List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading

[Mostyn]

RE-SIGN
Keays
Cook
Burgess
Walker
Borlase
Gollant
Berry

RETIRE
Smith
Sloane

TRADE/DELIST
Himmelberg
Bond
McHenry
Sholl
Parnell
Hamill

Eight list changes, which is a LOT.

We take someone in the midseason draft.

We take a pick in the top six - best available mid.

We trade our future first into this year and get Petty. We sign Heyward as a FA. We look for a depth delisted player.

We use the Melbourne 2nd and our third on points for Welsh.

We take two additional kids later.

Honestly, I'd probably listen to WCE if they wanted to talk Curtin again, but I assume he'll have lost value by then.

 

[tiger_tough]

McAuliffe to debut in home state

Kane McAuliffe will make his AFL debut in his home state of South Australia this weekend.

www.richmondfc.com.au

Haven't been this excited for a debut since D. Martin.

 

[Pugsley]

Proven big game player, right age , SA boy , so ticks a few boxes .
Is he a free agent ? If so I hope we are making enquires .

Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Redleg Crow]

Our players 24yrs and older:

Dawson is the only one who can still be elite (Sorry Tex, last year was the swansong)

Butts and Keane and (if I squint enough) Fogarty are the only others I can see playing in a side good enough to challenge for a prelim.

Name	Games	Age
Sloane, Rory	255​	34yr
Walker, Taylor	263​	33yr 11mth
Smith, Brodie	251​	32yr 2mth
Laird, Rory	228​	30yr 3mth
Crouch, Matt	147​	28yr 11mth
O'Brien, Reilly	104​	28yr 7mth
Strachan, Kieran	5​	28yr 6mth
Burgess, Chris	40​	28yr 4mth
Keays, Ben	117​	27yr 1mth
Dawson, Jordan	113​	26yr 11mth
Milera, Wayne	99​	26yr 6mth
Himmelberg, Elliott	41​	25yr 10mth
Hinge, Mitchell	47​	25yr 9mth
Murphy, Lachlan	101​	25yr 4mth
Fogarty, Darcy	83​	24yr 6mth
Butts, Jordon	63​	24yr 3mth
Jones, Chayce	80​	24yr 2mth
Sholl, Lachlan	56​	24yr
Keane, Mark R	13​	24yr

 

[Redleg Crow]

Our players under 24 (who have played a game)

Ned, Berry, Harry and Parnell are the only ones I never want to see play for us agan. I think Cook and Nank showed some good things last night.

Rankine, Izak	72​	23yr 11mth
McHenry, Ned	63​	23yr 8mth
Hamill, Will R	38​	23yr 4mth
Murray, Nick	46​	23yr 3mth
Schoenberg, Harry	57​	23yr 1mth
Worrell, Josh	21​	22yr 11mth
Gollant, Lachlan	13​	22yr 6mth
Berry, Sam	42​	22yr 1mth
Parnell, Patrick R	17​	22yr 1mth
Pedlar, Luke	29​	21yr 10mth
Thilthorpe, Riley	46​	21yr 8mth
Cook, Brayden	13​	21yr 8mth
Borlase, James R	6​	21yr 8mth
Soligo, Jake	41​	21yr 2mth
Rachele, Josh	38​	20yr 11mth
Nankervis, Luke	5​	20yr 10mth
Michalanney, Max	26​	20yr 1mth

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Our players 24yrs and older:

Dawson is the only one who can still be elite (Sorry Tex, last year was the swansong)

Butts and Keane and (if I squint enough) Fogarty are the only others I can see playing in a side good enough to challenge for a prelim.

Name	Games	Age
Sloane, Rory	255​	34yr
Walker, Taylor	263​	33yr 11mth
Smith, Brodie	251​	32yr 2mth
Laird, Rory	228​	30yr 3mth
Crouch, Matt	147​	28yr 11mth
O'Brien, Reilly	104​	28yr 7mth
Strachan, Kieran	5​	28yr 6mth
Burgess, Chris	40​	28yr 4mth
Keays, Ben	117​	27yr 1mth
Dawson, Jordan	113​	26yr 11mth
Milera, Wayne	99​	26yr 6mth
Himmelberg, Elliott	41​	25yr 10mth
Hinge, Mitchell	47​	25yr 9mth
Murphy, Lachlan	101​	25yr 4mth
Fogarty, Darcy	83​	24yr 6mth
Butts, Jordon	63​	24yr 3mth
Jones, Chayce	80​	24yr 2mth
Sholl, Lachlan	56​	24yr
Keane, Mark R	13​	24yr

Still cannot believe Chayce Jones has played 80 AFL games.... Struth.

