List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

[Mat Mann]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Trade/Draft periods

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.

 

[Remboy]

Free agents or death mofos.

That should be the new club motto.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Oh god. Why come here and stir up trouble. Now we have pages full of garbage. Can we create an oppo thread and they can just go in there and do their very worst. Any defensive Saints supporters can go there and also do their worst. Leaves actual discussions in here.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Oh god. Why come here and stir up trouble. Now we have pages full of garbage. Can we create an oppo thread and they can just go in there and do their very worst. Any defensive Saints supporters can go there and also do their worst. Leaves actual discussions in here.

I think we already have a place

 

[akaifu]

Hi Saints fans, I come in peace I promise! Firstly a shame about Brad Crouch. Never fulfilled immense talent mainly due to injuries. Crows fans thought he was another Dangerfield when we first got him.

Why am I here? Value your quick thoughts on following

Having a discussion on Crows board re your likely targeting of elite players with your reported war chest. My view is Saints have drafted exceptionally well in recent years and now a handful of likely/probable elite young players like NWM and Philippou.

Some on Crows board thing you would be tempted to give up these 2 star youngsters and swap them to get Butters end of 2025 with a Power trade (someone even suggested, I assume in jest, you may need to also throw in a first round draft pick..)

My view is NO WAY would Saints do this deal giving up both especially with Butters a Restricted Free Agent end of 2026. So wait one more year, pay the big $$ (1.25-1.4m? which is huge money but he is a top 10 player in the league) and get him for free re trade collateral

Your views? Assuming you really wanted Butters - most clubs would - would you entertain releasing these 2 too 10 ish type draft picks that are on the way to stardom for Butters end of 2025? Or wait one more year and see (with a risk of not getting Butters then) and try end of 2026?

I could imagine you releasing ONE of them for Butters perhaps with some draft picks chucked in but certainly not both.

Thanks for your time and any thoughts. Good luck for next year and see you in round one, cheers

PS re NWM, one Saints poster recently was quoted saying he wasn’t confident he would stay with Saints past 2025. My view is he will likely cost any team acquiring (eg Crows or Power) 2 x first rounders with perhaps a second coming back. He is going to be a real star that lad

No way

Phillipou looks like he's projecting to be even better than Butters within the next 2 years. I'd find it hard to entertain a straight swap between them, let alone adding in Nas who looks like he'll be the best half back in the comp soon

We also have Garcia who is training the house down (genuinely...not just from a biased nuff's perspective) and would play a similar role to what Butters would in our midfield so its not like we are overly desperate to get him to the point we'd be giving up crucial cogs of our future

I think we'll target him for either RFA or for something like 2x FRDP + more, but certainly not for Pou or Nas

 

[snails13]

I see St Kilda have invited our gun ruckman to train with you for the SPP position now that Crouch has retired.

Saints target SANFL ruck following midfielder's retirement

Brad Crouch's retirement opens a list spot for St Kilda

www.afl.com.au

He is a Victorian who was playing for Norwood not the Crows

 

[crows dude]

He is a Victorian who was playing for Norwood not the Crows

I know that. I am a Norwood supporter. Boyds the best player in the SANFL and someone we cant afford to lose. Good on him though if he gets an AFL chance.

 

[King_Steele]

I know that. I am a Norwood supporter. Boyds the best player in the SANFL and someone we cant afford to lose. Good on him though if he gets an AFL chance.

Is he AFL quality in your opinion?

 

[SteeleSaints]

I know that. I am a Norwood supporter. Boyds the best player in the SANFL and someone we cant afford to lose. Good on him though if he gets an AFL chance.

Doesn't say much about the SANFL then does it....

 

[SainterinSydney]

Hi Saints fans, I come in peace I promise! Firstly a shame about Brad Crouch. Never fulfilled immense talent mainly due to injuries. Crows fans thought he was another Dangerfield when we first got him.

Why am I here? Value your quick thoughts on following

Having a discussion on Crows board re your likely targeting of elite players with your reported war chest. My view is Saints have drafted exceptionally well in recent years and now a handful of likely/probable elite young players like NWM and Philippou.

