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Bluemour Discussion Thread III
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JustaBattler
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Adelaide " we need Gibbs Carlton - so hand him over "
Carlton "sounds like a plan - what are you offering"
Adelaide "well....our first rounder"
Carlton "and?"
Adelaide " a steakknife we dont want"
Carlton "and?"
Adeliade "well you like steak knives"
Carlton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Adelaide " we need Gibbs Carlton - so hand him over "
Carlton "sounds like a plan - what are you offering"
Adelaide "well....our first rounder"
Carlton "and?"
Adelaide " a steakknife we dont want"
Carlton "and?"
Adeliade "well you like steak knives"
Carlton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So did I
HalAlaric
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Heard some whispers that we have renegotiated and would accept
Gibbs -----> 13, McGovern & Dear
Mitch McGovern – 21yo Key Forward who plays taller due to his athleticism. 23 games in 2016.
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/118015/Mitch-MCGOVERN
Harry Dear - 20yo Key Forward who is tall and powerfully built. 0 games in 2016 (injury).
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/119356/Harry-DEAR
Gibbs -----> 13, McGovern & Dear
Mitch McGovern – 21yo Key Forward who plays taller due to his athleticism. 23 games in 2016.
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/118015/Mitch-MCGOVERN
Harry Dear - 20yo Key Forward who is tall and powerfully built. 0 games in 2016 (injury).
http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/119356/Harry-DEAR
No chance....That's pretty much valuing Gibbs more than Dangerfield last season...
Gibbs 24 for McGovern and 13 seems fair.
Its simple.
Adelaide start talking and SOS stops them dead flat. Calmly says to their recruitment team, "i understand you want bryce, im not going to put a price on him directly, if he is your final piece then id like to know what a premiership is worth to you instead? Or good luck finding another midfielder, now continue with your pitch"
Adelaide start talking and SOS stops them dead flat. Calmly says to their recruitment team, "i understand you want bryce, im not going to put a price on him directly, if he is your final piece then id like to know what a premiership is worth to you instead? Or good luck finding another midfielder, now continue with your pitch"
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Dangerfield was a restricted free agent.
Gibbs is contracted for 3 more years.
Big difference.
Cats didn't have much to give and Danger was uncontracted
Gotta compare apples with apples.
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No way that trade happens, even if we throw in our second rounder we are doing well.
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Yes, I agree. I just disagree with your Dangerfield statement, totally different scenarios.
This offer seems to be Carlton's starting point. They will likely meet half way.
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Drop both on there... This could go one of two ways boys... Prepare yourselves.
Got to hold their arms & legs, takes 4 blokes, apparently.....You can do that?
I would happily give up 24 if it meant McGovern came back the other way. He is quality and fills an area of desperate need.....certainly worth more than an unknown at 24.
Dramoth
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Lose the 24 and that's about right.
People really need to stop referencing the Dangerfield deal in valuing players. Adelaide DID NOT get value for Danger, so it's invalid to use it as a "hes nott betta dan Danger!!!1111" argument. Gibbs' value probably is about what Cats paid for Danger. What Danger was worth was way the hell more than that, but no contracty, no valuey.
TBF on that one we basically forced him out by not giving him any opportunities and weren't that upset when he left or the compensation we received.
In hindsight it looks like we got shafted, but given we were trading a ruckman that we wouldn't give a game ahead of Shaun Hampson I don't think there was ever much value there.
Dramoth
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that would be Byrne when he gets back on the park next year. And Adam Kennedy from GWS.
Exactly. Crows say Gibbs + 24 gets 13 and Lyons hoping that the Blues say forget about the 24 you are not getting that. Crows fake disappointment and settle for Gibbs only.
We say 13 Mcgoven + Deer hoping the Crows say we can have 13 mcgovern but not deer.
Dangerfield deal does not come into it. Totally different situation.
Damn straight,why would we trade him there to pay part of his salary when we can keep him for 3 years and pay all of it, as per his current contract.
Dramoth
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Like AA and Carlton platers go together with the mob they have on the panel.
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