List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part II

[Kangaroos4eva]

The melts have begun and we still have weeks before the trade season starts. Love it!

Bring this one out every trade season.

 

[Gasometer]

Yep full of content krakouers Samsquanch

 

[Rooniversity]

Respectfully I disagree. If that’s his thinking he would just stay at Port for the next 12 months and then get to Carlton.

Exactly, that’s why I wouldn’t want him in that scenario.

 

[The Nostradamus]

just get a small forward and Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

Hit the draft

 

[hilly]

Any trades?

 

[krakouers]

Yep full of content krakouers Samsquanch

Sex sells

 

[chubbspeterson]

Thank Christ someone said it.

A half back flanker barely moves the needle as good as he is.

We need 10 good players not 1 and we need them a hell of a lot longer than 2-3 years of good footy.

Should've gone with 5-6 years. You were doing ok until then.

 

[flojo]

Have we won trade week yet ?

 

[Gasometer]

Sex sells

Be careful

It’s sechs on here

 

[chubbspeterson]

Have we won trade week yet ?

 

[The Talent Scout]

The number one priority this off-season has to be drafting elite KPF and small forwards, surely.

We will know the answer to that statement with the first pick in the draft, we are getting a key forward and I'm pretty sure its our number one priority but if we can somehow split our pick then the answer is yes, if we don't or can't split and we have to use our pick 2 then it might be a case of predator vs alien, err sorry, key forward vs midfielder. We've looked at someone in the WAFL and elsewhere in Australia for a small forward so it will be interesting what happens in that department.

 

[apollo_creed]

I’m definitely pro getting Daniel. Low risk in terms of what we need to get up and while he has weaknesses that our side already has (size and speed) his decision making and ball use is something we sorely lack.

Fisher is not a good decision maker/ball user. He looks good kicking but it doesn’t equate to being smart or reliable with ball in hand. McDonald is McDonald. He would’ve been more effective in the 80s and 90s where you could get away with aimlessly bombing the ball.

I don’t want Houston for the price being suggested. And I’m not a Rawlings fan but if we overpay I won’t blame Brady as it’s pretty obvious it would 100% be a Clarko directive.

If we end up with Parker, Daniel, Darling (sigh) and pick 2 i’ll be happy. If pick 2 ended up being a top 5 pick instead then I would also be ok with that.

 

[tazaa]

He does not want to come to North. If Carlton cannot get a deal done it is highly likely he stays at Port for another 12 months and revisits a trade in 12 months time.

Nope he wants to come back to Melbourne. That is the only option that is confirmed.

 

[Samsquanch]

Sex sells

How did that one end up Kraks?

 

[Zondor]

I’m definitely pro getting Daniel. Low risk in terms of what we need to get up and while he has weaknesses that our side already has (size and speed) his decision making and ball use is something we sorely lack.

Fisher is not a good decision maker/ball user. He looks good kicking but it doesn’t equate to being smart or reliable with ball in hand. McDonald is McDonald. He would’ve been more effective in the 80s and 90s where you could get away with aimlessly bombing the ball.

I don’t want Houston for the price being suggested. And I’m not a Rawlings fan but if we overpay I won’t blame Brady as it’s pretty obvious it would 100% be a Clarko directive.

If we end up with Parker, Daniel, Darling (sigh) and pick 2 i’ll be happy. If pick 2 ended up being a top 5 pick instead then I would also be ok with that.

C’mon Creed. Viney is there to keep a clown like Rawling in check. He is there to also keep Clarkson in check. That’s why Fisher and Cat Stephens got 4 year deals and Pink had a trigger in his contract. :stern look

 

[archereleven]

You get 10 good players by adding one good player 10 times.

And Houston only having 2-3 good years left...LOL

Has he turned 30 in the last few days?

By the time the off-season is done, Sphynx will have Houston in a retirement home, having played 0 games for us whilst us giving up pick 2 and F1...

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[The Talent Scout]

I wouldn't rule out the Demons either. If they see something they like they are prepared to pay the price for it.

Exactly, the talk of the Demons liking Harry Armstrong is great but if they don't get a mid or try and trade up for one of the big 6 then I'll be very surprised, even more now that Oliver is almost out the door.

 

[Devington]

I'm not a Dan Houston hater, but I am not fussed if he doesn't make it here, given his age and how much it will cost.

I'm in a similar boat. Decent odds he won't be around when we're contending, so a high draft pick cost would hurt in that regard. The flipside is that he would become a new lock in the best 22, would outright help us rise up the ladder, and will make it easier to attract other trade targets.

