List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.3

[hangdog]

32 for Macrae.
45 for Kemp.

Take them or we walk and use the points on Peckett and Cole then use 7 and 8 on some guns.

Easy done.

As much as id like to get Macrae, 47 seemed a little low and we might have looked shit, if we offer 32 and Power says no, thats fine, he can look like a campaigner (hes also likely to end up holding his dick with Daniel, Smith and Macrae if he keeps his shit up).

Starting to think 32 for Macrea is fair enough. The bloke is absolutely a need, especially with Ross and likely Crouch gone.

The Bruce trade has been mentioned a few times, so i looked back on it. We traded a contracted Bruce for 32 and 51.

We turned those picks into Zac Jones and Ryan Byrnes.

Bruce went on to do bugger all, with a couple of injuries ultimately cutting his career short.

I'd say 32 with a overall pointless swap of WB F3 for our F4 would be fine.

 

[Sibaspud]

did he get suspended?

I think he upset the Carlton board and their mods gave him a day off.

 

[Sibaspud]

What time is trade period deadline today?

7:30pm

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Starting to think 32 for Macrea is fair enough. The bloke is absolutely a need, especially with Ross and likely Crouch gone.

The Bruce trade has been mentioned a few times, so i looked back on it. We traded a contracted Bruce for 32 and 51.

We turned those picks into Zac Jones and Ryan Byrnes.

Bruce went on to do bugger all, with a couple of injuries ultimately cutting his career short.

I'd say 32 with a overall pointless swap of WB F3 for our F4 would be fine.

Bruce was going very well until he did his ACL.

Don't forget that 32 is actually gonna be 28.

The Dogs can flick 47 (which will also come in a few picks) to the Blues for Kennedy, which will in turn help them match a Camporeale bid.

Win, win, win.

 

[bird_man]

Starting to think 32 for Macrea is fair enough. The bloke is absolutely a need, especially with Ross and likely Crouch gone.

The Bruce trade has been mentioned a few times, so i looked back on it. We traded a contracted Bruce for 32 and 51.

We turned those picks into Zac Jones and Ryan Byrnes.

Bruce went on to do bugger all, with a couple of injuries ultimately cutting his career short.

I'd say 32 with a overall pointless swap of WB F3 for our F4 would be fine.

He's 30 years old and we aren't pushing for a flag.

Giving up second round picks for 30 year olds is not where our list build is at.

 

[Saint Bostriots]

 

[RWB4life]

14 for a f1/f2 back on?

 

[King_Steele]

He's 30 years old and we aren't pushing for a flag.

Giving up second round picks for 30 year olds is not where our list build is at.

Sally can wait

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

FFS push for 10!


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[Armoooo]

Yeah 'always', like literally nothing for Henry for a second (returned in live trading), and bugger all for Dow for two future thirds and a fourth with with pick 40 and a future third coming back, Higgins and 21 for 17, Cordy for nothing .

Toce did not pick Garcia and Shoenmaker, SoS literally picked them. Toce was one of a bunch of recruiters who may or may not have seen them. Shoenmaker was a throw at the board at 62 anyway.

This making Toce a messiah is hilarious. He got all our good players apparently. What about Van Es, Hotton, Allison, Highmore, Adams, Peris? Nothing to do with Toce?

Really this hero worship of a recruiter is inexplicable. While good, he was just one of a whole team of recruiters and list managers. Saints messiah complex alive and kicking it seems.

I like Henry, but he wasn't worth a first round pick on the open market. A second round pick seems about right. He had a couple of good games and some good moments this year, but he still wouldn't attract a first round pick. The fact that GWS chucked us a freebie on draft night has nothing to do with his deal.

Higgins was for a 2nd round pick and a 1st round pick upgrade. Pretty fair value for a bloke that had some pretty big question marks over his long term health.

Dow is bog average. Not worth a 2nd round pick. I don't see him making it.

Cordy was a free agent, no negotiating required. Even still, was a nothing signing as he is depth at best, a list clogger at worst.

I don't know where it's been stated that Silvagni single handedly picked Garcia and Schoenmaker. But I'm happy to take your word for it.

Nobody is claiming that Toce was a messiah, your strawmanning doesn't strengthen your arguement. He just seemed competent, that's all I ask for.

All I judge Toce on is his record. Whilst he was in SA we seemed to identify promising talents, even if not all of them ended up being Callum Wilkie. Then when he was moved to head of recruiting we appear to have made sound choices with our early picks.

