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Vince, I've lost interest. I love him, but if he isn't willing to get dirty and play with intensity, I'm not sure he should be in the side.

He looks like he doesn't give a f*** to be honest. He gets by on skill, and you can tell when the game heats up like today in a final. No Goodwin there to motivate him, no Vince in there to motivate himself.
 
Really?

really punchy, you took that as being serious. 6 changes for a final? o_O

Also, the comments for the outs would have been a give away as well.

Sorry dude just re-read your post not in a good mood
 

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In: Knights, Symes, Jenkins, Thompson and Johnstone

Out: Talia (arm), Shaw (hammy), Callinan (heart), Pretenko (brain) and Tippett (hands as he must have broken every finger as he couldn't catch a thing)
Taking the pi$$ I hope!
 
Out: Talia, Riley, Douglas
In: Henderson, Jenkins, Martin
I tend to agree with this. Hendo to replace Talia's spot? Although, Hendo on Pavlich does sound like a horror movie. But you can't go past Jenkins after he booted 8.1 for the Double Blues. Martin, the super-sub?
 
I am staggered at the Vince hate when he got over 20 possessions and we had so many players who struggled to crack 10.

Anyway, we need to bring Martin in. He's kicked bags of goals two weeks in a row and notched up over 20 possessions. If we play Freo we are going to need his pace.
 
And whose fault is it he isn't doing that?

Talia will be out with a broken arm. Patty has been cleared so he probably only has a minor fracture in his jaw.:rolleyes:

Sam Shaw has played 10 games so no one should be surprised that he was a bit overawed. There is only one way for kids to get finals experience, play them in finals. It's a bit late to experiment with players who have not been playing as key defenders all year. I think I might have mentioned a few (dozen times) that it was dumb to play Rutten and Talia every game this season. The only player on our list who has been playing as a key defender in the SANFL is Luke Thompson.

Talk about throwing him to the wolves, Hi Luke I'd like to introduce you to Matthew Pavlich.
 
I am staggered at the Vince hate when he got over 20 possessions and we had so many players who struggled to crack 10.

Anyway, we need to bring Martin in. He's kicked bags of goals two weeks in a row and notched up over 20 possessions. If we play Freo we are going to need his pace.

No shit? I should check the stats before bagging him. It didn't look like he got much of the ball.
 
Yes I was, but no different to anyone else taking the piss when they suggest dropping Douglas, Vince or even Tippett.
Won't get any arguement from me.
 
Anyway, we need to bring Martin in. He's kicked bags of goals two weeks in a row and notched up over 20 possessions. If we play Freo we are going to need his pace.
3 solid games & with some underperforming forwards, would have to be a good chance!
 

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Who comes out for Martin?

If it's Tarlia or Shaw - it will be a major disappointment and will just end in tears as he is not a defender, back pocket or even half back flanker.

Because at the moment, we have 2 outs (if shaw's hamstring is an out) and no automatic omissions.
 
I am staggered at the Vince hate when he got over 20 possessions and we had so many players who struggled to crack 10.

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Because the guy is so ridiculously talented and plays like he just doesn't give F^&CK!!!
No intensity just floats around looking for easy possessions...ffs get his hands dirty and do HIS SHARE of the HARD STUFF and help out the guys like Thommo, Danger, Sloane etc who play like their life depends on it !!
 
We had many, many poorer users/players than Douglas today.

I agree that Vince doesn't do enough.

I'm sure we did, and I'm not questioning Dougie's application or effort; just the terrible decision making that seemed to be a regular feature.

We can't afford players who can handle finals pressure. Hopefully he can redeem himself next week.
 
Who comes out for Martin?

If it's Tarlia or Shaw - it will be a major disappointment and will just end in tears as he is not a defender, back pocket or even half back flanker.

Because at the moment, we have 2 outs (if shaw's hamstring is an out) and no automatic omissions.
I'm not suggesting Martin plays defence, as I highlighted how many goals he has kicked. My out would be Petrenko. You just can't accept a performance like that and hasn't done anything for awhile.
 
I'm sure we did, and I'm not questioning Dougie's application or effort; just the terrible decision making that seemed to be a regular feature.

We can't afford players who can handle finals pressure. Hopefully he can redeem himself next week.
Douglas' decsion making didn't stand out as poor - particularly compared to some of his team-mates today. Being at the game I can think of more than half of the side which didn't handle the pressure - certainly worse than Douglas.
 
Talia will be out with a broken arm. Patty has been cleared so he probably only has a minor fracture in his jaw.:rolleyes:

Sam Shaw has played 10 games so no one should be surprised that he was a bit overawed. There is only one way for kids to get finals experience, play them in finals. It's a bit late to experiment with players who have not been playing as key defenders all year. I think I might have mentioned a few (dozen times) that it was dumb to play Rutten and Talia every game this season. The only player on our list who has been playing as a key defender in the SANFL is Luke Thompson.

Talk about throwing him to the wolves, Hi Luke I'd like to introduce you to Matthew Pavlich.

That's nice so what does that have to do with Vince?
 
I'm not suggesting Martin plays defence, as I highlighted how many goals he has kicked. My out would be Petrenko. You just can't accept a performance like that and hasn't done anything for awhile.

Fair enough, good explanation and justification and would not disagree with it.

If we play Martin, I'd prefer to see him on a wing/on ball/midfield rotation and would like to see Vince moved to that half forward flank and play as a running high half forward but don't know who I would drop out of Stiffy, Callinan or Petrenko as none of them did anything today to justify selection.
 
I am staggered at the Vince hate when he got over 20 possessions and we had so many players who struggled to crack 10.

Anyway, we need to bring Martin in. He's kicked bags of goals two weeks in a row and notched up over 20 possessions. If we play Freo we are going to need his pace.

I'm pissed off at Vince because he repeatedly jogs past contests, and he hung Shaw (I think) out to dry when Vince could've cut off a lead and spoiled his player, but he wasn't willing to take the hit.


He's just so disappointing, he should be one of the best players in the League, not a mediocre player in our side.
 
My apologies Punchy, I thought the thread was "Changes for Week 2 of the Finals", is this the pour shit on Bernie Vince thread?

Bernie did play the second half in the backlines but I don't see him replacing Talia

Far from the only one calling him out. Sando said he wants a finals gameplan. After today he knows the players who can't handle a final and Vince as usual goes missing in a tough game. Deal with it.
 
I'm pissed off at Vince because he repeatedly jogs past contests, and he hung Shaw (I think) out to dry when Vince could've cut off a lead and spoiled his player, but he wasn't willing to take the hit.


He's just so disappointing, he should be one of the best players in the League, not a mediocre player in our side.

Dont waste your time Kingy the apologists are out already.
 
I'm pissed off at Vince because he repeatedly jogs past contests, and he hung Shaw (I think) out to dry when Vince could've cut off a lead and spoiled his player, but he wasn't willing to take the hit.


He's just so disappointing, he should be one of the best players in the League, not a mediocre player in our side.
The way we played today, I would take a mediocre player over about 6 shit ones. That's what I don't understand, we might want more from Vince but when there were several players clearly worse than Vince, and there are calls that Vince was worse on ground and should be dropped, I don't get it.
 

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