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Autopsy Cats lose to Suns by 19 points
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And Whyte. Give the kids a run.It’s youth time.
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HonestlY GC should had won by a lot more with they way we played , but it’s a good point that we haven’t been wiped off the park score wise in the last few weeks
Still…geez…I’m struggling to see them turning it around after todays game it was deplorable …small nuggets of good play and skills but overall mostly terrible terrible stuff
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If the Hawks beat us next week, then the season is shot.
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The irony of all this is for the first time in a long time, the heavy training load excuse might actually make some sense.
If there's any truth to some of the stories and reports that they were partying for a long time, I have zero doubt that over the last few weeks the players would be getting flogged on the track.
So now we're in this weird spot where we're not fit, and we're sore because we're trying to get fit again.
Unfortunately, that's probably going to take another month or so at minimum to fix.
If there's any truth to some of the stories and reports that they were partying for a long time, I have zero doubt that over the last few weeks the players would be getting flogged on the track.
So now we're in this weird spot where we're not fit, and we're sore because we're trying to get fit again.
Unfortunately, that's probably going to take another month or so at minimum to fix.
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I don’t understand what is going on with the players either. I have never felt that we could realistically be premiership favourites when we had the oldest list on record. How could it be that the players over 30 that were instrumental in winning the premiership would get better or even hold their own against 2022?
I’m not potting anyone but I think it’s unreasonable to think Tom can be better than last year. Same with Touhy. Rohan must lose some pace and the pressure from last year can’t be as significant. Stanley must lose some of his athleticism to get back to support defence. And as crucial as Danger was at the back end of the year we can’t expect it to be at that high level throughout. Similar things can apply to Duncan, Blitz, and Issy. But not all will go backwards. And I’m not suggesting that they should be dropped. And I anticipate younger members of the squad will progress and the new recruits will pick up some of the load.
Also, I don’t believe with the culture of the club that the players collectively would have come back underdone.
Not withstanding the above, I’ve also felt that the players have looked heavy in the legs and we are getting beaten on the spread.
Putting all this aside, and listening to what Scott has been saying about doing things a bit different again, I can only think (and hoping) that they are loading the players early with a view of not doing this later in the season. Maybe this is just wishful thinking.
I know we’ve also had injuries, but I can’t think the drop can’t be all age related. There’s got to be something else going on. I can only put faith in the club, the coaches, and players. If all else fails just watch the replay again.
I’m not potting anyone but I think it’s unreasonable to think Tom can be better than last year. Same with Touhy. Rohan must lose some pace and the pressure from last year can’t be as significant. Stanley must lose some of his athleticism to get back to support defence. And as crucial as Danger was at the back end of the year we can’t expect it to be at that high level throughout. Similar things can apply to Duncan, Blitz, and Issy. But not all will go backwards. And I’m not suggesting that they should be dropped. And I anticipate younger members of the squad will progress and the new recruits will pick up some of the load.
Also, I don’t believe with the culture of the club that the players collectively would have come back underdone.
Not withstanding the above, I’ve also felt that the players have looked heavy in the legs and we are getting beaten on the spread.
Putting all this aside, and listening to what Scott has been saying about doing things a bit different again, I can only think (and hoping) that they are loading the players early with a view of not doing this later in the season. Maybe this is just wishful thinking.
I know we’ve also had injuries, but I can’t think the drop can’t be all age related. There’s got to be something else going on. I can only put faith in the club, the coaches, and players. If all else fails just watch the replay again.
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There are a few factors involved in our poor start to the season but IMO the biggest factor has been our midfield, who have been smashed three weeks running.
RD1 - J Daicos, Pendlebury and De Goey all have 25+ touches (more than any Cat); Collingwood win the clearances and inside 50s.
RD2 - Cripps, E Curnow, Kennedy and Cerra all have 25+ touches (more than any Cat); Carlton win the clearances and inside 50s. This was with two of their top three mods in Walsh and Hewett missing.
R3 - on the stat sheet this one wasn’t too bad, but three of our top four possession winners were non mids (Stewart, Smith, Tuohy) and the Suns smashed us in clearances, centre clearances and contested possessions.
