Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

When I look at that lust my first thought was ...."most of those blokes mentioned above have one thing in common - apart from footy ability and no it isnt the so called 'speed' "- only two of those blokes are genuinely fast.

Are we trying to pick a 2nd Brownlow medallist or are we trying to pick a player who will compliment our current one and be a star in their own right in the future?

This is like the reverse Dodoro. He was allergic to picking anyone who wasn't a flanker or small agile mid despite the fact they've been needing a big body bull for years and years. The result - 20+ years of rubbish.

Some of this board seem hell bent on stacking us with the biggest tractors the AFL has ever seen despite knowing our team operates at the speed of one of those century old tortoises moping around at the zoo.

Honestly we could do with some Dodoro right now. Quality flankers and small agile mids are what this list is crying out for to balance it out.

 

[GT619]

Posted this earlier, we are 1 of the 4 clubs he follows (Blues, Dees, Tigers and Freo)

Dunno if it means anything at all

probably not. but I got bored

 

[zeeCFC]

Are we trying to pick a 2nd Brownlow medallist or are we trying to pick a player who will compliment our current one and be a star in their own right in the future?

This is like the reverse Dodoro. He was allergic to picking anyone who wasn't a flanker or small agile mid despite the fact they've been needing a big body bull for years and years. The result - 20+ years of rubbish.

Some of this board seem hell bent on stacking us with the biggest tractors the AFL has ever seen despite knowing our team operates at the speed of one of those century old tortoises moping around at the zoo.

Honestly we could do with some Dodoro right now. Quality flankers and small agile mids are what this list is crying out for to balance it out.

Our quick players also never really use it to their advantage. Saad only rarely does it now. When we put Cincotta in the midfield we all of a sudden looked much better.

It's likely our contested and territory game plan that does this to us, we need to trust the squad beyond Cripps, Acres and Walsh to do our attacking.

🕯 Billy Wilson break out year 🕯

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Our quick players also never really use it to their advantage. Saad only rarely does it now. When we put Cincotta in the midfield we all of a sudden looked much better.



🕯 Billy Wilson break out year 🕯

Would love to see Wilson have a big year. He's got the exact traits I see us missing currently. Built like a matchstick however, hoping to see some pics of him in pre season to see if he's bulked up a bit

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Kicking.

Sure

 

[Bale Dup]

Doc, Wilson and Lord will be the midfield rotations for 2025 along with Pick 3.

Ben Campo could push past Lord if developed right but I'm really excited about Lord. Has great hands in close and tackles well.

Ben Campo and Pick 3 gives us longevity as a midfield force, but our top 4 aspirations lay at the feet, back and hamstrings of Cerra and Walsh

Yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing Lord next year. His hands are what I noticed as well. One touch. Clean.

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[GT619]

Sure

it has improved this year. if you look at SA team he played in a team where he didn't have enough around him to use it by foot does a lot of heavy lifting

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Yep think he’ll be the best player from this draft. Do we want a guy who bursts away from stoppage with questionable disposal on rare occasions and otherwise with proven quality disposal inside 50, who has high level agility and ability to read a ball making him an elite clearance extractor, who tackles like a madman, including against men, and who uses his speed and clearance to score goals from inside 50 stoppages or do we want a guy who can play multiple positions, high score assists, weapon of a boot, and a good size and mark. We struggle with our mid/forward connection and ball retention. Langford helps with that. Acceleration from contest is but one trait. I’d much rather Langford over Draper. I’d take Lalor, FOS, and Smith ahead of him too. All those guys can play multiple positions whereas I think Draper has the least versatility of the bunch. Pick 3 we should simply take who we project to be the best player in the draft IMO. Either way, we’re in a beautiful spot coming into the draft at 3.

What a derivative way to describe Draper. You missed out a few things from your description of him. Fixed it for you.

 

[JustOneTime]

Noticed (only in highlights so pinch of salt stuff) Ben C goes back after marks, stops, waits and doesn't play on enough. Gets a lot of disposal out the back like Murphy used so so little hurt factor.

Aside from disposal a couple more reasons why he might be slipping in the rankings given he gets a lot of disposals.

 

[katmanblue]

Yep, just like me. I dont go to the gym yet I have huge abs. Well, 1 huge ab

Who wants a six pack when you can have a keg?

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[Blue By Blood]

What a derivative way to describe Draper. You missed out a few things from your description of him. Fixed it for you.

Goes to show people can view things differently and there's nothing wrong with that.
I've seen a decent about of Draper live since I'm in SA.
I stand by Langford projecting as the best talent in this draft. We can revisit in 10 years time.

 

[JustaBattler]

Are we trying to pick a 2nd Brownlow medallist or are we trying to pick a player who will compliment our current one and be a star in their own right in the future?

This is like the reverse Dodoro. He was allergic to picking anyone who wasn't a flanker or small agile mid despite the fact they've been needing a big body bull for years and years. The result - 20+ years of rubbish.

Some of this board seem hell bent on stacking us with the biggest tractors the AFL has ever seen despite knowing our team operates at the speed of one of those century old tortoises moping around at the zoo.