Some on Crows board thing you would be tempted to give up these 2 star youngsters and swap them to get Butters end of 2025 with a Power trade (someone even suggested, I assume in jest, you may need to also throw in a first round draft pick..)

My view is NO WAY would Saints do this deal giving up both especially with Butters a Restricted Free Agent end of 2026. So wait one more year, pay the big $$ (1.25-1.4m? which is huge money but he is a top 10 player in the league) and get him for free re trade collateral

Your views? Assuming you really wanted Butters - most clubs would - would you entertain releasing these 2 too 10 ish type draft picks that are on the way to stardom for Butters end of 2025? Or wait one more year and see (with a risk of not getting Butters then) and try end of 2026?

I could imagine you releasing ONE of them for Butters perhaps with some draft picks chucked in but certainly not both.

Thanks for your time and any thoughts. Good luck for next year and see you in round one, cheers

PS re NWM, one Saints poster recently was quoted saying he wasn’t confident he would stay with Saints past 2025. My view is he will likely cost any team acquiring (eg Crows or Power) 2 x first rounders with perhaps a second coming back. He is going to be a real star that lad

We will offer Pou and Nas so much money that you'll only be able to afford SANFL players to fill out the rest of your list if they went to the Crows.

 

[King_Steele]

We will offer Pou and Nas so much money that you'll only be able to afford SANFL players to fill out the rest of your list if they went to the Crows.

I’d argue that’s already happening with the likes of McHenry & Murphy lol

 

[EconomicDecline]

Hi Saints fans, I come in peace I promise! Firstly a shame about Brad Crouch. Never fulfilled immense talent mainly due to injuries. Crows fans thought he was another Dangerfield when we first got him.

Why am I here? Value your quick thoughts on following

Having a discussion on Crows board re your likely targeting of elite players with your reported war chest. My view is Saints have drafted exceptionally well in recent years and now a handful of likely/probable elite young players like NWM and Philippou.

Some on Crows board thing you would be tempted to give up these 2 star youngsters and swap them to get Butters end of 2025 with a Power trade (someone even suggested, I assume in jest, you may need to also throw in a first round draft pick..)

My view is NO WAY would Saints do this deal giving up both especially with Butters a Restricted Free Agent end of 2026. So wait one more year, pay the big $$ (1.25-1.4m? which is huge money but he is a top 10 player in the league) and get him for free re trade collateral

Your views? Assuming you really wanted Butters - most clubs would - would you entertain releasing these 2 too 10 ish type draft picks that are on the way to stardom for Butters end of 2025? Or wait one more year and see (with a risk of not getting Butters then) and try end of 2026?

I could imagine you releasing ONE of them for Butters perhaps with some draft picks chucked in but certainly not both.

Thanks for your time and any thoughts. Good luck for next year and see you in round one, cheers

PS re NWM, one Saints poster recently was quoted saying he wasn’t confident he would stay with Saints past 2025. My view is he will likely cost any team acquiring (eg Crows or Power) 2 x first rounders with perhaps a second coming back. He is going to be a real star that lad

Butters. Great player. Absolute flog. Wouldn't give one of Nas or Pou for him.

 

[austinnn]

Hi Saints fans, I come in peace I promise! Firstly a shame about Brad Crouch. Never fulfilled immense talent mainly due to injuries. Crows fans thought he was another Dangerfield when we first got him.

Why am I here? Value your quick thoughts on following

Having a discussion on Crows board re your likely targeting of elite players with your reported war chest. My view is Saints have drafted exceptionally well in recent years and now a handful of likely/probable elite young players like NWM and Philippou.

Some on Crows board thing you would be tempted to give up these 2 star youngsters and swap them to get Butters end of 2025 with a Power trade (someone even suggested, I assume in jest, you may need to also throw in a first round draft pick..)