The guy hadn't put a foot wrong as far as I can see. But apparently Dalrymple is an improvement because of what he did at the dogs (I'm not overly impressed by his record at the swans outside of Warner and the academy players).

The proof will be in the pudding, Toce will have nowhere to hide if he doesn't land the next two drafts, similar with Dalrymple if he doesn't bring in some serious talent with picks 7 and 8.

I just don't think I would have been in any rush to completely revamp one area of the organisation which didn't appear to have any problems.

 

[Remboy]

Starting to think 32 for Macrea is fair enough. The bloke is absolutely a need, especially with Ross and likely Crouch gone.

The Bruce trade has been mentioned a few times, so i looked back on it. We traded a contracted Bruce for 32 and 51.

We turned those picks into Zac Jones and Ryan Byrnes.

Bruce went on to do bugger all, with a couple of injuries ultimately cutting his career short.

I'd say 32 with an overall pointless swap of WB F3 for our F4 would be fine.

Then use the F3 for Mrs Soldo with Soldo thrown in as steak knives and we win trade week.

 

[TassieSaint]

That's insane. About as bad as our deal for Hill on paper.

 

[MordySaint]

Sally can wait

2025 Liam and Noel Gallagher lift the Saints Premiership Cup at the Oasis Concert

I'm feeling it.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Poor bloke has been holding the trade board up for a week and a half and has to take the final day off.

#PutOutYourSouvlakis

 

[Remboy]

FFS push for 10!


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Surely our future first could get 10 or 11?

 

[HeavenlySources]

WOW we have been speculating about using 32/45 on macrae and the club offers 47 we are a serious club I love it. Take it or leave it doggies.

 

[Remboy]

2025 Liam and Noel Gallagher lift the Saints Premiership Cup at the Oasis Concert

I'm feeling it.

Pre match entertainment for the GF?

 

[Saints43]

He's 30 years old and we aren't pushing for a flag.

Giving up second round picks for 30 year olds is not where our list build is at.

Do we want Jack Steele playing another season without a reliable senior player next to him? We're ruining his reputation.
I think we need to get this done.
And I'm sure we will.

 

[Nutsngum]

That's insane. About as bad as our deal for Hill on paper.

Not even close. We gave up basically Pick 10, a second and Acres. Still a lot but not two picks in a "super draft"

 

[HeavenlySources]

Freo once again being dog walked by Richmond giving up 10,11 and 18 for Bolton and 14 + F3 is a weak trade. Richmond need the picks and Bolton wants out, should have just stayed on 10 + 18 that was more than fair.

Whats going on in WA? why are they so desperate

 

[Armoooo]

That's insane. About as bad as our deal for Hill on paper.

Fremantle have a top 4 midfield, the best ruck duo in the league, arguably the best contingent of tall forwards, spoilt for choice for key defenders.

Their only glaring weaknesses are dangerous small forwards and pace on the wings. Bolton helps address both of these and is a match winner.

I think this is a brilliant acquisition for Fremantle. Yes, they've paid a lot for him, but with where they're at I think it's an absolute no brainer.

They've essentially given up picks 13 and 14 for him. Around 50% of players taken at that range are busts. Even if there is a player of Bolton's talent taken with one of those picks they'd still likely need to wait 3 or 4 years before they're fully up and running.

Freo fans should be very happy imo.

 

[Banger9798]

FFS push for 10!


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F1 for 18 and 23?

More realistic.

Give 32 for McCrae and get a late pick back

7, 8, 18, 23

 

[Diehard Saint]

You may have missed it but 32 will up being 28 once the NGA & FS bids are done.

So essentially 45 was brought in for a one spot drop.

Great business IMO.

Which is why we should not be using it on Macrae.

 

[Spider Eater]

Freo once again being dog walked by Richmond giving up 10,11 and 18 for Bolton and 14 + F3 is a weak trade. Richmond need the picks and Bolton wants out, should have just stayed on 10 + 18 that was more than fair.

Whats going on in WA? why are they so desperate

Have to feel for Dard Ball Get being amongst it, hope he has boarded up all the windows.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I really dont think Freo will improve while Longmuir insists on playing the conscripted risk averse game plan. The rare occasions they do take the game on and run and dare they look capable of matching it with anyone. They just dont do it enough they crab sideways backwards far too often - they look like we did under Richardson/Ratten with a lot more talent.

Having said that if Longmuir moves towards a game similiar to the Hawks then Freo have the talent to win a flag.