Honestly we could do with some Dodoro right now. Quality flankers and small agile mids are what this list is crying out for to balance it out.

I read on here that there is a list so superstars waiting for Voss to give "opportunity" to in the midlfield - what is your view on that? "If only he had the brains to understand how much talent was waiting for opportunity Carlton would be just fine....play the kids" blah blah blah

Apparently Binns/E Hollands/Lord and Wilson are the future - thoughts? or is pick#4 going to be the 'magic pill' ?

 

[tarczonandjane]

The HUN draft update which I am sure someone can archive (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...t/news-story/01a898f4722194346eb561621b6cbc35) says we are weighing up between O’Sullivan, Smith, and Draper. Langford likely to slide to pick 6.

 

[Arr0w]

The HUN draft update which I am sure someone can archive (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...t/news-story/01a898f4722194346eb561621b6cbc35) says we are weighing up between O’Sullivan, Smith, and Draper. Langford likely to slide to pick 6.

https://archive.md/ilwT6

 

[Ninja Worrier]

So HUN going with:

Rich- Lalor
Nth-Tauru
Car-FOS
Ade-Draper
Mel-Smith
Rich- smillie
StK-Langford


Saints kissed on the proverbial

 

[Arr0w]

So HUN going with:

Rich- Lalor
Nth-Tauru
Car-FOS
Ade-Draper
Mel-Smith
Rich- smillie
StK-Langford


Saints kissed on the proverbial

Tigers mad not to take Langford at their 2nd pick

 

[BlueNath]

Tigers mad not to take Langford at their 2nd pick

Strong talk Tigers really like Smillie. But I agree... if Langford is there surely they snap him up

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I read on here that there is a list so superstars waiting for Voss to give "opportunity" to in the midlfield - what is your view on that? "If only he had the brains to understand how much talent was waiting for opportunity Carlton would be just fine....play the kids" blah blah blah

Apparently Binns/E Hollands/Lord and Wilson are the future - thoughts? or is pick#4 going to be the 'magic pill' ?

Idk what this melt is about but I have not been one to critique Voss much. I think he's done fine with the list we've got.

Been fairly consistent on that.

 

[JimmyRabbit49]

Hi Jimmy. Just asking how many times have adelaide met and intFOS now

First time as far as I know

 

[BobP]

Paddy Dow simply doesn't have that dog in him. That's why he didn't make it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Agreed. Looks out of place on the field.

 

[Sheephead]

When I look at that lust my first thought was ...."most of those blokes mentioned above have one thing in common - apart from footy ability and no it isnt the so called 'speed' "- only two of those blokes are genuinely fast.

Yup - Nail, head. Sam Mitchell and Greg Williams also say hello. Jagga is probably the quickest for example - runs all day but is not super quick - but I challenge you to get the ball off him. Speed is for those little tiprats that run around the forward line. If you want to draft a mid, pick one that gets the ball often and uses it well. I have preferences but any one of Jagga, Finn, Harvey, or Josh would do me just fine. Want speed, take a chance on a cut kid in the rookie draft (Someone like Burgiel (credit SoapyV)). Best available mid, followed by a KP option is a must IMO.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

When I look at that lust my first thought was ...."most of those blokes mentioned above have one thing in common - apart from footy ability and no it isnt the so called 'speed' "- only two of those blokes are genuinely fast.

Yeah but what do you notice at the top of that list of players - the name Patrick Cripps, a player that already plays for our club. So take a look at the midfields of the best sides in the competition: like Sydney, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs and you'll find fast, explosive midfielders like Chad Warner, Adam Treloar, Conor Rozee etc that compliment those every game superstars like Patrick Cripps.

 

[marcmurphy3]

So HUN going with:

Rich- Lalor
Nth-Tauru
Car-FOS
Ade-Draper
Mel-Smith
Rich- smillie
StK-Langford


Saints kissed on the proverbial

If they are willing to lock Jagga in the top 5 they must be pretty confident that all of us, Adelaide and Melbourne take him Langford.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

We've been strongly linked to FOS, Draper, Langford and Smith just in recent days.

Is this just journos throwing darts, or is the club actually smart enough to engage in a little misdirection?

 

[marcmurphy3]

I wonder how much these recent draftee interviews impact our order? I doubt we had many chats throughout the year, so our initial thoughts were probably influenced more by on field performance and athleticism

Watching Jagga and Draper talk (Jagga impresses me marginally more) they just seem like ultra professionals, deep thinkers, future captains. Several players have said that Jagga is the hardest trainer they have ever seen. Drapers' manager said he is the most professional player at his age he's ever seen. Whatever happens they will 100% get the best out of themselves.

FOS seems like a great kid. Not saying he is unprofessional but just doesn't come across anywhere near as impressive. That's not a reason not to pick him. Plenty of the AFL's best aren't Sam Walsh

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Sam Walsh

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

, Trent Cotchin

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Trent Cotchin

Age

34

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

types. It's often good to have a few more laid-back types around the club.

But I'm just curious, how much impact this might have in getting Jagga or Draper over the line, particularly if it's tight? I find it hard to imagine Voss walking out of a meeting with those 3 and being more impressed with FOS then Jagga or Draper.