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Considering our tall forwards without Lewis in the side have combined for a massive 2 goals from the last 19 we've kicked, I'd wager that the idea of trading Mitch hasn't even crossed Sam's or Mark Mackenzie's minds.

Unless, as I hypothesised today, we can convince Aaron Cadman to do a Tom Boyd and request a trade out of GWS.
 

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TheFourPillars said:
I think there are a few on here with that mentality
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It’s not the supporters fault. The system and the associated media coverage is set up to make supporters of bottom 4 teams pray for their team to lose. Even the clubs in the offseason try to trade their way to a higher draft pick that they could have had to start with if not for a meaningless win.
The system needs to change, as others have mentioned either a lottery of a play off amongst the bottom 4 teams for pick 1 could be a good solution. The AFL is too greedy to bring in a relegation so I can’t think of any other solutions. I remember last year one of the early rounds was being touted as Harley Reid cup. The media has full year round coverage of “generational talent” your club could miss out on to make the supporter cringe at wins.
All supporters want is for the club to have access to the best talent under a fair system so they can be competitive.
Don’t have a go at them!
 
bindas12 said:
It’s not the supporters fault. The system and the associated media coverage is set up to make supporters of bottom 4 teams pray for their team to lose. Even the clubs in the offseason try to trade their way to a higher draft pick that they could have had to start with if not for a meaningless win.
The system needs to change, as others have mentioned either a lottery of a play off amongst the bottom 4 teams for pick 1 could be a good solution. The AFL is too greedy to bring in a relegation so I can’t think of any other solutions. I remember last year one of the early rounds was being touted as Harley Reid cup. The media has full year round coverage of “generational talent” your club could miss out on to make the supporter cringe at wins.
All supporters want is for the club to have access to the best talent under a fair system so they can be competitive.
Don’t have a go at them!
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Two things. First I would I never want my team to lose. NEVER. Second no win is meaningless. Some wins have saved careers as recently as our Vice captain Dylan. Others have been a springboard to the new season next year. I wonder whether Fremantle should have just lost to us last year in the last round a meaningless win right?
 
excitingnews said:
Didn’t we get accused of tanking for doing this when we traded out much less significant players than Mitch Lewis?
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How does Lewis help us develop our young players. He has zero consistency in both being able to get on the park and to kick goals when playing.

If another club was silly enough to make a serious offer we should take it.
 
TheFourPillars said:
Two things. First I would I never want my team to lose. NEVER. Second no win is meaningless. Some wins have saved careers as recently as our Vice captain Dylan. Others have been a springboard to the new season next year. I wonder whether Fremantle should have just lost to us last year in the last round a meaningless win right?
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You may not want your team to ever lose, but I want my team to win premierships and the last time that happened was when we had access to amazing talent in the draft. The system necessities finishing at the bottom to get good talent in. Like it or not, that’s the system!
Our recruitment and development team is not as good as Geelongs so we DO NEED access to early draft picks.
 
HairyO said:
How does Lewis help us develop our young players. He has zero consistency in both being able to get on the park and to kick goals when playing.
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This is just straight up bullshit. Last year he played 15 games straight and kicked multiple goals in all but 4. That is consistent.

Yes, his injuries have been frustrating, but when he's only the park and confidence is up, he is kicking goals regularly.
 
bindas12 said:
You may not want your team to ever lose, but I want my team to win premierships and the last time that happened was when we had access to amazing talent in the draft. The system necessities finishing at the bottom to get good talent in. Like it or not, that’s the system!
Our recruitment and development team is not as good as Geelongs so we DO NEED access to early draft picks.
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I have seen 11 in my life time. Last time i checked to win premierships you need to win games mate. Losing games to get picks leaves you in the doldrums for many, many years. It is history. Carlton are a perfect example. Their gun players are pick 10 and pick 12 in the forward line. Yes Weitering is a pick 1 but May is not. It isn't essential. Geelong have an advantage more than just their development. Its their winning culture that attracts players like dangerfield and cameron and some of the players recently along with certain dodgy land deals. Its not the be all and end all because they haven't dominated by winning all of them premierships
 
Sixpence said:
This is just straight up bullshit. Last year he played 15 games straight and kicked multiple goals in all but 4. That is consistent.

Yes, his injuries have been frustrating, but when he's only the park and confidence is up, he is kicking goals regularly.
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So for half the season he kicked 2 + goals.

I think that makes my point, thanks.
 
The win didn't save Moore's career, his personal performance in the game did.

If we were given a priority pick it would be a huge help. I'd rather it not come to that. But if we bomb out the rest of the season and earn ourselves a bottom two spot, then how arrogant would we be to not accept as much help as we could get?

We've been hurt, rightly or wrongly, with FA compensation picks, F/S and Academy picks. Several years out of finals. Nine years since a finals win. We've been one of the worst three sides in the league for several years, and that will likely become bottom two alongside North by the end of the season.

The ultimate aim is to win Flags. How we get there doesn't matter.
 

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HairyO said:
How does Lewis help us develop our young players. He has zero consistency in both being able to get on the park and to kick goals when playing.

If another club was silly enough to make a serious offer we should take it.
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what pick or picks would you take for him?
 
Sixpence said:
You said he's inconsistent when he's on the park, he clearly isn't.

Staying on the park, that's a different story.
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6 games last year kicked more than 2 goals. And we are paying him I assume $650k to $700k or possibly more. Hopefully low base and large match payments.

Of the top 25 goal kickers last year only one played fewer than 20 games. It wasnt Lewis.

He simply is not the guy you want to spearhead a developing team.
 
ahhhhhh said:
Take it and run. He's 26 and can't get on the park.
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Take what and run? 😂

There’s not even an offer of a pick associated with the post.
 
Judd2Sewell said:
The win didn't save Moore's career, his personal performance in the game did.

If we were given a priority pick it would be a huge help. I'd rather it not come to that. But if we bomb out the rest of the season and earn ourselves a bottom two spot, then how arrogant would we be to not accept as much help as we could get?

We've been hurt, rightly or wrongly, with FA compensation picks, F/S and Academy picks. Several years out of finals. Nine years since a finals win. We've been one of the worst three sides in the league for several years, and that will likely become bottom two alongside North by the end of the season.

The ultimate aim is to win Flags. How we get there doesn't matter.
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Of course it was Moore's performance. However if we as a team were trying to lose? What sort of performance do u reckon Moorey would have had?
 
HairyO said:
6 games last year kicked more than 2 goals. And we are paying him I assume $650k to $700k or possibly more. Hopefully low base and large match payments.

Of the top 25 goal kickers last year only one played fewer than 20 games. It wasnt Lewis.

He simply is not the guy you want to spearhead a developing team.
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He had the eighth highest goals per game last year, his issue was the games played, not what he produced when playing.

Had he played the full season, he would have kicked close to 60 goals. That it a good return for a Key Forward.

You are simply incorrect.
 
TheFourPillars said:
Of course it was Moore's performance. However if we as a team were trying to lose? What sort of performance do u reckon Moorey would have had?
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Moore surely knew it was then or never coming into that game.

You reckon he'd have deliberately put in a stinker even if Clarko told the team it had to lose? Knowing full well that it would be his last ever game? He'd have played out of his skin no matter what.
 
perrdan86 said:
What a sh*t trade that would be.. You're not actually being serious are you?
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What does he offer a developing team ?

Moral support from the sidelines ? Leadership with the rehab group ?

In 7 seasons he hasnt gone more than 15 games.

If he was the tip of the spear at another team we would be mocking them.
 
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