List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Taylor]

I can think of two players in the last ten years who weren't picked for the All Australian side but won a brownlow medal.

But Taberner is clearly and obviously the best tall forward we have had since Pavlich, until Amiss and now Treacy.

 

[guidodp15]

I love when nuffies use this excuse. It makes 0% sense. Good work mate

23 game season with 20 minute quarters > 17 game season 16 minute quarters. Its not the same thing

 

[Taylor]

23 game season with 20 minute quarters > 17 game season 16 minute quarters. Its not the same thing

Everyone else in the league also played to those conditions.

 

[mike91]

23 game season with 20 minute quarters > 17 game season 16 minute quarters. Its not the same thing

Gee whiz mate, honestly.

This is actually embarrassing from you now

 

[Docker82]

He had some good seasons with us, but you're too close minded to even acknowledge it. It's a shame really, because you've decided any covid season doesn't count, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

Caleb Serong never won the rising star because 2020 didn’t count. Same logic but if I was posting this seriously suddenly 2020 does actually count.

I’m a bit late to this conversation but I cannot understand how anyone is actually disagreeing with you.

Taberner was AFL standard, especially from 2019 to early 2022, and anyone that says otherwise is a moron like you said.

He shouldn’t be playing for us in 2024 but that’s not a reason to go and post inaccurate statements regarding Taberner on this board.

 

[s_wd6]

All the Tabs talk is ignoring that he was going at almost 3 goals a game before getting injured the next year. It wasn’t just 2020 and done. It was a decent two year period where everything finally clicked that got cut short by injuries.

 

[dont bowl there]

He had some good seasons with us, but you're too close minded to even acknowledge it. It's a shame really, because you've decided any covid season doesn't count, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

He had A good season when the conditions were nothing like a normal season. I can admit he had a good season, but he has been on the list for 12, so I am also pretty comfortable saying he was poor to average for his career.

 

[Joao]

Treacy ain't making AA having missed the last 3 games. He was borderline for the squad as it was, he's no chance now.

 

[Boomer93]

Is it considered a deep draft this year? Cal Twomey saying there are lots of players who could potentially go pick 1 to me suggests it's a mediocre draft that lacks star power?

The draft lacks some absoloute star power like reid or JHF, but it's is very deep with top 15 level players of past years going deep in to the 30s apparently.

 

[go_the_dockers]

The draft lacks some absoloute star power like reid or JHF, but it's is very deep with top 15 level players of past years going deep in to the 30s apparently.

Sounds like a great draft to have some picks in the first 30.

 

[Boomer93]

Sounds like a great draft to have some picks in the first 30.

True, but the positive side to this is our picks are worth more in trades as well.

 

[Taylor]

Treacy ain't making AA having missed the last 3 games. He was borderline for the squad as it was, he's no chance now.

I think he's the best score assist player of those high on the Coleman list. You can make a case for him to be in a side.

 

[Joao]

I think he's the best score assist player of those high on the Coleman list. You can make a case for him to be in a side.

Less the WA tax and he's no chance.

 

[Docker82]

I think he's the best score assist player of those high on the Coleman list. You can make a case for him to be in a side.

He plays for Freo... They'll be making whatever case they can for him not to be in the side.

 

[Van_Dyke]

All the Tabs talk is ignoring that he was going at almost 3 goals a game before getting injured the next year. It wasn’t just 2020 and done. It was a decent two year period where everything finally clicked that got cut short by injuries.

both 2018 and 2019 he got going with some really good form before he did his foot both times. from 2018 - 2022 when his body allowed him to get out there he was a really good option for us, right until his back/hip issues brought everything to a halt in 2022 around the Melbourne game and he's never been the same since.

typing that out, our mehish form in 22 coincides with his injury issues coming to ahead doesn't.

 

[yakamoto]

I wonder how many games Tabs played in the same side as Pav. That would have been a huge handicap given the Pav centric setup of the forward line in those days.

 

[FreoRicci]

He made a squad of 40 in the shortened covid season where he kicked 16 goals. Nothing in that season counts. He has never been a good footballer.

He was, but injuries were cruel to him. When he got consistently on the park, he would perform. He didn’t have muscular injuries, rather stress fractures and back due to overtraining/ running early every pre season.
He’s a Rookie ffs. If Zac Clarke had his work ethic, then he would’ve been 10x the player he was, but unfortunately not all AFL players do.

 

[FreoRicci]

If those stats were over 6 or 7 years you could say he was good. But those 173 goals and 125 games took 12 seasons of football to achieve. The fact he couldn't stay on the park hurt the side immensely when trying to build a competent and consistent forward line.

Blame the list management. Treacy, Amiss and Jackson is probably the most talented young forward line the club has ever had in 30 years. That’s an indictment

 

[Taylor]

I wonder how many games Tabs played in the same side as Pav. That would have been a huge handicap given the Pav centric setup of the forward line in those days.

If my numbers are right then Pav and Tabs played 37 games together with Tabs kicking 30 goals in that time - interesting to note that during the last season (2016) where Tabs played 14 games for 11 goals with Pav in the team - the round 12 game that year that Pavlich didn't play against the Lions was where Taberner kicked five goals.

So I think you're spot on. Pavlich did tend to focus our attack through him.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Lol, so they chose Tabs.

So instead they decided to bring in Tabs. Cool.

Choosing Tabs shows you how they rate Reidy internally. They thought a broken down past his prime Tabs was the better option... We need to stop talking about this. Reidy must be nowhere near it.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Tabs might not have been the most talented player but he worked his ass off and had a solid career for us when you consider where he came from. Great servant for our club. Put some respect on the mans name.

 

[silverscope]

Wonder of Neale wants to come Home* once the next Ashcroft is drafted

 

[MadMundy]

Taberner may not be much use anymore but to say he stole a career and wasted a list spot is ridiculous, he had his limits, but we used those limits to the best of his ability, when he managed to stay on the park he was a solid to good key forward, injuries definitely plagued him especially in 2018 and 2019, I felt like he was poised for something good in those years but injuries were cruel.

Should he be playing nowadays? Not at all, but to say he was bad is objectively false, who would you have preferred? Shane Kersten

Shane Kersten

Age

31

Ht

191cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.4

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

188.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.6

4star

?

 

[Docker82]

Taberner may not be much use anymore but to say he stole a career and wasted a list spot is ridiculous, he had his limits, but we used those limits to the best of his ability, when he managed to stay on the park he was a solid to good key forward, injuries definitely plagued him especially in 2018 and 2019, I felt like he was poised for something good in those years but injuries were cruel.

Should he be playing nowadays? Not at all, but to say he was bad is objectively false, who would you have preferred? Shane Kersten?

Lol. We actually preferred Kersten for a bit there. Took us twelve months to turn him into a defender.

 

[MadMundy]

Lol. We actually preferred Kersten for a bit there. Took us twelve months to turn him into a defender.

Kersten went okay in his first season, but for some reason we decided we only need two key forwards with McCarthy and Kersten instead of running 3 talls with Taberner with them, I think they probably would have done okay.