Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who should Carlton take at Pick 3 if available?


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Agree. 12 and 14 was only just under ideal position. If were in the 6-10 range with two picks it wouldve been amazing to get Travaglia and Reid/Allen.
Out of those names, I'm only interested in Allen for us, and that has to be contrasted with Smillie & Hotton's abilities to accumulate inside and outside respectively.

Allen's midfield craft leaves a lot to be desired, but I do like his agility, speed and ground level defensive pressure for his size.
Upgrading from 12 and 14 to 6 and 11 with only an extra F2nd and time would be a master stroke.
Suspect Richmond would be more interested in pick 38 than Brisbane's future 2nd. Whether that's enough though is the question.

If Hotton is continuing to slide, I would then turn 11 (at that point, it's probably 13 or 14) and a future pick into picks that net us Hotton and potentially one of:

  • Hynes
  • the Whitlock twins
  • Trainor
  • Shanahan
 
Don’t think Draper is going top 2

It's interesting to me that a lot of our supporters think Draper is the best bet for us, but nobody has him going top 2. FOS and Smith both have top 2 credentials. Is it purely about pace?

Not a knock on Draper though. I've actually improved my opinion on him and would be happy to have him. I'd be happy to have any of top 6 candidates to be fair. Lots to like.
 

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Yeah this "we can't lose" at pick 3 statement that's going around is a bit of a myth. We absolutely can lose and it's a decent possibility. Just hard to tell which is the winner vs the loser at this point. That's why Austin gets paid the big bucks.

In a few years we'll be laughing at these posts struggling to split Draper, Smith, O'Sullivan Langford when xx is a multi-time All Australian and yy is a whipping boy. Hopefully we get xx.
Agree with this. We absolutely need to nail this pick and I think there are busts in the top end of this draft like every draft.
 
I feel a player that can play half forward / midfield is the best suited for us currently.
Lalor, Langford and O’Sullivan seem to be the standouts here.
However, as I always say, picking top 30 should always be ‘best available’, no matter list requirements.
This year we might be extremely lucky and have the best available also be the best suited.
Over to the recruiting team but IMO, Langford is still the standout for me. I could be wrong but time will tell.
Just don’t f@#$ it up Austin, we have invested a bit!
 
I feel a player that can play half forward / midfield is the best suited for us currently.
Lalor, Langford and O’Sullivan seem to be the standouts here.
However, as I always say, picking top 30 should always be ‘best available’, no matter list requirements.
This year we might be extremely lucky and have the best available also be the best suited.
Over to the recruiting team but IMO, Langford is still the standout for me. I could be wrong but time will tell.
Just don’t f@#$ it up Austin, we have invested a bit!
Starting to get a feeling that in a few years we will look back and might regret not taking Langford with our pick with all the qualities he brings.

It’s Langford or FOS for me as first choice but I’ll be delighted with whoever we select.

I just want the best player available, we are fortunate that this year that they all fill needs that we need. 3 days to go!!!
 
Yer but if 6 & 11 are on the table at that point we'd have a think

The likelihood of Austin drafting exactly the two players you want at 6 and 11 is low. Might as well just use 3.
 

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Agree with this. We absolutely need to nail this pick and I think there are busts in the top end of this draft like every draft.
Indeed we do.

Just watched Cal on 9 news talking about how North can't trade down from Pick #2 because most clubs want multiple picks in a deep draft.

I initially wanted us to keep 12 & 14 but obviously we have a target in mind #3, so really need to get it right because we gave up a lot to get it.

C'mon Aussie C'mon.
 
Trading down to say #6 only works if Richmond is keen on a particular player and see value in trading up to 3.

They are virtually in full rebuild mode - and therefore are as likely, if not more than us, to be interested and open to several players such as FOS, Smith, Draper or Langford and happy to choose whoever is available at pick 6.

Yep, well aware, which is why my original outline of this scenario was predicated on Richmond taking a risk/gamble on a) our reported interest in FOS, and b) the complete absence of any suggestion we've met with Lalor.

If they think Lalor might last to three, there's an angle where they draft FOS at 1, then come hard for 3 from us. It's risky, cause if we really like one of Smith/Draper/Langford, or if we'd pounce on Lalor, then they risk missing out. But if they have Lalor and FOS as 1 & 2 on their board, it'd be a viable way to try and get both.

There's a lot of moving parts though. Would NM grab Lalor at 2? Will NM trade from 2 to 4, and if so who do Adelaide take? How have Carlton ranked the top 6 and, more importantly, where have they drawn lines from one tier of player to the next?

Simply put, I don't see any other club with both the picks to offer and the desire to move up to 3. Besidea 3, the top ten picks are owned by 4 clubs. Melbourne and St Kilda's picks are already well-placed for their needs, and if we're willing to swap picks with Adelaide that would signal to them that the trade is probably unnecessary. That leaves Richmond. If they take Lalor at 1 and FOS is still there at 3 then its sounding like we call his name. If it's the other way round, maybe a deal gets done.

Very slim, outside chance that a club outside the top 10 enters the conversation. GWS could try and do 15 and 16 for a top ten pick (via Saints or Dees), then maybe that pick and 21 for 3 becomes an option.

As I've said a few times though, I doubt we move back. It's possible, but I see it as needing a very specific set of circumstances all falling into line. Not impossible, definitely improbable.
 

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