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[gokangas]

Human rights lawyer Kate Eastman appointed in last-ditch attempt for mediation in Hawthorn racism saga​

A last-ditch attempt has been launched to avoid the Hawthorn racism saga being dragged to a Federal Court hearing. MARK ROBINSON has exclusive details.
Mark RobinsonChief Football Writer

September 17, 2024 - 5:48PM

Hawthorn and a number of its former Indigenous players and their families, led by Cyril Rioli, will attempt 11th-hour mediation in a bid to avoid a Federal Court hearing.
In a major development, human rights lawyer Kate Eastman has been appointed the independent mediator in the long-running racism scandal.
A date for mediation has not been set, but Federal Court judge Justice Mark Moshinsky has ordered it must take place before November 22.
A source said the Hawks were hoping the mediation would be successful so the scandal would not continue to hang over the club into the 2025 season.

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan have denied any wrongdoing. Picture: Colleen Petch.
Rioli, his wife Shannyn Ah Sam-Rioli, and two other former players, Carl Peterson and Jermaine Miller-Lewis, his wife Montanah, and the Hawks’ former Indigenous liaison officer Leon Egan have claimed they endured racism when at the club.
Senior Hawthorn staffers at the time, coach Alastair Clarkson, now Brisbane coach Chris Fagan and Jason Burt, have all vehemently denied any wrongdoing since the allegations surfaced in September 2022.
As part of the mediation process, the Hawks are required to present all documents, evidence and statements to the court by the end of this week. The Indigenous players and the families must put forward their documents and statements by October 25.

Alastair Clarkson and Cyril Rioli in 2015. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Lawyers will then be engaged in the mediation process with Ms Eastman.
If the matter can’t be resolved, it is listed to return to court on December 3 for further direction. At present, the trial has been listed for June next year.
“As we have always said, we will continue to work through the Federal Court process, including any mediation, in good faith,” Hawthorn president Andy Gowers said on Tuesday.
Ms Eastman is one Australia’s leading human rights barristers and in 2023 was recognised by the Law Council of Australia with its prestigious President’s Award.
Announcing the award, Law Council president Tass Liveris said Ms Eastman’s 30-year commitment to assisting human rights cases included representing Yazidi women trafficked into Syria, David Hicks during his time in Guantanamo Bay, asylum seekers, women experiencing sexual violence, children with disabilities seeking access to education and war-crimes investigations.

Clarkson previously said mediation in March had been ‘really productive’. Picture: Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)
Previous attempts at mediation in the Hawks’ case have failed, although Clarkson was buoyed by the two days of talks held in Melbourne in March this year.
“The last two days have represented the first chance that we’ve had to sit down together and do what you should always do in trying to resolve difficult situations, and that’s talk about it,’’ Clarkson said at the time.
“That was really productive and a worthwhile two days, but the process is actually incomplete and until such time that it is over, then we’re bound by confidentiality to not discuss anything about the proceedings at all.’’
Hawthorn has been contacted for comment.

 

[Merlin007]

Human rights lawyer Kate Eastman appointed in last-ditch attempt for mediation in Hawthorn racism saga​

A last-ditch attempt has been launched to avoid the Hawthorn racism saga being dragged to a Federal Court hearing. MARK ROBINSON has exclusive details.
Mark RobinsonChief Football Writer

September 17, 2024 - 5:48PM

Hawthorn and a number of its former Indigenous players and their families, led by Cyril Rioli, will attempt 11th-hour mediation in a bid to avoid a Federal Court hearing.
In a major development, human rights lawyer Kate Eastman has been appointed the independent mediator in the long-running racism scandal.
A date for mediation has not been set, but Federal Court judge Justice Mark Moshinsky has ordered it must take place before November 22.
A source said the Hawks were hoping the mediation would be successful so the scandal would not continue to hang over the club into the 2025 season.

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan have denied any wrongdoing. Picture: Colleen Petch.
Rioli, his wife Shannyn Ah Sam-Rioli, and two other former players, Carl Peterson and Jermaine Miller-Lewis, his wife Montanah, and the Hawks’ former Indigenous liaison officer Leon Egan have claimed they endured racism when at the club.
Senior Hawthorn staffers at the time, coach Alastair Clarkson, now Brisbane coach Chris Fagan and Jason Burt, have all vehemently denied any wrongdoing since the allegations surfaced in September 2022.
As part of the mediation process, the Hawks are required to present all documents, evidence and statements to the court by the end of this week. The Indigenous players and the families must put forward their documents and statements by October 25.