 

[Redleg Crow]

Still cannot believe Chayce Jones has played 80 AFL games.... Struth.

I was one who kept hoping for him... but nope.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Yep, played Under 18s together for SA in 2017. Fog then taken at Pick 12 that year (fell to pick 12 due largely to a poor National Champs). Petty, who was SA’s MVP at the Championships, was a major bargain for the Dees at Pick 37.

Dees also picked up Fritsch at Pick 31, who was considered a complete bolter at the time. What an amazing set of picks in the 30s.

Pick 31 was traded to them for Jack Watts

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We probably should be making our 2025 team look like this:

B: Michalanney, Murray, Worrell
HB: Hinge, Keane, Curtin
C: Dowling, Dawson, Nankervis
HF: Rachele, Fogarty, Rankine
F: Hayward, Thilthorpe, ? (assuming Walker retires)
R: ROB, Crouch, Soligo
I/C: Milera, Pedlar, Jones (maybe Edwards), FRP mid
Sub: Keays (interchangeable with Peds depending on form, Cook also competing for a spot with these two)

In this ideal world, we move on Laird, but we unfortunately don’t live in an ideal world, so they’ll make a spot for him somewhere. I doubt we try to upgrade on ROB next year, despite his horrendous marking efforts this year

Any half-decent OOC third talls that could fit in the ? spot? The only one that comes to mind for me is Reef McInnes. Of course you could play Welsh R1 if he’s ready, too

Edit: only put in Hayward as a recruit as I reckon he’s the most realistic

? = Welsh

 

[skam85]

? = Welsh

Have to try him for a season as a KPD in the SANFL first

 

[Crow till I die]

RE-SIGN
Keays
Cook
Burgess
Walker
Borlase
Gollant
Berry

RETIRE
Smith
Sloane

TRADE/DELIST
Himmelberg
Bond
McHenry
Sholl
Parnell
Hamill

Eight list changes, which is a LOT.

We take someone in the midseason draft.

We take a pick in the top six - best available mid.

We trade our future first into this year and get Petty. We sign Heyward as a FA. We look for a depth delisted player.

We use the Melbourne 2nd and our third on points for Welsh.

We take two additional kids later.

Honestly, I'd probably listen to WCE if they wanted to talk Curtin again, but I assume he'll have lost value by then.

If we finish bottom 5, then i would be ok with trying to bundle up our st with our f1 to get the very best mid available in the draft

 

[STrAng3C1oUdZ]

If our list management team have any idea we should be doing something like this.

Welsh- FS
Michalanney Jr - FS
2024 1st - Best Mid available
2025 1st and 2024 2nd - Available for trade for a really good player.

They should also put offers to all of the following free agents, not saying they are all stars but they are a free hit and are better than what we currently have.

FA
Jarrod Berry

7

Jarrod Berry

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.1

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

- Bris
Hugh McCluggage

6

Hugh Mccluggage

Age

26

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.3

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

19.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

- Bris
Andrew McGrath

1

Andrew Mcgrath

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

1.2

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

219.0

4star

- Ess
Jake Kolodjashnij - Gee
Ben Ainsworth

9

Ben Ainsworth

Age

26

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.3

2star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

- GC
Darcy Macpherson

44

Darcy Macpherson

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.1

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.9

5star

MG

187.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

137.3

2star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.8

5star

MG

113.6

2star

- GC
Isaac Cumming

13

Isaac Cumming

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

MG

158.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

158.0

3star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.6

4star

- GWS
Harry Perryman

36

Harry Perryman

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.8

4star

MG

216.2

3star

D

18.5

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

7.9

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

301.3

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

83.2

2star

- GWS
Blake Hardwick

15

Blake Hardwick

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

264.7

4star

D

13.8

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.7

3star

MG

264.7

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

4star

- Haw
Harry Morrison

1

Harry Morrison

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

13.4

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

18.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

- Haw
Conor Nash

11

Conor Nash

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.8

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.1

5star

CL

0.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.2

2star

- Haw
Cam Zurhaar - NM
Ollie Florent - Syd
Will Hayward

9

Will Hayward

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

9.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

- Syd
Tim English - WB

Again we may only land 1 or 2 of them but they are a free hit that doesn't cost us anything except cap space and all would be an improvement what we currently have.

 

[Danger in Texas]

If our list management team have any idea we should be doing something like this.

