List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.1

[gringo2011]

if we finish bottom 5/6 and Battle gets us band 1 compo, we have to go for it. He's a great player but we need mids with class, then more mids with class, then more mids with class after that. We'll probably screw it up Clark/Coffield style but a chance at top end talent is what we are after.

We should look at all the high accumulation mids available. I tried to suggest that we chase Matt Crouch, Lipinski, Tom Mitchell, Libba and a heap of other clearance mids and got laughed at.

We should be looking at guys like Macrae who might want out. Otherwise some pre developed mids. Finlay Macrae, Lazzaro, Sheldrick etc. Also look at some state players.

Will Snelling is still killing it in the SANFL. Finished 3rd in the Bombers B & F in 2021 before they delisted him when he was injured.

 

[Remboy]

Is that Hunter in the gym?

 

[Yawkey way]

I hope we’re having a chat to Jaxon Binns, he’s blocked at Carlton and they have two father sons arriving. He’s young with a massive engine and good speed, way too good to be stuck playing vfl.

Won their vfl best and fairest in his first season and is still killing it but can’t break into the senior side. Surely he’s thinking a change of clubs could be the smart move. I liked this kid in his draft year and have been following his form.

 

[gringo2011]

I hope we’re having a chat to Jaxon Binns, he’s blocked at Carlton and they have two father sons arriving. He’s young with a massive engine and good speed, way too good to be stuck playing vfl.

Won their vfl best and fairest in his first season and is still killing it but can’t break into the senior side. Surely he’s thinking a change of clubs could be the smart move. I liked this kid in his draft year and have been following his form.

Yeah, I'm a big fan. Wish we'd got him. They also have guys like Ashton Moir in reserve who could be worth a look. He was a potential pick one in his under 17 year.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

43 disposals for Binns on the weekend... nearly 20 more than the 2nd most disposals

Hard runner and more outside wingman than inside - not sure what his disposal is like?

 

[gringo2011]

43 disposals for Binns on the weekend... nearly 20 more than the 2nd most disposals

Hard runner and more outside wingman than inside - not sure what his disposal is like?

He had a game in his draft year, might have been metro v country where he looked incredible off HBF. Reminded me of Lauchie Ash. Skills looked neat. I've watched the Blues VFL side and he looked good at that level too. Had an incredible 2023 which was his first year. In his 3rd VFL game he had over 30 disposals and 2 goals.

 

[gringo2011]

 

[ULTIMATE_WARRIOR]

Surely no one actually thinks we’d get Band 1 Compo for Josh Battle

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Josh Battle

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26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

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Def

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Last 5

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12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

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3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

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2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

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3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

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1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

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4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

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2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

 

[MightySaint]

Surely no one actually thinks we’d get Band 1 Compo for Josh Battle

Who knows if someone decides to overpay. Dees lucked into band 1 for Frawley and got petracca and brayshaw. That's a premiership draft.

 

[botts]

Surely no one actually thinks we’d get Band 1 Compo for Josh Battle

Unrestricted normally get about 200k added on because no one can match.

 

[MightySaint]

We should look at all the high accumulation mids available. I tried to suggest that we chase Matt Crouch, Lipinski, Tom Mitchell, Libba and a heap of other clearance mids and got laughed at.

We should be looking at guys like Macrae who might want out. Otherwise some pre developed mids. Finlay Macrae, Lazzaro, Sheldrick etc. Also look at some state players.

Will Snelling is still killing it in the SANFL. Finished 3rd in the Bombers B & F in 2021 before they delisted him when he was injured.

I would like to draft and develop 2 quality mids, as well as going after some seniors for experience. We aren't winning anything without a quality midfield and with as good as Josh is, I'd take the chance on trying for a Brayshaw / Cerra draft and failing rather than going on the crap midfield merry go round again.
All of this is moot if someone (hawthorn) doesn't overpay for battle.

 

[botts]

I would like to draft and develop 2 quality mids, as well as going after some seniors for experience. We aren't winning anything without a quality midfield and with as good as Josh is, I'd take the chance on trying for a Brayshaw / Cerra draft and failing rather than going on the crap midfield merry go round again.
All of this is moot if someone (hawthorn) doesn't overpay for battle.

Apparently has multiple suiters. Pies pretty keen as are north. All got lots of cash

 

[beside the seaside]

Apparently has multiple suiters. Pies pretty keen as are north. All got lots of cash

He'd be a massive loss.

 

[MrFoster]

if we finish bottom 5/6 and Battle gets us band 1 compo, we have to go for it. He's a great player but we need mids with class, then more mids with class, then more mids with class after that. We'll probably screw it up Clark/Coffield style but a chance at top end talent is what we are after.