Alastair Clarkson and Cyril Rioli in 2015. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Lawyers will then be engaged in the mediation process with Ms Eastman.
If the matter can’t be resolved, it is listed to return to court on December 3 for further direction. At present, the trial has been listed for June next year.
“As we have always said, we will continue to work through the Federal Court process, including any mediation, in good faith,” Hawthorn president Andy Gowers said on Tuesday.
Ms Eastman is one Australia’s leading human rights barristers and in 2023 was recognised by the Law Council of Australia with its prestigious President’s Award.
Announcing the award, Law Council president Tass Liveris said Ms Eastman’s 30-year commitment to assisting human rights cases included representing Yazidi women trafficked into Syria, David Hicks during his time in Guantanamo Bay, asylum seekers, women experiencing sexual violence, children with disabilities seeking access to education and war-crimes investigations.

Clarkson previously said mediation in March had been ‘really productive’. Picture: Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)
Previous attempts at mediation in the Hawks’ case have failed, although Clarkson was buoyed by the two days of talks held in Melbourne in March this year.
“The last two days have represented the first chance that we’ve had to sit down together and do what you should always do in trying to resolve difficult situations, and that’s talk about it,’’ Clarkson said at the time.
“That was really productive and a worthwhile two days, but the process is actually incomplete and until such time that it is over, then we’re bound by confidentiality to not discuss anything about the proceedings at all.’’
Hawthorn has been contacted for comment.

here's hoping

 

[DuckYeah]

Human rights lawyer Kate Eastman appointed in last-ditch attempt for mediation in Hawthorn racism saga​

A last-ditch attempt has been launched to avoid the Hawthorn racism saga being dragged to a Federal Court hearing. MARK ROBINSON has exclusive details.
Mark RobinsonChief Football Writer

September 17, 2024 - 5:48PM

Hawthorn and a number of its former Indigenous players and their families, led by Cyril Rioli, will attempt 11th-hour mediation in a bid to avoid a Federal Court hearing.
In a major development, human rights lawyer Kate Eastman has been appointed the independent mediator in the long-running racism scandal.
A date for mediation has not been set, but Federal Court judge Justice Mark Moshinsky has ordered it must take place before November 22.
A source said the Hawks were hoping the mediation would be successful so the scandal would not continue to hang over the club into the 2025 season.

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan have denied any wrongdoing. Picture: Colleen Petch.
Rioli, his wife Shannyn Ah Sam-Rioli, and two other former players, Carl Peterson and Jermaine Miller-Lewis, his wife Montanah, and the Hawks’ former Indigenous liaison officer Leon Egan have claimed they endured racism when at the club.
Senior Hawthorn staffers at the time, coach Alastair Clarkson, now Brisbane coach Chris Fagan and Jason Burt, have all vehemently denied any wrongdoing since the allegations surfaced in September 2022.
As part of the mediation process, the Hawks are required to present all documents, evidence and statements to the court by the end of this week. The Indigenous players and the families must put forward their documents and statements by October 25.

Alastair Clarkson and Cyril Rioli in 2015. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Lawyers will then be engaged in the mediation process with Ms Eastman.
If the matter can’t be resolved, it is listed to return to court on December 3 for further direction. At present, the trial has been listed for June next year.
“As we have always said, we will continue to work through the Federal Court process, including any mediation, in good faith,” Hawthorn president Andy Gowers said on Tuesday.
Ms Eastman is one Australia’s leading human rights barristers and in 2023 was recognised by the Law Council of Australia with its prestigious President’s Award.
Announcing the award, Law Council president Tass Liveris said Ms Eastman’s 30-year commitment to assisting human rights cases included representing Yazidi women trafficked into Syria, David Hicks during his time in Guantanamo Bay, asylum seekers, women experiencing sexual violence, children with disabilities seeking access to education and war-crimes investigations.

Clarkson previously said mediation in March had been ‘really productive’. Picture: Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)
Previous attempts at mediation in the Hawks’ case have failed, although Clarkson was buoyed by the two days of talks held in Melbourne in March this year.
“The last two days have represented the first chance that we’ve had to sit down together and do what you should always do in trying to resolve difficult situations, and that’s talk about it,’’ Clarkson said at the time.
“That was really productive and a worthwhile two days, but the process is actually incomplete and until such time that it is over, then we’re bound by confidentiality to not discuss anything about the proceedings at all.’’
Hawthorn has been contacted for comment.

here's hoping

What is it they want? Is this a last ditch attempt because their lawyers have advised they have zero chance in the fed court?

 

[ChairmanZia]

Then pay.

not giving a single cent to these murdoch scums.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Looks like the plaintiff is trying to maximise payout.

Let's go to the courts and let everything out in the open.

 

[ferball]

Its only just hit me that Fagan is heaps shorter than Clarko. WTF!!!

 

[Lomas]

Its only just hit me that Fagan is heaps shorter than Clarko. WTF!!!

Too much time in QLD, no daylight savings.

 

[ferball]

At least his curtains won't fade faster.

 

[RightWingRoo]

Its only just hit me that Fagan is heaps shorter than Clarko. WTF!!!

Would make Fagan about Libba Snr height?

