Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[fairdinks]

I have waited a while for the disappointment to subside after a truly awful performance last night.

No point continuing to bash the team, so will look at the small positives, particularly for those not considered our elite.

1. Gold Coast are building very nicely chock a block with high end picks and multiple academy kids. They now have a premiership coach driving the bus. They have been rising for so long, we forget how long it takes.
2. Henry H showed quite a bit when he came on. Knows how to get his hands on the ball and will keep building with game time and acclimatization to the pace.
3. Meek was good yet again. That's 3 games on the trot.
3. Shammy showed a bit although well under the pump all night.
4. Not a huge game, but Ramma does show some tricks. Will get better as he develops. Good hands and endurance.
5. Dillan Moore should be captain. Busts his guts even when not in great form. More time in the midfield now I think until our mainstays get their mojo back.
6. Maybe Fin is a more versatile player than we think. He was hard at it last night and I enjoyed his physicality and player support.
7. Amon is class and will be a better player for us once we get some help around him. Creates space and opportunity.
8. Hard night for Frost but he still worked hard and tried to provide leadership.

We get a few back soon which changes the dynamic. I also feel Serong may get a stint soon and may surprise. Perhaps Morrison is also needed to add some maturity around the midfield. I haven't seen any review of the BH game, but have hopes for B Mac.

Also agree with others, we need to hit the draft for more high end talent. Its too early to throw big picks at players in trades. Hopeful one or two squad picks through via FA will help.
edit: sorry wrong thread

 

[nelk boys]

Our issues are with the midfield, another key forward and key back.

We need two more elite mids. One a dynamic outside mid. Another a bigger bodied grunt midfielder. Smillie, O'Sullivan and Draper are ones we should be watching closely.

If we get Baz, I would be very keen on Smillie. If we don't, its gotta be O'Sullivan.

The key back issue isn't going to be solved by Taylor. More chances than not it's going to be a Melican type.

I'm not sure how we answer our key forward issue. Theirs just such a lack of available options.

Finishing low this year might be a blessing, to really skyrocket in 2025.

By Round 1 2025

FB: Hardwick -Blanck - Sicily
HB: Impey - Melican - Scrim
C: Weddle - Smith - CJ
HF: Moore - Chol - McDonald
FF: Watson - Lewis - Ginnivan
R: Meek - Day - Newcombe
IC: Amon - Smillie - Worpel - Massimo, Mitchell

Emg: Nash, McKenzie, Ward, Ramma

 

[Wingnut19]

Our issues are with the midfield, another key forward and key back.

We need two more elite mids. One a dynamic outside mid. Another a bigger bodied grunt midfielder. Smillie, O'Sullivan and Draper are ones we should be watching closely.

If we get Baz, I would be very keen on Smillie. If we don't, its gotta be O'Sullivan.

The key back issue isn't going to be solved by Taylor. More chances than not it's going to be a Melican type.

I'm not sure how we answer our key forward issue. Theirs just such a lack of available options.

Finishing low this year might be a blessing, to really skyrocket in 2025.

By Round 1 2025

FB: Hardwick -Blanck - Sicily
HB: Impey - Melican - Scrim
C: Weddle - Smith - CJ
HF: Moore - Chol - McDonald
FF: Watson - Lewis - Ginnivan
R: Meek - Day - Newcombe
IC: Amon - Smillie - Worpel - Massimo, Mitchell

Emg: Nash, McKenzie, Ward, Ramma

Agree mostly, however as good as Worps has been I don't see the likes of him, Impey and Nash taking us to another level. We need more picks and Worpel is one I would put up for trade. Swap Ward for Worpel and Impey for Mackenzie and the side looks a whole lot better for the future. Be nice also to swap Melican for an Upgrade like Battle. Also I wouldn't rule out getting 3/4 more quality years from Wingard. Chol would then be the most obvious upgrade needed. Hopefully throw the bag at the next big FA fwd

 

[Topiary]

Hawk supporter as a kid

Would walk in and be our best mid, if not 2nd

Dogs a rabble

We would offer truckloads of $$$$


If Smith moves and DOESN'T come to us, that would be the one that hurts the most (McKay, Lynch, etc)

He wants success.

 

[fairdinks]

Agree mostly, however as good as Worps has been I don't see the likes of him, Impey and Nash taking us to another level. We need more picks and Worpel is one I would put up for trade. Swap Ward for Worpel and Impey for Mackenzie and the side looks a whole lot better for the future. Be nice also to swap Melican for an Upgrade like Battle. Also I wouldn't rule out getting 3/4 more quality years from Wingard. Chol would then be the most obvious upgrade needed. Hopefully throw the bag at the next big FA fwd

I can see ramma overtaking Chol by the time Chols contract is up.

 

[rei154]

He wants success.

I'd say post bye we'd need to show significant improvement for Smith to happen.

