Preview Changes: R2 vs Collingwood - Saturday March 26, 1.15pm ACDT

[Scorpus]

Official changes for this week's match, beginning Saturday March 26, 1.45pm (1.15pm Adelaide time) at the MCG

IN: Gollant, Pedlar, Cook, Sholl

OUT: Thilthorpe, McPherson, Milera, Soligo

 

[kick it to me_]

Brayden Cook needs to be playing as many games as possible this year.

So I got to speak to Brayden after the game, ask how far of he was and he said in a few more weeks once his fitness is back up. Wonder if he got knocked around by covid.

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[Bearded Clam]

Lose the appeal on what grounds?

the “he’s a crows player” grounds?…

 

[BucketsNj]

The crows never do that.
Looking back now, even at the time, the contract extension seemed excessive.

It came at a very low point. Dangerfield had gone and everyone was saying Sloane would go. I think it was very important morale wise that we kept him. And I think thats why the club gave him such a good deal. It was crucial we should be seen retaining a good player.

 

[BACCS]

the “he’s a crows player” grounds?…

Haha fair call!

 

[BACCS]

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So I got to speak to Brayden after the game, ask how far of he was and he said in a few more weeks once his fitness is back up. Wonder if he got knocked around by covid.

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With half our team catching covid only a month ago, it's likely many are still a little lethargic.

Was Sloane one of these, given he had to isolate at home for 2 weeks... or is he past it? Will be interesting to see if they appeal his suspension as didn't look to be much in it.

If they don't...

B: Brown, Butts, Doedee
HB: Smith, Murray, Dawson
C: Sholl, Crouch, Hinge
HF: McHenry, Fogarty, Rowe
F: Gollant, Thilthorpe, Rachele
R: O'Brien, Keays, Schoenberg
I: Jones, Pedlar, Milera, Cook
Sub: Soligo

Ins - Outs
Sholl - McPherson (inj)
Gollant - Himmelberg
Pedlar - Sloane (susp)
Soligo - Cook

 

[Mr_Moogle]

It came at a very low point. Dangerfield had gone and everyone was saying Sloane would go. I think it was very important morale wise that we kept him. And I think thats why the club gave him such a good deal. It was crucial we should be seen retaining a good player.

We gave him 2 years too many but maybe somebody else offered him 4 years so the Crows gave him 5 to get a deal done.

 

[Sanders]

It came at a very low point. Dangerfield had gone and everyone was saying Sloane would go. I think it was very important morale wise that we kept him. And I think thats why the club gave him such a good deal. It was crucial we should be seen retaining a good player.

That was the theory at the time, but making decisions for PR is never how a good organisation works.

Not to mention that his performances were already in serious decline, and the feeling was that interstate offers - particularly from STK - dried up seeing him struggle so mightily against the tag in 2017

That contract was a huge mistake, and not everyone loved it at the time

 

[Burtonsgottago]

Yeah Jones isn't coming out, especially with Moose out.

Yeah, we need him for….. what does he do?

 

[FAITH]

It came at a very low point. Dangerfield had gone and everyone was saying Sloane would go. I think it was very important morale wise that we kept him. And I think thats why the club gave him such a good deal. It was crucial we should be seen retaining a good player.

You make a good point, it didn't really make financial sense, but losing him probably would've killed the morale of the entire club.

 

[Bearded Clam]

looking back on it now.. shit.. what a garbage result. but thats easy to do in hindsight isnt it..

we locked Sloaney in for 5 years.. he’s been in and out of the side with all manner of different injuries and weird ailments ever since.

his form has yo-yo’d but has mostly been poor apart from a good few weeks at the start of last season when he was in ripping form only to end up on the injury list due to an issue with an eye if I remember rightly.

massive outlay.. for not much in return if all you look at is the time spent injured and that, in the times that he hasnt been injured, he hasnt been in great form..

now if you take into account what he means to the club, the players and the supporters.. thats a different kettle of fish as a lot of people would say that its still been money well spent…

 

[Burtonsgottago]

Would we be worse off if we had delisted Himmelberg and picked up Jack Hayes instead??