My view is NO WAY would Saints do this deal giving up both especially with Butters a Restricted Free Agent end of 2026. So wait one more year, pay the big $$ (1.25-1.4m? which is huge money but he is a top 10 player in the league) and get him for free re trade collateral

Your views? Assuming you really wanted Butters - most clubs would - would you entertain releasing these 2 too 10 ish type draft picks that are on the way to stardom for Butters end of 2025? Or wait one more year and see (with a risk of not getting Butters then) and try end of 2026?

I could imagine you releasing ONE of them for Butters perhaps with some draft picks chucked in but certainly not both.

Thanks for your time and any thoughts. Good luck for next year and see you in round one, cheers

PS re NWM, one Saints poster recently was quoted saying he wasn’t confident he would stay with Saints past 2025. My view is he will likely cost any team acquiring (eg Crows or Power) 2 x first rounders with perhaps a second coming back. He is going to be a real star that lad

Yep, you can tell your board that the chances of Pou moving back to Adelaide are as remote as us letting him go. Once you've been to Paris, you can never go back to the farm, as they say. That young bloke absolutely loves the club and may very well be captain one day. Nas might be possible but very unlikely imo and as you said very expensive. He's one our MVPs already.

We have quite a few SA kids at the club now but I think they're all very happy at St Kilda. We rarely have guys wanting out.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Doesn't say much about the SANFL then does it....

From Sheppherton to best player in the SAFL.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Harry Boyd - 198cm 108 kg's

Shane Mumford - 198 cm 105 kgs

People making lots of comments about his lack of spring. New ruck rules introduced last year allowing straight arm blocks specifically introduced to allow bigger less mobile rucks to still be able to play the game.

Can see Harry doing a lot of this





For what its worth - O'Brien won this contest and gave a Matt Crouch an uncontested clearance.

 

[seasonedsainter]

Harry Boyd - 198cm 108 kg's

Shane Mumford - 198 cm 105 kgs

People making lots of comments about his lack of spring. New ruck rules introduced last year allowing straight arm blocks specifically introduced to allow bigger less mobile rucks to still be able to play the game.

Can see Harry doing a lot of this

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For what its worth - O'Brien won this contest and gave a Matt Crouch an uncontested clearance.

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[Anythings_sipposible]

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#BoydBloxRux

 

[goodie23]

Crows board seem to think we're a feeder club for them. Some believe that Phillipou, NWM, Keeler and Dodson are all owed to them because they were born in SA.

Hopefully they all have long careers with us.

We've all got our own delusions. Sounds like theirs is the idea that players want to return to Adelaide.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

We've all got our own delusions. Sounds like theirs is the idea that players want to return to Adelaide.

Paul Kelly, the singer , was born in Adelaide.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

We've all got our own delusions. Sounds like theirs is the idea that players want to return to Adelaide.

Paul Kelly, the singer , was born in Adelaide.

Indeed


“All the king’s horses, all the king’s men
Wouldn’t drag me back again
To Adelaide, Adelaide, Adelaide, Adelaide”

 

[True Believer]

Paul Kelly, the singer , was born in Adelaide.

You can''t hold that against him......

 

[True Believer]

Paul Kelly, the singer , was born in Adelaide.

Right - and enough of his family ended up in jail that he started writing songs about it!!!

 

[dudeintheswamp]

I want to see the sun go down
From St Kilda Esplanade
Where the beach needs reconstruction
Where the palm trees have it hard
I'd give you all of Sydney Harbour (all that land, all that water)
For that one sweet promenade

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Banga Harvey speaks?
Welcome to you Harry Boyd
Boyd speaks
Thanks Banga
Banga speaks
You're a big boy 108kg, yeah.
Boyd speaks, yep
Banga speaks
One thing over all things, I need you to do
Boyd speaks
What's that thing Banga, I'll do it for sure, you're a legend.
Banga speaks
Smash em Boydy.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Indeed


“All the king’s horses, all the king’s men
Wouldn’t drag me back again
To Adelaide, Adelaide, Adelaide, Adelaide”

I thought someone might make that link

 

[Saints TV]

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