 

[earthworms]

With how our list is looking we will still be low on the ladder 2025 and probably 2026. We can't afford to trade away picks to acquire players to contend when the rest of the team isn't on the same level.

 

[Brant]

We shouldn’t be trading out high picks for anyone we aren’t at that stage of development despite what the club says they are wrong or its spin. I’m fine rebuilding but then let’s do it properly. Keep high picks find ways to get more. I will get slammed for this but I would trade Sicily to Sydney; he wins them a flag he would dominate at the SCG. They offered 2 first rounders for barrass last year let’s get those. Blanck comes back Serong is coming along nicely so we can cover and we desperately need more young talent. They have 11/19 this year we take 3/11/19 to the draft that would be a good start.

The 11 & 19 kills this idea.

If they want to buy a flag then they pay for it with 4 + 8 etc., not just whatever is in their back pocket at the time.

 

[I got the outside word]

We shouldn’t be trading out high picks for anyone we aren’t at that stage of development despite what the club says they are wrong or its spin. I’m fine rebuilding but then let’s do it properly. Keep high picks find ways to get more. I will get slammed for this but I would trade Sicily to Sydney; he wins them a flag he would dominate at the SCG. They offered 2 first rounders for barrass last year let’s get those. Blanck comes back Serong is coming along nicely so we can cover and we desperately need more young talent. They have 11/19 this year we take 3/11/19 to the draft that would be a good start.

Yes, let’s trade out more important experience in the team so we get even more lost on-field when things aren’t working out. We could try and get beaten by more and throw all the kids to the wolves. How’s McKays departure at North going?

 

[nelk boys]

Agree mostly, however as good as Worps has been I don't see the likes of him, Impey and Nash taking us to another level. We need more picks and Worpel is one I would put up for trade. Swap Ward for Worpel and Impey for Mackenzie and the side looks a whole lot better for the future. Be nice also to swap Melican for an Upgrade like Battle. Also I wouldn't rule out getting 3/4 more quality years from Wingard. Chol would then be the most obvious upgrade needed. Hopefully throw the bag at the next big FA fwd

Worpel was the second highest ranked player in the comp before last night. We'll keep him.

 

[Howe Amazing]

We shouldn’t be trading out high picks for anyone we aren’t at that stage of development despite what the club says they are wrong or its spin. I’m fine rebuilding but then let’s do it properly. Keep high picks find ways to get more. I will get slammed for this but I would trade Sicily to Sydney; he wins them a flag he would dominate at the SCG. They offered 2 first rounders for barrass last year let’s get those. Blanck comes back Serong is coming along nicely so we can cover and we desperately need more young talent. They have 11/19 this year we take 3/11/19 to the draft that would be a good start.

I would trade him if we get 2 first rounds

 

[2008wasoverDEW!]

Get Josh Battle

26

Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

for free, trade future first for Baz (explosive mid), take the best tall with our first pick. Add those to having Day, Lewis, Jiath, Watson and possibly Blanck back in the team and we will look significantly better.

Ideally we need to strengthen our Key posts. Last night we saw Gold Coast dominate us throughout the ground, but they also had King and Walter forward, and Collins, Ballard and Andrew down back causing us headaches.
Until this is addressed we are going to struggle.

 

[nelk boys]

I would trade him if we get 2 first rounds

What kind of 2 first rounds?

We would only consider if one was top 5 and another inside top 10.

Way more value for him to stay.

 

[Howe Amazing]

What kind of 2 first rounds?

We would only consider if one was top 5 and another inside top 10.

Way more value for him to stay.

He hasn’t been great this season has he

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We shouldn’t be trading out high picks for anyone we aren’t at that stage of development despite what the club says they are wrong or its spin. I’m fine rebuilding but then let’s do it properly. Keep high picks find ways to get more. I will get slammed for this but I would trade Sicily to Sydney; he wins them a flag he would dominate at the SCG. They offered 2 first rounders for barrass last year let’s get those. Blanck comes back Serong is coming along nicely so we can cover and we desperately need more young talent. They have 11/19 this year we take 3/11/19 to the draft that would be a good start.

You’re right you will get slammed for this, because we’ve already got people writing off 3 of our top 10 picks because they apparently “weren’t taken high enough in the draft” and now you’re advocating that we trade out our captain to get players at the back end of the first round.

Madness.

It’s like people watched North be really really shit for a really long time to the point that they had to get consecutive years of priority picks and thought “sure, let’s try to be that much a laughing stock too!”

 

[Howe Amazing]

Parfitt and Shannon Neale are two we should look at put pressure on Cats to pay up particularly for Neale

 

[Goatie]

I’m not sure why people are happy to trade our future first for Baz. This could be pick 3 for a player coming of an ACL and has off field issues.
We need to learn from our previous mistakes in regard to paying overs for O’Meara & Wingard.

