Certified Legendary Thread 4th Test Border Gavaskar Trophy December 26-30 1000hrs @ the MCG

[Maddo11]

Or you stick your hand up and yell "NOOOO" over turning your back after their 2/3 of the way down. Kohli wasnt running to the danger end either.

Yep, he got caught out ball watching. They did show replays with the stump mics turned up and the batters call could have been louder and earlier so probably not 100% Kohli's fault, but a large percentage of blame can be attributed to him just watching the ball and turning his back

 

[revo333]

You could not be more wrong. Seriously, watch a match some time.

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All those numbers don't prove anything.

As you said 'Watch a match'

 

[western royboy]

Graeme Pollock could have been a great but apartheid South Africa robbed us of that

Barry Richards as well

 

[Saint12]

Yep, he got caught out ball watching. They did show replays with the stump mics turned up and the batters call could have been louder and earlier so probably not 100% Kohli's fault, but a large percentage of blame can be attributed to him just watching the ball and turning his back

Loud call is important but as the non batsman if you look at your partner and not the ball you know if he is coming or not

 

[peternorth]

Massive day in the context of the border gavaskar trophy series. Could be the most critical time when looking back in 10 years time.

 

[Headless]

Massive day in the context of the border gavaskar trophy series. Could be the most critical time when looking back in 10 years time.

I have set myself a calendar reminder.

 

[PhatBoy]

Always pick the match winner.

There is a reason why people don't rate Kallis as highly as his stats suggest he should be.

If Lara batted like Kallis he would have finished with an average close to 60.

Yes he only scored 21 centuries in test wins.

 

[philreich]

You're a very grim person
You complain the wicket is a road (it's not) then state it's a "cripple fight" between a not strong India and Australia and now whining about the game itself

Why do you even bother watching if it gives you such disappointment

You don't see 80,000 people rocking up to a cricket match 3 days in a row (today should complete the hat trick) if it's nothing more than a cripple fight. What an absurd suggestion.

 

[Borisdog]

Surely you jest. The last 15 years has been the era of the flat track bully. Fast bowlers graveyard the last 15 years.

There's been no shortage of sub 100 scores in the last 15 years. Most of them on lively tracks. Australia has been rolled for 47 and 60 in that time at a minimum. Probably a couple of others there from Aus under 100. Haven't looked too hard.

14 scores under 62 in 15 years, only a couple of them on turners.

The bats certainly make a flat pitch look worse, but a tough pitch is still tough.

I think the balls ( And outfields ) are starting to favour the bowlers a bit more now, which is good. 20 years ago you wouldn't have been able to read the writing on ANY ball anywhere in the world after 20 overs.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Or you stick your hand up and yell "NOOOO" over turning your back after their 2/3 of the way down. Kohli wasnt running to the danger end either.

Lol

Both ends were danger ends because it was a suicide run and either would have been run out by miles with a direct hit, even if they'd both gone straight away

Stupid call. Jaiswal got it badly wrong

 

[revo333]

Yes he only scored 21 centuries in test wins.

How many when the West Indies were shit house?

Stats Stats Stats!

 

[sosos]

Wake up, look out the window, looks like a beautiful day in Melbourne...

Checks weather map...

Dammit!

 

[Gough]

Barry Richards as well

That ate him up, Andrew Murtagh wrote an excellent book on him where he talked about it in. One of his sons committed suicide too which broke me when I read it because I remembered him running about Adelaide Oval as a little kid when Richrads coached here.

 

[t_94]

Maybe but I think people also overlook how much harder the last 15 years have been for batters than they were during the 90's and 2000's

Moreso the last 5-6 years.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

You could not be more wrong. Seriously, watch a match some time.

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Haha, what the hell does that mean?

 

[Xtreme]

Massive day in the context of the border gavaskar trophy series. Could be the most critical time when looking back in 10 years time.

India will have a first innings lead of 175 by tea, no worries mate!

 

[t_94]

That ate him up, Alistair Hignell wrote an excellent book on him where he talked about it in. One of his sons committed suicide too which broke me when I read it because I remembered him running about Adelaide Oval as a little kid when Richrads coached here.