 

[FlyHigh18]

I see Mark Robinson stayed up late again to bring us the latest news.

 

[The Warlord]

AFAIK this is mediation ordered by the Fed Court no?

Will be interesting to see if Zwier keeps playing chicken - reckon it could get resolved here, but I've been wrong before.

Given we know the last mediation was good for Clarko, keen for this to go ahead as well.

 

[gokangas]

AFAIK this is mediation ordered by the Fed Court no?

Will be interesting to see if Zwier keeps playing chicken - reckon it could get resolved here, but I've been wrong before.

Given we know the last mediation was good for Clarko, keen for this to go ahead as well.

Let's hope so. Has to be a resolution at some stage.

 

[The Warlord]

Let's hope so. Has to be a resolution at some stage.

Yeah, I reckon some of the families might be at the "yeah had a gutful of this" stage.

 

[gokangas]

Yeah, I reckon some of the families might be at the "yeah had a gutful of this" stage.

I think the legal folk will just be hanging for the best $$$s - they are now very invested in this case (I assume no win no fee), whilst the families seem to be hung up on the wording of the apology if the rumours are right.

 

[The Warlord]

Prevented from coming face to face with former Hawthorn player Carl Peterson – the First Nations families had insisted Fagan must be confronted by all the complainants or none – the Peterson allegations which he has always denied still weighed upon him.

Jeez.

It must have come as some comfort to him that of all the players who continued to check in on him, it was Charlie Cameron

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who did so regularly after they initially made their inquiries into what had taken place during his time at Hawthorn.

Maybe the Tuck Shop King Rusty Jackson could have made some inquiries into what happened too.

‘Things were piling up’: Emotional struggles, cancer scare almost made Fagan walk away

The Lions coach was undergoing tests for two types of cancer. His team was sitting at two wins and five losses, with the aftershock of the Hawthorn racism allegations still infiltrating most days. The pressure had become too much.

www.theage.com.au

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Fagan was able to overcome all this stuff to win a flag from an improbable position, yet we’re blaming it for us not being able to win more than 4 games….

 

[LB2Snake]

Fagan was able to overcome all this stuff to win a flag from an improbable position, yet we’re blaming it for us not being able to win more than 4 games….

You don't think Fagan was more of a sideshow to Clarko in the reporting?

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

You don't think Fagan was more of a sideshow to Clarko in the reporting?

Was still named as being involved.

He was able to put it aside and coach his side to a flag, after being 2-7….

 

[blackshadow]

Fagan was able to overcome all this stuff to win a flag from an improbable position, yet we’re blaming it for us not being able to win more than 4 games….

Clarko was always the main man in the gun.

The whole charade was set up by Kennett in a ham-fisted attempt to get back at Clarkson - Fagan and anyone else was just collateral damage.

Different people handle this type of pressure differently. Fagan is away from the pressure cooker of Melbourne media most of the time. In Melbourne it's relentless.

 

[The Warlord]

Was still named as being involved.

He was able to put it aside and coach his side to a flag, after being 2-7….

The reason Fagan's Brisbane is better than ours is they've had him as coach for straight years.

Please stop ruining every thread with your endless sooking

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

The reason Fagan's Brisbane is better than ours is they've had him as coach for straight years.

Please stop ruining every thread with your endless sooking

Keep those pom poms waving.

 

[Only Forwards]

Was still named as being involved.

He was able to put it aside and coach his side to a flag, after being 2-7….

Yeah so this is a thing in life where people experience things through their own prism of reality.

The same boiling water that makes eggs hard will make root vegetables soft.

You straight up already know there is significantly more context around the Brisbane and North relative positions than you’ve posted.

If the same situations create the same results how come Dick Carey wasn’t one of the greatest to pull on boots?

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Yeah so this is a thing in life where people experience things through their own prism of reality.

The same boiling water that makes eggs hard will make root vegetables soft.

You straight up already know there is significantly more context around the Brisbane and North relative positions than you’ve posted.

If the same situations create the same results how come Dick Carey wasn’t one of the greatest to pull on boots?

One is based on your actually ability to perform a task whilst the other is your ability to put to the side things that may affect your focus.

I’ll continue to maintain that I don’t believe that Clarko will be the coach of this club after 2025/26.

His performances and gameplan over the last two seasons have been well under what he’s supposedly able to produce, bearing in mind his golden years will be over a decade ago just as Sheedy’s were when he went to GWS and he took them nowhere.

He looks bereft of answers and his ‘we know where we are’ schtick wears thin when there is no improvement W/L (because that’s all that matters.) He’s being paid a phenomenal amount of money to achieve results.

What happens when we finish bottom four again, which is likely?

We know where we’re at.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

It was widely reported and acknowledged that the grand sum of Chris Fagan's culpability is that he is alleged to have nodded once in a meeting. If you can't recognise false equivalence here, then your capacity for discernment is seriously wanting.