six clubs chased

Callum Twomey takes a closer look at the wheeling and dealing behind the scenes at the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

"The Saints had options with their next two selections. Travaglia was their bankable player, the prospect who will start as a defender but progress into midfield duties soon enough. After making the bid on Leo Lombard, they coupled Travaglia with Tauru, adding two competitive, tough talents. Joe Berry and Xavier Lindsay were in the next bracket for the Saints.

But this is where clubs started to get active and the phone calls began. When St Kilda were on the clock for Tauru's selection, North Melbourne got on the front foot. With Tauru still there, the Roos offered their future first-round pick, which was knocked back."

Also from the article, the Saints offered their future first for the Tigers pick just after our 7 and 8 in a bid to land Berry.

Interesting that we weren't going to pick Smillie if he was available. Wonder why our team weren't into him?

"Smillie's drafting by Richmond had looked to be one of the top-10 certainties. But if he hadn't have gone at the Tigers' pick No.7, he likely would have gotten through to their next two picks, past St Kilda and Melbourne's selections. However, Richmond wasn't prepared to take that risk – or more accurately, risk another club swooping on one of St Kilda's picks and taking Smillie – and took the 195cm ball-winner at seven."

 

[beside the seaside]

Interesting that we weren't going to pick Smillie if he was available. Wonder why our team weren't into him?

"Smillie's drafting by Richmond had looked to be one of the top-10 certainties. But if he hadn't have gone at the Tigers' pick No.7, he likely would have gotten through to their next two picks, past St Kilda and Melbourne's selections. However, Richmond wasn't prepared to take that risk – or more accurately, risk another club swooping on one of St Kilda's picks and taking Smillie – and took the 195cm ball-winner at seven."

It seems if we'd lost against Carlton we probably end up with Langford and Travaglia. Assuming we had Langford above Tauru. If not we may have had the same players.

 

[phantom13]

Interesting that we weren't going to pick Smillie if he was available. Wonder why our team weren't into him?

"Smillie's drafting by Richmond had looked to be one of the top-10 certainties. But if he hadn't have gone at the Tigers' pick No.7, he likely would have gotten through to their next two picks, past St Kilda and Melbourne's selections. However, Richmond wasn't prepared to take that risk – or more accurately, risk another club swooping on one of St Kilda's picks and taking Smillie – and took the 195cm ball-winner at seven."

I quite liked Smilie but hes got massive boom or bust potential. Big bodied kids often look like junior stars being bigger and stronger.

Not a "knock" as such but i can see why there was trepidation

 

[seasonedsainter]

Wow we knocked back Nth's future first for Tauru? Fmd. That could very well be pick 1.

 

[seasonedsainter]

So Berry was the mid-teens player we were after. I hate to say it but he looks very very handy (and a bit like The Joker?).

 

[Hayes4PM]

Wow we knocked back Nth's future first for Tauru? Fmd. That could very well be pick 1.

Not with Tiges fielding about 7 first year players next year. They’re gonna be inaugural expansion club year levels of bad. Also everyone seems to be saying that the top prospects are academy linked. A pick 2-4 might only get us the 5th-7th best player.

Not just us in thinking that either, look at what their future 1st ended up getting them! Pick 27 this year and a 2nd rounder. That’s a very good deal by the Tiges but that can’t have been the first club they called up to entertain a trade. Looks to be a pretty universal rating of this years draft and next years draft among the clubs.

 

[seasonedsainter]

Not with Tiges fielding about 7 first year players next year. They’re gonna be inaugural expansion club year levels of bad. Also everyone seems to be saying that the top prospects are academy linked. A pick 2-4 might only get us the 5th-7th best player.

Not just us in thinking that either, look at what their future 1st ended up getting them! Pick 27 this year and a 2nd rounder. That’s a very good deal by the Tiges but that can’t have been the first club they called up to entertain a trade. Looks to be a pretty universal rating of this years draft and next years draft among the clubs.

Good points and/or/however we’ll see how it plays out!

From our POV at least most other Clubs passed it up too and after our pick to boot.

And Tau-Roo does seem the most relaxed and natural draftee we’ve taken in quite some time. Comes across as an 18 year old zen master.


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[snails13]

Wow we knocked back Nth's future first for Tauru? Fmd. That could very well be pick 1.

If we were happy with 1 top 10 pick this year we would have traded for P2 rather than next year's 1st from them

 

[Saintbloke]

And people are hand wringing about Bolton. All Roughhead did (the apparently great bloke) was extract the cash & experience, feck someone’s career then feck off back to Hawthorn. I can’t stand those total pricks especially now Ratten has fumbled his way back there too.

I tend to agree about Roughhead, but I thought Ratten's treatment by the club was pretty short-sighted, he got us into the finals, then had a string of ongoing serious injuries on the list which limited him putting a consistent team on the field. Had he had a fit full list to choose from, we probably would have made the finals again under him. Anyway that's all history.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Good points and/or/however we’ll see how it plays out!

From our POV at least most other Clubs passed it up too and after our pick to boot.

And Tau-Roo does seem the most relaxed and natural draftee we’ve taken in quite some time. Comes across as an 18 year old zen master.


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Remember we were publicly talking about trading back into the 2st round this year, as were several other clubs, and almost no one got it done. I think that speaks to the valuation of this years draft vs next years draft. I'm sure we would have offered pick 7 and next years first rounder for pick 2 to Norf. Seems like everyone wanted a piece of this top 10 at the expense of next year, no one wanted out.

Also the fact Norf were contemplating Tauru at 2 supposedly speaks to his value at pick 8. Showed so much so late in the year with injuries interrupting his last 18 months, could have been a solidified pick 2 if he had the opportunity to demonstrate it.

25 in 2025: A look ahead to next year’s top prospects

With the 2024 AFL Draft in the books, it is time to look forward to next year's crop. We highlight 25 prospects to watch in 2025.

central.rookieme.com

There's an awful lot of "Suns Academy" and "Swans Academy" in that 25 to watch list. Think next off season might be more about trades and Free Agents, particularly after going ahead and drafting SIX (!) U18's players this year, that's a once in a blue moon list move and we obviously picked this draft to do it with the reported depth of talent.

Would not be surprised to see out first pick next year packaged up with something else for a player and us only drafting 2 kids and some shuffling of rookie spots and main list spots.