12 months ago I thought our midfield was bottom 8 standard and I think a number of players elevated themselves to career best levels during our winning streak and flag.
Is our midfield current underperforming or is this just the level they are at? I genuinely don’t know the answer.
RD1 - J Daicos, Pendlebury and De Goey all have 25+ touches (more than any Cat); Collingwood win the clearances and inside 50s.
RD2 - Cripps, E Curnow, Kennedy and Cerra all have 25+ touches (more than any Cat); Carlton win the clearances and inside 50s. This was with two of their top three mods in Walsh and Hewett missing.
R3 - on the stat sheet this one wasn’t too bad, but three of our top four possession winners were non mids (Stewart, Smith, Tuohy) and the Suns smashed us in clearances, centre clearances and contested possessions.
12 months ago I thought our midfield was bottom 8 standard and I think a number of players elevated themselves to career best levels during our winning streak and flag.
Is our midfield current underperforming or is this just the level they are at? I genuinely don’t know the answer.
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I think there’s a key different ing in venting vs attacking
No doubt they are all professionals and give it 100%…but you can still question things when it goes wrong
Like some of the posters I too just hope it’s an extra training load affecting the players and making them look sluggish…doesn’t explain away the poor skills that has been on displayed today
Yep. Smashed in the midfield. Dangerfield and Guthrie have dropped down a level or two.
I would add that we don't look fit enough. Aging bodies don't recover from partying like the younger guys. Can take a lot longer to regain fitness as you age and our older players enjoyed the off season a little to much. Will take many weeks to regain fitness
Clark has no hope next week.
If anyone shuts you down for saying it they arent worth listening too. Our midfield is the reason we are what we are right now. We should be considering any and all options in there.
Im prepared to get shut down for saying that i think the problem is so bad at this stage that we should even consider structural change to get more contested ball players into the team. Hawkins obviously isnt right, but im not sure we need to bring in Neale if we drop Hawkins for a few weeks to get him right. I think we'd be better off with a resting ruck man down there + Cameron, Rohan, Henry and the small brigade. We can generate enough inside 50's and can stop the easy transition then we wont need the two tall forwards. It will also force us to think about our entries, rather than bombing it long to Hawkins or Cameron.
Id even say the same about MOC/Sav. Sav has to go and Kolo comes in but MOC should be dropped for another genuine midfielder at least.
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Agree.
But Guthrie hasn't been great.
Seemed to play a kick behind the play for a lot of the first half, and it didn't work too badly; played a latter-career Mitch Duncan type of role.
Then basically disappeared in the 2nd half.
Didn't mind Zuthrie's game today (was ok last week too).
Correct, if it's not already
It's a novel position to be in that's for sure
I can't recall when we started like this in my almost 50 year support of the club
The writing has been on the wall - people just refused to see it. I think it's time people got past the 'injury' excuse and just accepted we are playing like shit and the boys partied a bit too hard over the offseason. It's been a long time since I have seen this team so unfit and out of shape going into the start of a season - like I said last week whoever is in charge of conditioning needs to go. This team simply wasn't prepared and is still acting like they are in the pre-season. Also time for Scott to move on - a fresh voice is needed because it looks like motivation is also a factor. I could accept a close loss to Collingwood - but getting rolled by ****ing Carlton and Gold Coast and starting 0-3 after winning the premiership is unacceptable and embarrassing for the club and its supporters.
Unfurling the flag, after 0-3 this season, is about as exciting as going to a party, and dancing with your mother in law. !
Hear. Hear.
You know what is embarrassing, calling for a coach to be sacked, three games after winning a Premiership.
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2011 and 2022 still aren't going away.
Dangerfield.
fpm84
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No flag unfurling the last time Collingwood made the GF… just choking away a five goal lead.
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That’s nice campaigner why are you here?
Both.
It is a mediocre to good midfield (not even close to say Melbourne) that is underperforming.
Danger the only A grader but at his age output will be up and down.
Guthrie a solid B+er.
The rest are good honest battlers or promising but inexperienced kids.
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