Ultimately I would prefer we land him, as we have to turn this ship around ASAP, but if we don't then that means we can still get quality with the pick cost he would have required.

Also, the idea some are peddling that we should back out because we aren't his first preference causes me psychic damage. We are smashing records in shitness. The fact he hasn't publicly said he has no interest in coming to us should be seen as a compliment in and of itself. To become a club where we DO become a preference for A graders, we need to improve. He will help us improve in the short and medium term. It just feels like it's born of hurt pride (our pride should be far more hurt by where we are as a club!) and overall is a silly argument, especially compared to valid ones like what an appropriate pick cost would be or how long he might have left in him at his current level.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I'm in a similar boat. Decent odds he won't be around when we're contending, so a high draft pick cost would hurt in that regard. The flipside is that he would become a new lock in the best 22, would outright help us rise up the ladder, and will make it easier to attract other trade targets.

Ultimately I would prefer we land him, as we have to turn this ship around ASAP, but if we don't then that means we can still get quality with the pick cost he would have required.

Also, the idea some are peddling that we should back out because we aren't his first preference causes me psychic damage. We are smashing records in shitness. The fact he hasn't publicly said he has no interest in coming to us should be seen as a compliment in and of itself. To become a club where we DO become a preference for A graders, we need to improve. He will help us improve in the short and medium term. It just feels like it's born of hurt pride (our pride should be far more hurt by where we are as a club!) and overall is a silly argument, especially compared to valid ones like what an appropriate pick cost would be or how long he might have left in him at his current level.

 

[Garibaldi82]

Personally not sold on Houston for what it's worth.
Playing the easiest position in the ground in a very good team (apparently) with decent players around him won't necessarily carry over to the win column for a team like us (just ask Sheez).
I'm all for trading a high end pick, but only for a jet that plays a critical position (for us) and has 5 years + in the tank.
Would rather keep our high end pick and go with Daniel. Minimum risk without selling the farm. Would also be a lock in our starting 22.
Just my thoughts

 

[archereleven]

I'm in a similar boat. Decent odds he won't be around when we're contending, so a high draft pick cost would hurt in that regard. The flipside is that he would become a new lock in the best 22, would outright help us rise up the ladder, and will make it easier to attract other trade targets.

Ultimately I would prefer we land him, as we have to turn this ship around ASAP, but if we don't then that means we can still get quality with the pick cost he would have required.

Also, the idea some are peddling that we should back out because we aren't his first preference causes me psychic damage. We are smashing records in shitness. The fact he hasn't publicly said he has no interest in coming to us should be seen as a compliment in and of itself. To become a club where we DO become a preference for A graders, we need to improve. He will help us improve in the short and medium term. It just feels like it's born of hurt pride (our pride should be far more hurt by where we are as a club!) and overall is a silly argument, especially compared to valid ones like what an appropriate pick cost would be or how long he might have left in him at his current level.

He plays a relatively 'clean' position and a position of more and more importance as dozens of scores are launched from HB these days.

We could very well get 6-8 elite years out of Houston with his resilience. Zorko just smashed a season and GF at 35, and Houston is a much better kick and defender than him imo.

Houston has hardly missed a game over his career.

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[The Y Factor]

So why poach someone who isn’t keen?

Not sure he isn’t keen. I thinks it’s that he has a preference, the team with his best mate in it.

But he has said it’s not a deal breaker

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

One more push should takes us to part 3 and that new thread smell.

Trade Hard With A Vengeance

 

[marklovesbeer]

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****en lol

 

[Junk yard]

just get a small forward and Caleb Daniel

Hit the draft

The draft has not worked for us so far. At some stage we need to bite the bullet and trade, or LDU will retire with a heap of early draft picks and talent below him. We can't keep losing for another 3 or 4 years while we wait for our 24, 25 and 26 draft to come on.

 

[Junk yard]

We will know the answer to that statement with the first pick in the draft, we are getting a key forward and I'm pretty sure its our number one priority but if we can somehow split our pick then the answer is yes, if we don't or can't split and we have to use our pick 2 then it might be a case of predator vs alien, err sorry, key forward vs midfielder. We've looked at someone in the WAFL and elsewhere in Australia for a small forward so it will be interesting what happens in that department.

Had a chance to get Jasper Scaife in the mid season draft. Think he kicked 2 in his first and 4 in his second for box Hill after the draft and relocating across the country. Kid looks an absolute weapon and exactly what we needed.