Two second round picks would equate to a points value of a late first rounder which would be the right value.

 

[Billyc]

He wants success.

We are a very hard sell on that front. Will clock up 9 years without winning a final in a few months and look set for another bottom 4 finish. Players motivated by team success will go elsewhere. Money is our lure.

 

[daniel23]

We are a very hard sell on that front. Will clock up 9 years without winning a final in a few months and look set for another bottom 4 finish. Players motivated by team success will go elsewhere. Money is our lure.

Then you get the issue that they're only coming to us for the money and not to be part of the long term plan.

 

[HedgeFund]

You’re right you will get slammed for this, because we’ve already got people writing off 3 of our top 10 picks because they apparently “weren’t taken high enough in the draft” and now you’re advocating that we trade out our captain to get players at the back end of the first round.

Madness.

It’s like people watched North be really really s**t for a really long time to the point that they had to get consecutive years of priority picks and thought “sure, let’s try to be that much a laughing stock too!”

I’ll give you a bakers’ dozen reasons first round picks don’t guarantee a decent team / club.

McDonald - pick 8
Simpkin - pick 12
Corr - pick 14
Logue - Pick 8
Stephenson - pick 6
LDU - pick 4
Phillips - pick 3
Powell - pick 13
Sheezel - pick 3
Wardlaw - pick 4
Durrsma - pick 4
McKercher - pick 2
D. Stephens - pick 5

They’re current getting belted by 51 points at half time in Geelong.

It’s not where you pick them, it’s what you do with them once you’ve got them.

 

[FB19]

You’re right you will get slammed for this, because we’ve already got people writing off 3 of our top 10 picks because they apparently “weren’t taken high enough in the draft” and now you’re advocating that we trade out our captain to get players at the back end of the first round.

Madness.

It’s like people watched North be really really s**t for a really long time to the point that they had to get consecutive years of priority picks and thought “sure, let’s try to be that much a laughing stock too!”

Yeah 11/19 probably doesn’t cut it that’s fair enough. The actual point I tried to make point remains though; we need a lot more top end talent I believe via the draft and short of pick purchasing hard to see how we do it. I merely looked at who might have currency and the cupboard is quite bare. I am not one of those people to have written off all those top 10 picks but it’s right to have concerns at least over some.

 

[Billyc]

I’ll give you a bakers’ dozen reasons first round picks don’t guarantee a decent team / club.

McDonald - pick 8
Simpkin - pick 12
Corr - pick 14
Logue - Pick 8
Stephenson - pick 6
LDU - pick 4
Phillips - pick 3
Powell - pick 13
Sheezel - pick 3
Wardlaw - pick 4
Durrsma - pick 4
McKercher - pick 2
D. Stephens - pick 5

They’re current getting belted by 51 points at half time in Geelong.

It’s not where you pick them, it’s what you do with them once you’ve got them.

The side putting them to the sword right now illustrates the point further. Geelong’s player development is elite.

Player development is the real concern I have right now. Coaching is a part of that. Poor leadership within playing group for many years a big part too. Young players learn from their teammates. Getting drafted to a stronger side surrounded by quality leaders improves a player’s development.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I’ll give you a bakers’ dozen reasons first round picks don’t guarantee a decent team / club.

McDonald - pick 8
Simpkin - pick 12
Corr - pick 14
Logue - Pick 8
Stephenson - pick 6
LDU - pick 4
Phillips - pick 3
Powell - pick 13
Sheezel - pick 3
Wardlaw - pick 4
Durrsma - pick 4
McKercher - pick 2
D. Stephens - pick 5

They’re current getting belted by 51 points at half time in Geelong.

It’s not where you pick them, it’s what you do with them once you’ve got them.

And often what you surround them with, which is why I find the “let’s trade for draft picks and get more kid” such a falsehood.

 

[TylerDurden]

I’ll give you a bakers’ dozen reasons first round picks don’t guarantee a decent team / club.

McDonald - pick 8
Simpkin - pick 12
Corr - pick 14
Logue - Pick 8
Stephenson - pick 6
LDU - pick 4
Phillips - pick 3
Powell - pick 13
Sheezel - pick 3
Wardlaw - pick 4
Durrsma - pick 4
McKercher - pick 2
D. Stephens - pick 5

They’re current getting belted by 51 points at half time in Geelong.

It’s not where you pick them, it’s what you do with them once you’ve got them.

It's a great point. They are a beautiful set of numbers. It's got them nowhere.

 

[HedgeFund]

It's a great point. They are a beautiful set of numbers. It's got them nowhere.

Geelong’s line up has more 3rd / 4th rounders, rookies and category B listers than any other in the competition.

Exceptionally well coached and just a mature group which has enormous self belief. The product of sustained success.

You can’t manufacture that with a bunch of high draft picks.