List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[RUNVS]

That's not going to happen. First off what club would be mad enough to walk a player of Chad's calibre through the PSD knowing any club ahead of them could pick him up. Especially since Freo is also interested.

The PSD threat is near a fallacy these days - clubs just don't do it.

There is a real chance West Coast finishes last in 2025.

 

[Olian]

There is a real chance West Coast finishes last in 2025.

Richmond says hold my beer.

 

[RUNVS]

Richmond says hold my beer.

Probably, but not guaranteed, and if West Coast finish 17th in 2025 then the PSD is a real threat.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Not too busy to ask someone else to do your research for you.

Just asked a question, maybe they watch the VFL more than I do?

 

[kickthething]

Have to assume he was going to be delisted if we didn’t get him a trade.

Paying the price for earlier wrestling exploits

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

The PSD threat is near a fallacy these days - clubs just don't do it.

But is this because the club losing the player now always chooses to take something over nothing?

I think the threat of PSD has resulted in poor compo at least a few times?

Hopefully a couple of non-WA clubs can come last and second last, to really dilute the threat.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Probably, but not guaranteed, and if West Coast finish 17th in 2025 then the PSD is a real threat.

West coast will improve heaps watch

 

[Dubai Quacker]

5 out so far, none in.

Suggestive that perhaps there’s not many more delistings to come?

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

It may have been a hastily written story on the Swans website, but interesting that Konstanty was not thanked for his service - while Parker was.

Keane also didn’t acknowledge a contribution from Konstanty in his albeit very brief remarks in his interview.

Usually they do have a perfunctory thank you. Maybe it will come… or maybe Konstanty burned his bridges.

Parker and Konstanty traded to North Melbourne

The Sydney Swans have received pick 44 in the 2024 National Draft in exchange for Luke Parker and Jacob Konstanty in a trade with the North Melbourne Football Club.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

 

[Adnico26Parker]

If Mitchell is staying, do we try and rookie-list him to free up a senior list spot?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If Mitchell is staying, do we try and rookie-list him to free up a list spot?

Just don’t see the point unless we are taking an extra pick which we won’t

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Just don’t see the point unless we are taking an extra pick which we won’t

If we roll with the usual 36/8 list next year, we currently only have 2 senior list spots going into the draft.

 

[RilesMacca]

I'd have liked us to go after anyone who ticked the boxes of either a contested inside mid, or a small forward of any kind. They were out there. We either weren't interested or we failed to convert our interest into trades. Neither impresses me.

If it is because our salary cap is full, then that impresses me even less, because I don't think our list is good enough for our salary cap to be chockers.

Just my opinion.

Riley Garcia and Joe Richards were types I personally were keen on. Both showed great flashes this year.

We pushed late to try and acquire them but Garcia's management wanted more money than what we offered (journo on trade radio said that) and it was hard to see us match Ports 4 year deal for Richards.

One of the main goals for the list this year was to retain the core players on long deals (Loges, OFlo and Hayward), so given the cap space seems a bit tight it was understandable that we didn't play hardball for the players out on the market.

We sat on our hands this time two years ago and have done the same thing again this trade period, but our list looks far more superior than what it was in 22. We had a very productive offseason last year.

Within our list who knows as well. Gussy or Cleary could be on the verge of a big 2025. It's why I feel it's a good time to be offloading Parker.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Paying the price for earlier wrestling exploits

I think we would all say this tongue in cheek but I wonder whether this caused his stocks at the club to plummet rapidly. I mean, he was being talked up as an early debutante in 2023 but then copped injuries, busted Mills' shoulder, then literally never to be seen again.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

If Mitchell is staying, do we try and rookie-list him to free up a senior list spot?

Doubt it - we now have 5 senior list spots.

I’m struggling to see how Kirk retains a rookie spot.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Doubt it - we now have 5 senior list spots.

I’m struggling to see how Kirk retains a rookie spot.

We currently have 2 under the 36/8

We had 37, and lost Vickery, Konstanty and Parker

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

Wicked thought, but imagine if North play Swans at SCG for Parker’s 300th, then late in the game Konstanty tackles Mills and re-dislocates his shoulder

 

[kickthething]

I think we would all say this tongue in cheek but I wonder whether this caused his stocks at the club to plummet rapidly. I mean, he was being talked up as an early debutante in 2023 but then copped injuries, busted Mills' shoulder, then literally never to be seen again.

I have no doubt this was part of the decision.

 

[kickthething]

I would have liked to see us talk to Xavier O Hallaron. Watched plenty of him last sewaon and is a real competitive beast who never gives up, someone we could have used . He now stays at GWS.

 

[Bandicoot]

44 for parker was fair if they wanted to give him 3 years.

Should be a future pick as well to get Konstanty

He would quite likely have been delisted anyway so if that's what it took to get the deal done, so be it.

 

[The King!]

He would quite likely have been delisted anyway so if that's what it took to get the deal done, so be it.

Yeah probably true

 

[Dubai Quacker]

We currently have 2 under the 36/8

We had 37, and lost Vickery, Konstanty and Parker

Good point & I stand corrected. I’d forgotten some delistings were rookies.

 

[zyzzbruh]

It may have been a hastily written story on the Swans website, but interesting that Konstanty was not thanked for his service - while Parker was.

Keane also didn’t acknowledge a contribution from Konstanty in his albeit very brief remarks in his interview.

Usually they do have a perfunctory thank you. Maybe it will come… or maybe Konstanty burned his bridges.

Parker and Konstanty traded to North Melbourne

The Sydney Swans have received pick 44 in the 2024 National Draft in exchange for Luke Parker and Jacob Konstanty in a trade with the North Melbourne Football Club.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

Very petty from the club if that is the case.

 

[Kbroome]

You have to think about it logically and not keep going back to Konstanty being pick 20.

Konstanty is probably behind all of Papley, Campbell, Cleary, Wicks and Hanily for the small forward role
Parker wanted midfield time and rightfully the extra 1.5m that North offered over 2 more years.

We clear off a spare 500k (difference from Parker contract to rookie contract) to dangle at Warner, if we can do that for his 2025 contract. We also open up 2 main list spots (allowing us 4 main list spots at the national draft). We also got pick 44 which will come into pick 40 after bidding and thus can be moved on if someone wants some draftee badly or we can draft a slider

 

[zyzzbruh]

Wicked thought, but imagine if North play Swans at SCG for Parker’s 300th, then late in the game Konstanty tackles Mills and re-dislocates his shoulder

Take it to the bank that's how the AFL will try to organise the fixturing. They did it with Round 0 this year and it could not be more obvious.