Preview Changes: R15 vs North Melbourne, Sunday June 26, 12.40pm ACST in Tasmania

[WaynesWorld19]

Surely we make Berg the Sub?

Clubs nearly always use a running player as sub .....choosing talls, restrict your options

Berg a late in, if Tex ruled out

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

surely we absolutely do not.

Going in with a shorter side, if one of the talls goes down with injury it would hurt structures. If a small gets injured then we would just return to the normal balance

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Clubs nearly always use a running player as sub .....choosing talls, restrict your options

Berg a late in, if Tex ruled out

See above, it restricts your options normally but the balance of the team is not the standard

 

[Cap]

Did anyone see Nick's Friday presser ? Not you tube.

Did any one talk to the radio shows?

 

[DJ75]

With Crouch being dropped, hopefully we see Hately back into the midfield, Dawson on the wing and probably Hinge to HBF

Just crazy enough it might work!

 

[1970crow]

Going in with a shorter side, if one of the talls goes down with injury it would hurt structures. If a small gets injured then we would just return to the normal balance

and yet of the 18 subs listed each week next to zero would be key talls.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

and yet of the 18 subs listed each week next to zero would be key talls.

I’ve already explained this, most of those teams went with a taller 22 than we are, so they can afford a small sub.

 

[jackster83]

and yet of the 18 subs listed each week next to zero would be key talls.

I remember one club having a ruckman as the sub. Can't remember who - might have been Hawthorn.

 

[Scorpus]

I remember one club having a ruckman as the sub. Can't remember who - might have been Hawthorn.

Richmond in this match right now had Soldo as the sub

 

[97-98]

I remember one club having a ruckman as the sub. Can't remember who - might have been Hawthorn.

Brisbane vs St.Kilda
Subs were Darcy Fort (204 cm) and Jarrod Lienert (195 cm).
Both utilised.
Probably the tallest pair of subs used in a game.

 

[1970crow]

I’ve already explained this, most of those teams went with a taller 22 than we are, so they can afford a small sub.

Statistically a team is most likely to lose a smaller player, so that is why subs are smaller players. We have 3 ruck/kpfs, the likelihood that one needs replacing is much lower than a smaller player. We have chosen our structure and a small sub provides the greatest protection to that structure in the event of 8njury. Just as it is with pretty much every sub for every team every week.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Statistically a team is most likely to lose a smaller player, so that is why subs are smaller players. We have 3 ruck/kpfs, the likelihood that one needs replacing is much lower than a smaller player. We have chosen our structure and a small sub provides the greatest protection to that structure in the event of 8njury. Just as it is with pretty much every sub for every team every week.

Jeez dude, we only have 2 kpf for this game. You obviously didn’t read it the first so I’ll just tag my first response again.

Going in with a shorter side, if one of the talls goes down with injury it would hurt structures. If a small gets injured then we would just return to the normal balance

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Jeez dude, we only have 2 kpf for this game. You obviously didn’t read it the first so I’ll just tag my first response again.

Don't worry - most people not under the influence get it.

If you go in small, you can have a tall as a sub (like we have this week... though I would still use Jones).

If you go in tall, it is very unlikely you would select a tall as a sub.

We have seen talls picked as a sub plenty of times, including Soldo today for Richmond.

 

[1970crow]

Jeez dude, we only have 2 kpf for this game. You obviously didn’t read it the first so I’ll just tag my first response again.

geez dude, obviously you can't work it out. We have fixed our structure in at selection. There are 5 talls in total and 17 smaller players. To protect our chosen structure we select a sub from the group that is statistically more likely to get injured. Which is very obviously from the 3+:1 shorter player group. It's so bleedingly obvious that I can't understand how you don't see it. What you're proposing puts our structure at greater risk because the ratio would change from 17:5 to 16:6, obviously that's why clubs select nearly always smaller players as sub. To protect their preferred structure.

 

[1970crow]

Don't worry - most people not under the influence get it.

If you go in small, you can have a tall as a sub (like we have this week... though I would still use Jones).

If you go in tall, it is very unlikely you would select a tall as a sub.

We have seen talls picked as a sub plenty of times, including Soldo today for Richmond.

i understand what he's saying, it's just that he's wrong. He's using an arbitrary number to determine that we're actually one tall short going in this week, so having Berg as sub would effectively right the wrong in the event that a short player goes down. The club has deliberately selected the structure for this particular match, the sub isn't selected to correct a selection structure 'error', it's to replace an injured player. And there are over 3 times the number of running players than talls, this is why clubs rarely select talls as subs. They use them to fit into existing structure/plans, not change it up just because a small has gone down.

If you weren't such a pathetic troll, you'd understand the very obvious point I'm making and why clubs almost always select running players as sub. But play on, I'm assuming you've had your fair share of reds again tonight. Missing points by wide margins as you often do in the evening.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ivan Soldo

13

Ivan Soldo

Age

28

Ht

204cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

24.2

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

3.1

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

23.0

5star

D

6.4

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

21.4

5star

...

 

[FR0GGY]

Crouch probably a late in after his game today.
The Facebook people can’t work out why he was dropped.

 

[1970crow]

Ivan Soldo...

you wanna list the rest for this round? Notice a trend? Talls as sub are the exception, not the rule, and it's not by accident. You really do lack any form of nuance, don't you?

jayden hunt
callum ahchee
Lachie mcneil
Josh morris
Alex witherden
brayden ham
Will setterfield
mitch crowden
Cooper stephens

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

geez dude, obviously you can't work it out. We have fixed our structure in at selection. There are 5 talls in total and 17 smaller players. To protect our chosen structure we select a sub from the group that is statistically more likely to get injured. Which is very obviously from the 3+:1 shorter player group. It's so bleedingly obvious that I can't understand how you don't see it. What you're proposing puts our structure at greater risk because the ratio would change from 17:5 to 16:6, obviously that's why clubs select nearly always smaller players as sub. To protect their preferred structure.

Lol are you deliberately ignoring the named 22? Context matters.

We play with a 16:6 structure more often than we play 17:5 and we almost never play with 18:4.

Given the starting 22 will be 17:5, having a tall sub will give the best protection to maintain our preferred structures.

If a tall goes down, we keep the same structure. If a small goes down, we go back to our main 16:6 structure.

 

[Redleg Crow]

I'll be travelling while the game is on so won't be able to comment in the GameDay thread. So I'll just put my comment here:

"Surely we can't lose this. I mean that cannot happen, right?? Right???"

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'll be travelling while the game is on so won't be able to comment in the GameDay thread. So I'll just put my comment here:

"Surely we can't lose this. I mean that cannot happen, right?? Right???"

We haven't beaten the Roos ever in Tasmania so I wouldn't be getting too confident.

Hopefully you bring us some luck.

 

[Sanders]

If you weren't such a pathetic troll, you'd understand the very obvious point I'm making and why clubs almost always select running players as sub. But play on, I'm assuming you've had your fair share of reds again tonight. Missing points by wide margins as you often do in the evening.

Nailed it

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nailed it

Bless you CroMo...

 

[cm_perfect]

If Berg comes in, there'll still be no second ruck...

Where is Trent Ormand Allen when you need him !!

 

[GROTTO]

Where is Trent Ormand Allen when you need him !!

Much shorter than Jack Silvagni and could at least compete in ruck.

Piiiful Pitman......