Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

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  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

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  HB

  11.9

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  M

  3.5

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  T

  6.6

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  CL

  5.7

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  D

  15.3

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  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

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  M

  1.3

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  T

  3.3

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  CL

  4.2

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  D

  22.2

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  K

  8.6

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  HB

  13.6

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  M

  3.2

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  T

  6.0

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  CL

  4.6

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

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  Mid

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  27.8

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  K

  9.5

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  18.4

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  M

  3.2

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  T

  6.3

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  CL

  6.3

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  D

  25.1

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  11.1

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  14.0

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  3.6

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  5.6

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  CL

  5.9

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  D

  19.2

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  K

  4.6

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  14.6

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  M

  2.0

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  T

  4.4

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  CL

  3.8

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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

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  Fwd

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  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

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  2.8

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  M

  3.7

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  T

  1.7

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  G

  1.2

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  D

  6.3

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  K

  4.0

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  HB

  2.3

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  M

  3.0

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  T

  2.3

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  G

  1.0

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  D

  8.0

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  K

  5.4

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  HB

  2.6

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  M

  3.4

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  T

  2.6

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  G

  1.0

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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[ABAB]

In 2 years time North could have the best midfield in the competition. I think they will be able to add KPP without too many issues.

I think North are rebuilding well as drafting midfielders is less risk, unlike the crows who draft either KPP or small forwards with our top picks and looks likely to be a potential 50% strike rate.

7 years into a rebuild and we have IMO only one drafted midfielder that may come close to the quality of McKercher, Sheezel or Wardlaw.

We should of rebuilt the engine first.

It hasn't worked for North or Port Power and Sydney to an extent. Both got exposed despite having quality midfield but nothing at either end except Sydney's forward and back is better than Port Power's so they smashed them in the PF.

 

[JimmyTheScoop]

Could Berg be worked into a trade for Peatling as to not affect GWS compensation for Cumming?

 

[Glenny83]

“He will be part of Adelaide’s Executive management team and oversee all aspects of the Club’s football operations when he officially starts early in the New Year.”

**** yeah! This is great news.


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[Sizzlepack]

We did, and then the Suns did something even worse.

One of the more baffling list decisions in recent memory.

He actually spoke about this on the radio today. Apparently he only mentioned his desire to leave for Brisbane to Dew after the trade period had ended, so the only way to facilitate the move was via a delisting. Perhaps that's just the polite story, but I thought it was interesting.

 

[jenny61_99]

**** yeah! This is great news.


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Wtf? This is what the club said about Kelly when he was announced.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Could Berg be worked into a trade for Peatling as to not affect GWS compensation for Cumming?

I’m not sure GWS would be willing to help us out if we steal two of their players

 

[Sizzlepack]

Could Berg be worked into a trade for Peatling as to not affect GWS compensation for Cumming?

We have no control over what Himmelberg does, he's an Unrestricted Free Agent. There's literally no contract to hold him to.

 

[Vader]

Could Berg be worked into a trade for Peatling as to not affect GWS compensation for Cumming?

Won't affect their compensation at all if he goes to GC instead...

 

[119others]

Also, Himmelberg, its surely in our interests if he chooses GWS over GC as GWS would then look at throwing a late pick our way to ensure they don't dilute their free agency compo for Perryman and Cumming?

But how is it in our interests to get a late pick? (when it’s VERY unlikely we would use it)

 

[croweater 41]

I’m not sure GWS would be willing to help us out if we steal two of their players

It would be helping themsleves out.

Berg* and insert pick here for Peatling. Cumming signs as a FA and GWS get the band 2/3 compo. Rather than signing Berg as a FA and making the band 2/3 more likely a 3/4.

*Assuming Berg is interested in going to GWS rather than GC

 

[Vader]

We have no control over what Himmelberg does, he's an Unrestricted Free Agent. There's literally no contract to hold him to.

This is true, but GWS may request to do a trade instead of taking him via FA - if doing so means that they don't lose their Cumming compensation. It all depends on what works out better for them.

 

[119others]

I'm excited for the potential of whats happening currently

How many we get across the line remains to be seen

But for me the real test of the success of this period is how many games Murphy gets in 2025 .

So Murphy playing all games coinciding with a flag = FAIL? ;-)

 

[Fuddnuddler]

Salary isnt the issue game time is

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Salary/contract length is the issue for Peatling, the whole 'more opportunities' thing is overblown, he's clearly broken into GWS' starting midfield now.
Since r17, attended 3rd most centre bounces behind Tom Green and Bedford: 49% CBA overall; played 70% of game time in midfeld; 24% forward (tagged Zorko in semi-final)
(source, a News Corpse article, which notes: 'His work rate was regularly praised by Kingsley as the Giants put together a strong run to end the year. Importantly, he has been rewarded for finally taking his midfield opportunities with both hands.'

 

[119others]

Think we have reached the point where these players got games coz of lack alternatives.

We have improved our drafting and trading position since 2020 (Tilthorpe, Rachele, Michalanney and Curtin in the first rounds 2020 - 2023) and as each year progresses we are getting better depth.

Murphy has a contract for 2025 but I’d be shocked if he doesn’t end up on the rookie list for 2026.

Delisted end of 2025. 99.9%

 

[Fritz n Sauce]

Peatling isn’t a free agent. If he comes to us we would need to trade with GWS.

That trade wouldn’t impact on FA compo for GWS.

