Game Day AFL Finals 2024 - Match discussion party thread

[Thrillthorpe7]

Looks like Sloane voted on impact, not looking at stats.

That is how our group called it, and not one of us looked at stats.

Statwatcher v Footywatcher


Neale had a great game, but those three made the most impact.



Lions really had no passengers. Every player stood up when they had to. Only player you could suggest had an off day was Charlie. But even he did some good things, tackles and key contest wins.


There was no "Billy Frampton" in this Lions side.




You can see this Lions side winning a few flags because of the depth across all lines.

I thought Neale was better early and visibly just noticed him everywhere, but Ashcroft came home stronger and also kicked that brilliant goal.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

AFC rating problems confirmed.

I thought those 3 all had a bigger impact on the game. Ashcroft was consistent across the whole game, Ah Chee looked dangerous all day and was involved in a heap of scoring chains, while Lohmann gave them a massive spark when the game was on the line in the 1st half.

Didn't look at stats until post game, but before that thought Ashcroft and Ah Chee were the top two players on the ground. Had Neale in there during the 1st half, but he faded a bit (fair enough given the injury he's carried for a month).

 

[Mutineer]

Mutineer should be given credit for his judgement in pushing Lohmann the showman during his draft season.

Going to be a good draft this year for the Rebels too, I think all of Sam Lalor (mid/forward), Ollie Hannaford (small forward/mid), Jack Ough (tall mid/utility) and Jonty Faull (KPF) will all be off the board by the 2nd round, later/rookie chances in order I think Floyd Burmeister KPF/Ruck), Rhys Unwin (small forward/mid), Harry Charleson (small/medium defender) Flynn Penry (Ruck) all have AFL attributes.

Any of those that don't get drafted in the later/rookie category especially Flynn Penry i'd like us to have a look at with the new SANFL player rules being looked at currently. Matty Lloyd (192cm athletic defender) and Will Rantall 192cm defender) as well for the SANFL team

 

[El Doederino]

Next time somebody references champion data

 

[latinoheat]

Next time somebody references champion data

Do we know who the 4 were? I don’t think I’d have a Sydney player in the top 10!

 

[cleanhands]

Next time somebody references champion data

 

[FR0GGY]

Do we know who the 4 were? I don’t think I’d have a Sydney player in the top 10!

Grundy would be one maybe rowbottom the other?

 

[FR0GGY]

So Heeney played with a stress fracture in his ankle for the finals, you wouldn’t know it in the first two games.

 

[1970crow]

I have to eat some humble pie, I never thought Fagan was going to take Brisbane to a flag.

I was strong on that too, unltil last year.

 

[1970crow]

Even our forward line is miles off Daniher, Hipwood, Cameron, Archee, Lohmann and Rayner and whoever else rotates through there. There are a few roles players in there but every one of them could have a day out.

Who plays the Murphy defensive role for them?

 

[Cromulant]

Who plays the Murphy defensive role for them?

Ah Chee, he just doesn't do it right..... he kicks goals unlike Murphy

 

[Cromulant]

So Heeney played with a stress fracture in his ankle for the finals, you wouldn’t know it in the first two games.

It suddenly got MUCH worse with about 5 minutes to go in the first half.

Or was that his heart ??

 

[StonesThrow]

Mutineer should be given credit for his judgement in pushing Lohmann the showman during his draft season.

If you have enough 'boys' you're bound to get one right

 

[DJ75]

Do we know who the 4 were? I don’t think I’d have a Sydney player in the top 10!

I didn’t think they had a single player that won their position. Maybe Grundy, but he had zero impact on the game.

 

[1970crow]

Will be interesting to see if the media hound Sydney as complete failures - ala Adelaide after 2017

Sydney clearly on top all year, the perfect route to the GF. No significant injuries (we did hav e a couple)

No excuses - and got completely dismantled from go to woe


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I'm not sure we were labelled complete failures, but rather failures on the day. The power stance did open us up to criticism on that. But so far Sydney are absolutely having the same and more questions asked on failing again on the big stage. I doubt the coaching group will blame the players mental weakness and organise a pseudo-scientific camp to alter them though. So if you're expecting theat type of industry wide criticism, you'll be disappointed.

 

[crow2crow]

Not sure I agree, Brisbane players were running on top of the ground whereas Sydney players looked like they had lead in their shoes.
Sure it wasn’t straight line speed , but the ability to get past 2 to 3 opponents. Neale and Ashcroft did this often .

that was after the game was killed at HT

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Have to laugh how Dunkley could’ve been a father son, but Swans didn’t have enough points to match his bid. Now he has won two flags both against Sydney.

 

[hugecannon]

Have to laugh how Dunkley could’ve been a father son, but Swans didn’t have enough points to match his bid. Now he has won two flags both against Sydney.

He didn’t want to play for Sydney, his preference was to stay in Melbourne at the time.

 

[SugarShane]

I know Neale is probably their best player, but how do we feel about him forcing himself back on for the last 5 minutes? By his own admission he could barely walk. He'd done the hard yards, got them into a position to win, and honestly could've sat next to the coach on the bench but demanded someone else come off so that he could limp around for 5 minutes to be there when the siren went.

I dunno, for sure you'd want to be on field at that moment, but when big O has missed the game entirely, it seemed pretty self centred to me. Maybe he's earned it though.

 

[FR0GGY]

I know Neale is probably their best player, but how do we feel about him forcing himself back on for the last 5 minutes? By his own admission he could barely walk. He'd done the hard yards, got them into a position to win, and honestly could've sat next to the coach on the bench but demanded someone else come off so that he could limp around for 5 minutes to be there when the siren went.

I dunno, for sure you'd want to be on field at that moment, but when big O has missed the game entirely, it seemed pretty self centred to me. Maybe he's earned it though.

I think if anyone at that club has earnt the right it’s him, not as if he has 3 flags under the belt.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

I know Neale is probably their best player, but how do we feel about him forcing himself back on for the last 5 minutes? By his own admission he could barely walk. He'd done the hard yards, got them into a position to win, and honestly could've sat next to the coach on the bench but demanded someone else come off so that he could limp around for 5 minutes to be there when the siren went.

I dunno, for sure you'd want to be on field at that moment, but when big O has missed the game entirely, it seemed pretty self centred to me. Maybe he's earned it though.

He's absolutely earned it! I wouldn't care if he just sat on the ground

 

[Cromulant]

Senior players have every right to pull rank at that moment IMO. Might be a touch self-centred rather than selfish but he's earned it.

 

[FR0GGY]

He's absolutely earned it! I wouldn't care if he just sat on the ground

Yep, will be estatic next year when Tex says I’m on for the last 5 thanks Matthew.

 

[Cromulant]

Yep, will be estatic next year when Tex says I’m on for the last 5 thanks Matthew.

If we are by some miracle in that position next year Tex simply cant be on the bench, hell even if he's not in the 23 just pull him out of the crowd.

 

[Scorpus]

I know Neale is probably their best player, but how do we feel about him forcing himself back on for the last 5 minutes? By his own admission he could barely walk. He'd done the hard yards, got them into a position to win, and honestly could've sat next to the coach on the bench but demanded someone else come off so that he could limp around for 5 minutes to be there when the siren went.

I dunno, for sure you'd want to be on field at that moment, but when big O has missed the game entirely, it seemed pretty self centred to me. Maybe he's earned it though.

I reckon the captain of the club deserves to be on the ground in the last few minutes when the game was already over at half time