Preview 2024 Rd 19 Carlton vs North Melbourne Sunday 21st July 4:40PM AEST @ Marvel Stadium

[Aphrodite]

Final Team is in …


4 changes

UPDATE: 20th June:-

IN: SAM DURDIN
OUT: CALEB MARCHBANK (Illness)

AFL team news: Blues back speed, Boyd out through injury

Carlton has made four changes for the clash with North Melbourne.

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MILESTONE: Adam Cerra 50 Carlton games

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Ollie and Kennedy both played last week…

wasnt Kennedy sub?

 

[Arr0w]

True, but Weitering and Walsh are on another level.

Cerra and Cottrell aren't far from their normal level

Players are judged dramatically different between wins and losses

 

[carlton_99]

Pitto, Williams, Ollie

Hewy, Motlop , Kennedy

Technically Kennedy is already "in" as he was sub. So my guess would be your first two are right. And there must be another change

 

[Drexl 31]

If Cottrell is selected again this week. We'll be playing with 21 players.

H will play. In the ressies.

 

[JustOneTime]

Interesting discussion with kingy & Joey on afl360 tonight. Their segment was based on playing two rucks v not playing two rucks. I thought that it would be the normal lazy discussion however Kingy (with Champion data) had gone through all the data this year to work out the most effective rucks pre-clearance (at the hitouts) and post clearance (around the ground).

The most effective rucks pre-clearance are;
1) Marc Pittonet
2) Kieran Briggs
3) Sean Darcy
4) Tom DeKonning
5) Max Gawn

And the most effective rucks post clearance are;
1) Max Gawn
2) Ned Moyle
3) Luke Jackson
4) Tim English
5) Darcy Cameron

I guess that this tells us what we pretty much already knew in that both of our rucks (despite being diametrically opposite) excel in one area (pre-clearance) . However it was a surprise to see Pitto rated so highly. They did say that Sam Draper was rated 18th in one category and 21st in another.

Really funny. Shows you in one snapshot how useless information can be.

This in its literal sense (zero context) says we should be playing Pitto over TDK and it is also saying for stoppages Pitto is the best ruck in the AFL.

Obviously people watching games know that neither of the above premises are even close to the truth.

Anyway, thanks for sharing it.

 

[The Dochs in]

Heard that we were +15 for first possession at stoppages, but we kept fumbling and turning it over. They said that Cerra fumbled to the opposition 'about 8 times'.

I think there’s something in the way the dogs tackled us though. They were very good at pinning one arm and we got done quite a few times for holding the ball. Think it caused us to panic and fumble not really knowing what to do.

 

[Opium]

Cerra and Cottrell aren't far from their normal level

Players are judged dramatically different between wins and losses

Cerra was horrible. Cottrell invisible.

 

[Benaly28]

Cerra was horrible. Cottrell invisible.

Hewett will make a big difference to Cerras game.


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[Accidental genius]

Hewett will make a big difference to Cerras game.


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I get this but I don’t like it. We’ve got too many of these situations - players need to stand up and perform well regardless of who is in the team….

Anywhere anytime anyone

 

[Arr0w]

Think Cincotta might play back this week

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Think Cincotta might play back this week

Because we need more pace back there, or for a specific role?

 

[Blue Pulse]

He's been a victim this year of being too bogged down in a 'defensive role' and not given license to find the footy. I fear it's a trait becoming a wee bit too regular with Voss's style.

Love the way how Ginnivan speaks about this. At Collingwood got loaded up with role & process that his 'instinct' was taken away and he became less dangerous because of it. At Hawthorn Sam Mitchell has simply freed him up to hunt the footy and play instinctively. (Concede that Ginni probably didn't help himself off field either).

Totally agree with this, it's great to have roles and processes but sometimes a player will have an opportunity to hit or create a contest and don't do it as they are so focused on their role. It's a bit like a defender watching his opponent when they are 1 v 1 instead of the ball. (ie Williams v Elliott earlier this year)

It is, and always will be an instinctive game and I feel sometimes if you take that away from a player they lose what got them to that top level.

 

[Blue Pulse]

H will play. In the ressies.

Read this as Harry will play in the ressies??? Would you like to buy a vowel?

 

[Arr0w]

Because we need more pace back there, or for a specific role?

General matchup, think a tall defender will get omitted

 

[carlton_99]

General matchup, think a tall defender will get omitted

North do play three talls with Larkey, Pink and Teakle.

 

[Arr0w]

North do play three talls with Larkey, Pink and Teakle.

If they do, all of Marchbank, Weitering & Kemp would play

 

[Benaly28]

I get this but I don’t like it. We’ve got too many of these situations - players need to stand up and perform well regardless of who is in the team….

Anywhere anytime anyone

Your right but some players need others to block/shepherd/make space/put bodies on others/defensive mechanisms I think George is the one player who does that well and we’ve missed the last two weeks with arrogant selection calls.


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[Benaly28]

Because we need more pace back there, or for a specific role?

I think it’s a big game for Cinc I reckon teams have worked him out.LDU is the obvious choice but Sheezel might be the one he goes to.


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[SurreyBlue]

Cerra and Cottrell aren't far from their normal level

Players are judged dramatically different between wins and losses

Correct - Cottrell hardly gets 5 possessions in a good game.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I think it’s a big game for Cinc I reckon teams have worked him out.LDU is the obvious choice but Sheezel might be the one he goes to.


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You'd think Cripps and LDU would go head to head. I think it will be Sheezel.

 

[Kernafides]

I think it’s a big game for Cinc I reckon teams have worked him out.LDU is the obvious choice but Sheezel might be the one he goes to.


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He shut Dale down after half time...it was a big ask to stop Bont...different shape to Butters and Merett

 

[DangerousD]

Really funny. Shows you in one snapshot how useless information can be.

This in its literal sense (zero context) says we should be playing Pitto over TDK and it is also saying for stoppages Pitto is the best ruck in the AFL.

Obviously people watching games know that neither of the above premises are even close to the truth.

Anyway, thanks for sharing it.

They showed footage of Pitto tap work and the areas he put the ball, it was a highlights package so its just a snap shot but, Pitto was putting the ball in to great spots for our mids, they made the point that Pitto was doing a great job of giving us first use but it was then the mids and other players post stoppage letting us down.

They didn’t go in to effectiveness of Pitto around the ground, which is where he suffers, he is really good at the stoppage, but then he falls away.

He would be very valuable to a club looking at a number 1 ruck.

 

[DangerousD]

I think it’s a big game for Cinc I reckon teams have worked him out.LDU is the obvious choice but Sheezel might be the one he goes to.


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Is it teams working him out or just Voss not picking a good match up? IN hindsight i think staying on Dale as a defensive forward the entire game would have been more beneficial.

 

[JJBagger]

Is it teams working him out or just Voss not picking a good match up? IN hindsight i think staying on Dale as a defensive forward the entire game would have been more beneficial.

Treloar would’ve been the perfect matchup had he have played

 

[Sector 7G]

He shut Dale down after half time...it was a big ask to stop Bont...different shape to Butters and Merett

I thought he did a good job limiting Bont in he first half as much as CD have have rated him the 2nd best player on the ground to that point. The issue was the Dog made Dale their spare in defence. We needed to get Fog or one of the other small forwards to run with him and make someone else the spare.