List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Lomas · 2024-10-16T20:42:23+1100

roos_fanatic08 said:
Because we are 3 years into a rebuild. If you want high end talent and list balance then you need to draft it, especially if you can’t recruit it via FA.

With the talls available and role players in other positions this draft is absolutely perfect for us, we should be having at a minimum 3 picks inside the top 30. It’s short sighted to think otherwise imo.

I think we still end up with those 3 inside 30.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T20:42:30+1100

iloveireland said:
Cooper Harvey getting delisted now?

blake drury should be

keep coop over laz and him

travelli · 2024-10-16T20:42:38+1100

perplexed said:
Well, I hated that. But anyway.

40 players are signed for next year and the maximum list size for us is 44. So only 4 free list spots (assuming we cut Drury, Cooper and Laz - who are all unsigned).

If we take River and one of the Werribee boys, we'll only have 2 other spots at the draft. That is really not good considering its strength. Probably best to payout CCJ and Stevo to give us a few more options, even if we don't end up using them.

We haven't cut those guys for a reason.

It may be that we only take a one or two guys from the draft.

KEEP THE TWO!

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-16T20:42:58+1100

The Y Factor said:
So I assume you think our off season is finished?

Trade week is phase 1.

The draft is phase two. The team have made it clear we are looking to bring F1 into it and also trade down.

The job isn’t done yet and the club have told us they have plans to hit this draft.

We have achieved phase one, with Parker, Darling, Daniel, pick 2 and retaining next years first round pick.

Now for the draft.

Patience

No of course it isn't finished. There's time for pick swaps of course in the lead up for the draft and on draft night.
What's done is done. Welcome Caleb, Luke, Jacob and Jack.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T20:43:07+1100

3 premiership all aus players is impressive tho as 1 intake

plus a former first round small forward who is only 20

Ashley B · 2024-10-16T20:43:25+1100

LuvtheKangas said:
The twitter page I quoted shows this comment to be 100% ignorant.

Only kidding will be interesting how we use his skills . He will be a good distributor no doubt . He may take kick ins often too.

Shermanator · 2024-10-16T20:44:07+1100

Caleb played 24 games in season 2016 and finished runner-up in the NAB AFL Rising Star award while also playing a part in the Bulldogs’ drought-breaking premiership. Playing a mix of midfield-forward minutes, Daniel transitioned to a full-time role in defence in 2019 and hasn’t looked back. He enjoyed a career-best season in 2020 to claim the Charles Sutton Medal, earn maiden All-Australian honours, and notch up his 100th senior game.

The campaigner is RU RS, AA, F&B AND Premiership player.. imagine if we took a fringe player with pick 25?.. FMD lol

Harvey Manfrenjensenden · 2024-10-16T20:44:52+1100

roos_fanatic08 said:
If we play that way, he’ll also be a big reason why we get stacks of goals kicked against us because he can’t defend for shit.

DuckYeah · 2024-10-16T20:45:22+1100

The Nostradamus said:
got rid of 7
brought in 4 plus 2msd
plus we have pick 2 and 62

1 more player needs to make way (drury)

i think we will get rid of 2 out of the 3 in limbo to give us flexibility

i'd keep coop but on the rookie list

drury goneski

perplexed · 2024-10-16T20:46:07+1100

The Nostradamus said:
river is not worth a spot

reevaluate next year for a rookie spot

noone is picking him

and your numbers are wrong we have 2 free list spots atm without cutting anyone it has been confirmed we keep 2 extra spots

cut drury gives us 3 spots

I was counting the extra spots - hence 44. We started at 46 - 7 delisted - 3 unsigned + 4 traded in = 40

Also, River is definitely worth a rookie spot.

Ashley B · 2024-10-16T20:47:03+1100

If Caleb and others can help us improve non of us will be complaining

Lomas · 2024-10-16T20:47:33+1100

Ashley B said:
If Caleb and others can help us improve non of us will be complaining

Oh, my sweet summer child.

Zondor · 2024-10-16T20:48:07+1100

My take. We buckled. We paid overs in the end. Is that surprising? However I rate Parker. Happy that he is at the club. We overpaid for Daniel. Darling IMO is cooked. Konstanty hopefully will fill a need. But let’s be honest with each other. He is a fringe player as it stands. Anyway the problem now is we only have pick 2 and donuts until the 60s. Splitting pick 2 or trading futures to get back into this draft is on the cards. Personally I wouldn’t have done the Daniel deal for pick 25 and I would’ve wanted the Swans Future 3rd for trading 44. :stern look

Harvey Manfrenjensenden · 2024-10-16T20:48:23+1100

The Nostradamus said:
i much rather have traded a future 2nd over 25

you take the similar pick 12 months in advance every time

and even the future 2nd was overs but at least not as bad

Maybe the club preferred that as well but highly likely the Dogs wanted picks this year and that offer was rejected weeks ago. Let it go mate.