Don Bradman picked Richards as one of the openers in his all time 11.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Weather looks very pleasant out there.... Reckon another huge crowd due today being a Saturday...

 

[Underarm]

Haha, what the hell does that mean?

Runs per wicket for the last 500 tests is the worst it's been since the first 500 tests. It's literally the hardest period to bat.

 

[sosos]

Lol

Both ends were danger ends because it was a suicide run and either would have been run out by miles with a direct hit, even if they'd both gone straight away

Stupid call. Jaiswal got it badly wrong

Was probably a mistake to go for the quick single, but it wasn't suicidal.

Kohli failed to backup, look at the caller, or heed the call. They are all his duties as the non striker, and the non caller.

To then reprimand his young team mate in the middle of a packed MCG compounds the errors with a failure to acknowledge his culpability in the dismissal.

 

[carltonchelsea]

Or you stick your hand up and yell "NOOOO" over turning your back after their 2/3 of the way down. Kohli wasnt running to the danger end either.

In that case I’m still heading back to the pavilion and not the old fella, as he is still making the run and he tells me to leave my crease, that’s just the way it was.

 

[PhatBoy]

How many when the West Indies were shit house?

Stats Stats Stats!

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Kallis hit 21 test centuries in test wins.


Lara managed 8 and only two of them came after 2001.

Lara is my favourite player of all time and the most thrilling, dynamic and watchable batsman I’ve seen and played the best bowler of his generation - Shane Warne - like he was a net bowler.

But people have been looking for holes in Kallis’ record and contribution to the game for years because of the perception that he was boring. There are none. Yes he scored slower than other batsmen. I daresay if it was out of the ‘selfishness’ often associated to him, he would have told them to jam it when they asked him to bowl 3,300 overs of fast-medium outswing, and just concentrated on his batting. He batted the way he did because it’s what his team needed. He spent his career in batting line ups surrounded by players like Gibbs, Cronje, Cullinan, Pollock and later De Villiers, Smith, Amla, Boucher. His job was to play the way he did. Same as Ashwell Prince. Calm amidst the whatever else was happening. And then when he needed to, he could lift the rate; he’s one of the all time leading six hitters in history.

 

[Borisdog]

???
Kallis hit 21 test centuries in test wins.


Lara managed 8 and only two of them came after 2001.

Lara is my favourite player of all time and the most thrilling, dynamic and watchable batsman I’ve seen and played the best bowler of his generation - Shane Warne - like he was a net bowler.

But people have been looking for holes in Kallis’ record and contribution to the game for years because of the perception that he was boring. There are none. Yes he scored slower than other batsmen. I daresay if it was out of the ‘selfishness’ often associated to him, he would have told them to jam it when they asked him to bowl 3,300 overs of fast-medium outswing, and just concentrated on his batting. He batted the way he did because it’s what his team needed. He spent his career in batting line ups surrounded by players like Gibbs, Cronje, Cullinan, Pollock and later De Villiers, Smith, Amla, Boucher. His job was to play the way he did. Same as Ashwell Prince. Calm amidst the whatever else was happening. And then when he needed to, he could lift the rate; he’s one of the all time leading six hitters in history.

Grossly, grossly underrated is Kallis by "fans". Not so much by people closer to the game.

Without any question the best All rounder I've seen in my lifetime. And I'm over 60 so I've seen many good ones.

I didn't see Sobers but I'd suggest he'd be the only one better. Miller by contemporary accounts also.

Stats aren't everything.

 

[philreich]

Within reason. The spirit of cricket still needs to be upheld. What Kohli did wasn't good. We don't want to see that in cricket games at any level. He shouldn't have done it and being a senior player, he should know better.

He'll probably do something similar in England, because he knows he's untouchable.

 

[beatnik]

'We only had to draw it to win it' - said in all seriousness - while accusing the person of pointing out how ridiculous this plainly oxymoronic statement is of having 'brainrot'.

Incredible. And hilarious.

The phrase that upset you is just a statement of how it works…if you want to make an argument for changing the rules then do that instead of crying about others refusing to have the same feels as you

Do you similarly tear up when a team wins the Sheffield Shield final on a draw?