Welsh- FS
Michalanney Jr - FS
2024 1st - Best Mid available
2025 1st and 2024 2nd - Available for trade for a really good player.

They should also put offers to all of the following free agents, not saying they are all stars but they are a free hit and are better than what we currently have.

FA
Jarrod Berry - Bris
Hugh McCluggage - Bris
Andrew McGrath - Ess
Jake Kolodjashnij - Gee
Ben Ainsworth - GC
Darcy Macpherson - GC
Isaac Cumming - GWS
Harry Perryman - GWS
Blake Hardwick - Haw
Harry Morrison - Haw
Conor Nash - Haw
Cam Zurhaar - NM
Ollie Florent - Syd
Will Hayward - Syd
Tim English - WB

Again we may only land 1 or 2 of them but they are a free hit that doesn't cost us anything except cap space and all would be an improvement what we currently have.

Wouldn’t be dead set on trading the 2025 1st if the right player doesn’t come up. I’m not sure teams wouldn’t be dead set on our 2024 1st instead, anyway (ie Rankine)

 

[STrAng3C1oUdZ]

Wouldn’t be dead set on trading the 2025 1st if the right player doesn’t come up. I’m not sure teams wouldn’t be dead set on our 2024 1st instead, anyway (ie Rankine)

I agree but I think we have to hold firm and tell clubs it has to be the 2025 1st.

We have to use our 2024 1st to draft a mid.

 

[1990crow]

If our list management team have any idea we should be doing something like this.

Welsh- FS
Michalanney Jr - FS
2024 1st - Best Mid available
2025 1st and 2024 2nd - Available for trade for a really good player.

They should also put offers to all of the following free agents, not saying they are all stars but they are a free hit and are better than what we currently have.

FA
Jarrod Berry - Bris
Hugh McCluggage - Bris
Andrew McGrath - Ess
Jake Kolodjashnij - Gee
Ben Ainsworth - GC
Darcy Macpherson - GC
Isaac Cumming - GWS
Harry Perryman - GWS
Blake Hardwick - Haw
Harry Morrison - Haw
Conor Nash - Haw
Cam Zurhaar - NM
Ollie Florent - Syd
Will Hayward - Syd
Tim English - WB

Again we may only land 1 or 2 of them but they are a free hit that doesn't cost us anything except cap space and all would be an improvement what we currently have.

Nothing suggesting Michalanney junior is worth drafting.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I agree but I think we have to hold firm and tell clubs it has to be the 2025 1st.

We have to use our 2024 1st to draft a mid.

I also think we need a mid (this year’s draft’s top end is flush with them), but in that case I’d just hold both picks and focus on FAs this off-season. Very rare that bottom 10 teams are able to trade future picks for players, IIRC (opposing clubs want the certainty of a good pick)

Lots of good OOC players in 2025 to use that first on, anyway

 

[STrAng3C1oUdZ]

Nothing suggesting Michalanney junior is worth drafting.

He's a free hit as a FS and only takes alist spot I'd rather have him and see if he develops over say a Murphy or Mchenry

 

[FR0GGY]

Nothing suggesting Michalanney junior is worth drafting.

Did max show much?

 

[hugecannon]

I’d love to trade our F1 into the first round this year, 2 top 10 picks on
Mids this year

 

[STrAng3C1oUdZ]

I also think we need a mid (this year’s draft’s top end is flush with them), but in that case I’d just hold both picks and focus on FAs this off-season. Very rare that bottom 10 teams are able to trade future picks for players, IIRC (opposing clubs want the certainty of a good pick)

Lots of good OOC players in 2025 to use that first on, anyway

I think we make the pick available for trade, but it has to be the right deal for us otherwise I agree hold the pick

 

[1990crow]

Did max show much?

Way more.

 

[Moe Ron]

Watching Rozee, Butters and Horne tear up Essendon tonight was...well just dang

 

[Dangerousfield]

Watching Rozee, Butters and Horne tear up Essendon tonight was...well just dang

A midfield full of guns for the next decade, what a luxury, it's set and forget. Port can now concentrate on all the other other pieces in drafts and trades

 

[woofsson]

If we finish bottom 5, then i would be ok with trying to bundle up our st with our f1 to get the very best mid available in the draft

This implies that we are capable of identifying the best mid in the draft. History is littered with such errors.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I doubt we can bring in any mature aged midfielder witht our 1st pick that projects as high as the top end midfielders in this draft which is laden at the top end.

Yeah the potential of the players in that top bracket is tough to pass on

That’s the way I’d hope we go, then hope the club capitalises on that potential