Ashley B · 2024-10-16T20:48:45+1100

Lomas said:
Oh, my sweet summer child.

Trying to be positive we won’t play for months we can do that now lol

the rooboy · 2024-10-16T20:48:46+1100

The Nostradamus said:
i much rather have traded a future 2nd over 25

you take the similar pick 12 months in advance every time

and even the future 2nd was overs but at least not as bad

Problem is next years draft is considered weaker hence why everyone has traded out of it. Also next years draft is also filled with academy and father and sons so next years pick probably would have been in the 30s. But the clueless Rawlings apologist will defend the trade then whinge about it after just like CCJ trade.

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Harvey Manfrenjensenden · 2024-10-16T20:50:02+1100

Jindrrk said:
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WELCOME BACK BROTHER

roos 10 · 2024-10-16T20:50:20+1100

GoRoos2023 said:
Gave you
Xerri signing for 4
Parker committing
Konsta early
And Ldu will sign but still can’t convince you all!

That’s me for 24 see you next year.

Don’t leave yet are we splitting 2 or trading future 1st

DuckYeah · 2024-10-16T20:50:20+1100

roos_fanatic08 said:
If we play that way, he’ll also be a big reason why we get stacks of goals kicked against us because he can’t defend for shit.

Its imperative to get the balance right. We are dying for someone who can kick a footy. Tick, we now have one. One where Kerch can push up the ground. Now we have 3 good kicks of the footy from defence to inside 50.

Topparoo · 2024-10-16T20:50:58+1100

kool kangas said:
What could we ask from Richmond for our F1st next year?

Their pick one this year

Jindrrk · 2024-10-16T20:51:39+1100

Paid overs but got what we want/need. Arguing over some slight semantics. The deals not done people would be a lot more upset and both two clubs know we needed to get it done as we desperately need experienced players and having 3 wanting to come in one year doesnt grow on trees. When I was expecting experience play/s to come in I didn't expect 3 premiership players all at once.

Could have been better traded? Sure. Unhappy, a little...but if makes us a better side in 3 years then it could be a good success.

I think Parker will make our midfield players be much better for it when they come to mature age.

3 premiership players into the list and help the core of players coming through and helping some load off Simpkin and Lmac.

I'd like to see Parker rotate with Simpkin fwd pocket.

Karanicolas · 2024-10-16T20:52:48+1100

Next year when we have the ball in D50 and are protecting a lead in the last quarter, whom do want to have the ball exiting D50:

(a) Fisher
(b) McDonald
(c) Daniels

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T20:53:20+1100

Themanbun said:
Agreed. If it were the midfielder/flanker heavy drafts of the last few years I wouldn't be so concerned about what we paid. But the draft crop this year, with plenty of good options to address list gaps being around our 2nd rounder, we simply couldn't afford to give it up for another flanker.

Save your anxiety until the draft night, and specifically if we don't select Tauru and a KPF, I reckon mate.

Ideally we go with the roos_fanatic08 plan to bring forward the F2 and get a good small forward too.

Samsquanch · 2024-10-16T20:53:38+1100

Shinboner roo said:
We ain't taking only pick 2 and as it stands now our other pick in the 60's to the draft. We are 100% splitting it now, our only hope is our ff nets us something decent in return and we can keep 2

The other clubs will look at our Future First now and half of them will be thinking it's going to get them 14 to 16 at best after today's result.

North's trading has delivered the jigsaw pieces that were almost completely missing in the age profile by sourcing experienced men who each have been part of premiership teams. I'm very hopeful and am almost certain that we will see so much development happen amongst the young players over the next few months that we'll hardly recognise the team in matches next year.

And I think it's kind of important that the new leaders are from outside - they can be friendly by all means, but they aren't mates who've been mucking around together over the past few years, sharing the pain of losses and licking each other's wounded pride. They will be able to demand improvement and be heard because they've proven themselves under the heat of big-time finals.

Zebrah · 2024-10-16T20:53:44+1100

10 years of 25 and 44. I feel comfortable.

- Mitchell Knevit and Zac Taylor

- Brayden Cook and Beau McCrery

- Jackson Mead and Will Martyn

- James Rowbottom and Justin McInerny

- Noah Balta and High Dixon

- Ben Long and Myles Poholke

- Joshua Dunkley and Blake Hardwick

- Daniel Neilson and Liam Dowson

- Daniel McStay and Aliir Aliir

- Spencer White and Harrison Marsh

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