But Berg is so it would effect the GWS compensation so they may choose to trade instead of picking him up as an UFA

 

[ABAB]

Thought for sure Port were going to get one of Perryman or Cummings.

Losing Houston is going to really hurt them.

And then use those salary to overpay for Lukosius with a few more years, I don't think it's the rumour 7 years at $1M but 7 years at $850K which is the offer Perryman rejected. They could have used some of those salary for Houston but instead will need to trade for Lukosius with a 1st rounder they get from Houston as they are clearly desperate for Lukosius given their offer.

 

[tinman]

But how is it in our interests to get a late pick? (when it’s VERY unlikely we would use it)

Only points for Welsh?

 

[119others]

Only points for Welsh?

Yep ok thanks mate but points stop in the 50’s from memory. A late pick will provide either zilch or an immaterial amount I would have thought

 

[ABAB]

Perryman to the Pies would lead you to believe Port will hold Houston right?

Houston would be pissed with the money they've offered Perryman and Lukosius, he didn't look too happy when he request the trade to VIC after his exit meeting and the same day Lukosius request the trade to Port Power.

 

[GreyCrow]

So Murphy playing all games coinciding with a flag = FAIL? ;-)

We won't win a flag with Lachlan Murphy in the side

Bookmark it

 

[Fuddnuddler]

Houston would be pissed with the money they've offered Perryman and Lukosius, he didn't look too happy when he request the trade to VIC after his exit meeting and the same day Lukosius request the trade to Port Power.

Probably because he was outing himself as a liar

 

[jenny61_99]

We won't win a flag with Lachlan Murphy in the side

Bookmark it

97 grand final squad:

B:	44 Peter Caven	35 Rod Jameson	34 Ben Hart
HB:	23 Andrew McLeod	15 David Pittman	36 Simon Goodwin
C:	14 Matthew Connell	3 Darren Jarman	5 Kym Koster
HF:	24 Clay Sampson	10 Matthew Robran	7 Nigel Smart
F:	42 Chad Rintoul	13 Shane Ellen	18 Troy Bond
Foll:	52 Shaun Rehn	28 Kane Johnson	26 Mark Bickley(Capt)
Int:	9 Tyson Edwards	11 Brett James	20 Aaron Keating
Coach:	Malcolm Blight

98 grand final squad:

B:	28 Kane Johnson	34 Ben Hart	26 Mark Bickley(Capt)
HB:	7 Nigel Smart	44 Peter Caven	13 Shane Ellen
C:	30 Peter Vardy	36 Simon Goodwin	29 James Thiessen
HF:	23 Andrew McLeod	10 Matthew Robran	11 Brett James
F:	32 Mark Ricciuto	15 David Pittman	9 Tyson Edwards
Foll:	52 Shaun Rehn	3 Darren Jarman	5 Kym Koster
Int:	14 Matthew Connell	19 Mark Stevens	31 Ben Marsh
33 Andrew Eccles

Spot the Murphy

 

[119others]

And then use those salary to overpay for Lukosius with a few more years, I don't think it's the rumour 7 years at $1M but 7 years at $850K which is the offer Perryman rejected. They could have used some of those salary for Houston but instead will need to trade for Lukosius with a 1st rounder they get from Houston as they are clearly desperate for Lukosius given their offer.

Port Power board already lamenting their “soft forward line” in 2025 with Marshall, Luko, Finlayson and Mitch G. None of them are crash and bash players like TT. Even The Fog and Tex are much harder than anyone of that quartet.

Imagine giving uo your 3/4th best player for Luko…Please let that happen

 

[Amacca 23]

Salary/contract length is the issue for Peatling, the whole 'more opportunities' thing is overblown, he's clearly broken into GWS' starting midfield now.
Since r17, attended 3rd most centre bounces behind Tom Green and Bedford: 49% CBA overall; played 70% of game time in midfeld; 24% forward (tagged Zorko in semi-final)
(source, a News Corpse article, which notes: 'His work rate was regularly praised by Kingsley as the Giants put together a strong run to end the year. Importantly, he has been rewarded for finally taking his midfield opportunities with both hands.'

He only got that because kelly and cogs were injured

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[119others]

97 grand final squad:

B:	44 Peter Caven	35 Rod Jameson	34 Ben Hart
HB:	23 Andrew McLeod	15 David Pittman	36 Simon Goodwin
C:	14 Matthew Connell	3 Darren Jarman	5 Kym Koster
HF:	24 Clay Sampson	10 Matthew Robran	7 Nigel Smart
F:	42 Chad Rintoul	13 Shane Ellen	18 Troy Bond
Foll:	52 Shaun Rehn	28 Kane Johnson	26 Mark Bickley(Capt)
Int:	9 Tyson Edwards	11 Brett James	20 Aaron Keating
Coach:	Malcolm Blight

98 grand final squad:

B:	28 Kane Johnson	34 Ben Hart	26 Mark Bickley(Capt)
HB:	7 Nigel Smart	44 Peter Caven	13 Shane Ellen
C:	30 Peter Vardy	36 Simon Goodwin	29 James Thiessen
HF:	23 Andrew McLeod	10 Matthew Robran	11 Brett James
F:	32 Mark Ricciuto	15 David Pittman	9 Tyson Edwards
Foll:	52 Shaun Rehn	3 Darren Jarman	5 Kym Koster
Int:	14 Matthew Connell	19 Mark Stevens	31 Ben Marsh
33 Andrew Eccles

Spot the Murphy

Haha, I thought the same. Sampson, Rintoul or Thiessen?