If we can get pick 5 and 6 (battle pick), then trade in 1 or 2 youngish mids (2nd round special like Will Philips, Berry), a ruckman that can actual win tap outs, then our midfield will be transformed very quickly.

 

[beside the seaside]

If we can get pick 5 and 6 (battle pick), then trade in 1 or 2 youngish mids (2nd round special like Will Philips, Berry), a ruckman that can actual win tap outs, then our midfield will be transformed very quickly.

I don't see how we get a first round compo for Battle.

Losing Battle to me isn't an option. We are going backwards if we lose Josh Battle, he's one of our best players and right in the age bracket we are lacking. Would be gut-wrenching to lose him.

 

[gringo2011]

I would like to draft and develop 2 quality mids, as well as going after some seniors for experience. We aren't winning anything without a quality midfield and with as good as Josh is, I'd take the chance on trying for a Brayshaw / Cerra draft and failing rather than going on the crap midfield merry go round again.
All of this is moot if someone (hawthorn) doesn't overpay for battle.

Battle won't be easy to replace. To me we just don't have enough fat to trim anything off without hurting ourselves.

 

[littlecreatures]

I don't see how we get a first round compo for Battle.

Losing Battle to me isn't an option. We are going backwards if we lose Josh Battle, he's one of our best players and right in the age bracket we are lacking. Would be gut-wrenching to lose him.

Agreed. Prime of his career, extremely versatile, gives it everything, clean by hand and foot, well respected at the club, and bleeds red, white and black. It would hurt.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Truthfully, Battle seems like a no-fuss culture builder.
Wary of gutting the wrong types to expedite our rebuild.
He’s a keep for mine, one of few who plays like a man.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Battle won't be easy to replace. To me we just don't have enough fat to trim anything off without hurting ourselves.

We have absolutely zero fat.
We should probably lose Membrey, Seb, Jones Allison and consider Hotton and Heath if they don't have the goods.
Doogs if he can be replaced with a younger FA.
Hayes if we can get a half reasonable offer while he still holds together.

 

[Teflon]

43 disposals for Binns on the weekend... nearly 20 more than the 2nd most disposals

Hard runner and more outside wingman than inside - not sure what his disposal is like?

This is the kind of smart business we need to do
Get it done we need mid talent

 

[WhiskySaint]

It won’t happen, so it doesn’t matter, but if someone offered pick 6 for battle you’d take it for where our list is at.
Bank two top ten picks and back in Arie or Keeler.

 

[Miha]

It won’t happen, so it doesn’t matter, but if someone offered pick 6 for battle you’d take it for where our list is at.
Bank two top ten picks and back in Arie or Keeler.

Battle is an unrestricted free agent, we’d get whatever the AFL calculator throws at us

 

[austinnn]

Had an interesting discussion with a mate this morning.

He thinks we should go after Hawkins for a 2 year playing/coaching role.

To help get the best out of Max and Hammer.

I've heard worse ideas.



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Been talking about this for weeks now - great idea imo

 

[CursingFijian]

King will benefit from having more big bodies alongside him.

Perhaps Marshall in the forward line making a key defender accountable. He has got the tank and marking power to get up the ground and provide good transition. I reckon he could play that Harry McKay

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Harry Mckay

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

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Last 5

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9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

/ Aaron Naughton

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Aaron Naughton

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

4.9

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

0.8

1star

G

0.5

4star

D

12.8

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

role. And Marshall would be an excellent back up ruck. Structurally it’s got potential and could be an option if we got a good young ruck in the Visenti mould.

Caminiti or Sharman as third banana could get off the leash as well.

I think we brought Dalrymple in knowing we are hitting the draft. And Lyon has been vocal about continuing to go back to that well.

If we’re going to be aggressively hunting draft picks, I’d probably prefer to trade Collard to Freo for one of their 3? first rounders, rather than lose Battle. And I really like Collards skill set (it’s got sizzle), but at this stage he’s still an unknown.

If we could get an early second for Clark I’d take it. And trading Mason Wood

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Mason Wood

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

now for a second (using the yes he’s old but is good for culture pitch) would be the definition of buy low sell high. And he’s not in our demographic if we’re brutally honest.

 

[Yawkey way]

Battle won't be easy to replace. To me we just don't have enough fat to trim anything off without hurting ourselves.

We’ve been caught again by blathering on about being a top 4 side and planning our trading etc on that. Thankfully we’ve moved on but the damage has been done. The older guys who should have been traded out that actually had value are now too old to get the returns we need. The next line coming through like battle are needed firstly for their talent and secondly so we don’t end up with a bunch of kids and no senior players around them.

In the nfl it’s generally accepted that you get the best value and results by trading players a year early rather than a year late. Anyway imo there’s no way we’ll get first round compo for battle so it’s really a moot point, offer him the contract he deserves and get on with planning for next year.