I don’t want to talk about it

 

[Burtonsgottago]

We lack someone that can play the Lynch role, so I'd love to have Cook back in

I disagree. We had plenty that had their kicks smothered.

 

[Burtonsgottago]

when do we pull the trigger on Jones? he is fast becoming a liability and i'd rather see worrell or parnell

Didn’t you see his searing pace and accurate disposal?

 

[DJ75]

It came at a very low point. Dangerfield had gone and everyone was saying Sloane would go. I think it was very important morale wise that we kept him. And I think thats why the club gave him such a good deal. It was crucial we should be seen retaining a good player.

All that makes sense and is essentially understandable.

What isn't is that he is still Captain and as such pretty much guaranteed to get picked and play midfield each week. We should have been smart enough to have seen what was happening and to have been ready to move him along. Our coaches are the only people in Australia who still think he is an elite mid.

 

[Crow till I die]

So I got to speak to Brayden after the game, ask how far of he was and he said in a few more weeks once his fitness is back up. Wonder if he got knocked around by covid.

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Cheers for that info..it gives perspective and we can understand his position in terms of readiness to play better

 

[kick it to me_]

With half our team catching covid only a month ago, it's likely many are still a little lethargic.

Was Sloane one of these, given he had to isolate at home for 2 weeks... or is he past it? Will be interesting to see if they appeal his suspension as didn't look to be much in it.

If they don't...

B: Brown, Butts, Doedee
HB: Smith, Murray, Dawson
C: Sholl, Crouch, Hinge
HF: McHenry, Fogarty, Rowe
F: Gollant, Thilthorpe, Rachele
R: O'Brien, Keays, Schoenberg
I: Jones, Pedlar, Milera, Cook
Sub: Soligo

Ins - Outs
Sholl - McPherson (inj)
Gollant - Himmelberg
Pedlar - Sloane (susp)
Soligo - Cook

That's almost exactly the line up and changes I'd pick. I was on the delist Davis band wagon, been really impressed with his preseason games and sanfl trials, I reckon he's not far off our 22 now. Jones and Milera both had better second half but you can clearly tell Milera is still lacking match fitness.

Change I can see in the next few weeks.

Ins - Outs
ROB - Strachan

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[1970crow]

Looks a week to me, not a single valid reason to have his hand around opponent's head in that situation. Old mate added some Mayo to extract a free, but it wasn't far off gouging. Stamp it out, it's uneccessary..

 

[Houston]

I would hope so, based on that vision it's clearly not intentional and I doubt Acres even remembered the incident before today it was that minor. MRO lottery at it again, surely gets thrown out in 2 seconds on appeal. Could send a 1st year law student to argue this and still win comfortably.

What a thug, I say ban him indefinitely.

 

[1970crow]

looking back on it now.. sh*t.. what a garbage result. but thats easy to do in hindsight isnt it..

we locked Sloaney in for 5 years.. he’s been in and out of the side with all manner of different injuries and weird ailments ever since.

his form has yo-yo’d but has mostly been poor apart from a good few weeks at the start of last season when he was in ripping form only to end up on the injury list due to an issue with an eye if I remember rightly.

massive outlay.. for not much in return if all you look at is the time spent injured and that, in the times that he hasnt been injured, he hasnt been in great form..

now if you take into account what he means to the club, the players and the supporters.. thats a different kettle of fish as a lot of people would say that its still been money well spent…

Started last year as he did yesterday, back to back sub 20 games, was seriously poor. But the had a belter against the Suns and all of a sudden his first 2 games were just as good.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

We got a little lucky with timing of Sloane’s contract, we probably had to give some of the senior players bug money just meet the minimum cap spend, so the money aspect probably hasn’t burnt to too badly.

Problem is we will fell compelled to play, but although being plays a big role there too. He’s at risk of having his last season end up like Thommo in 2017.

 

[Scorpus]

The big issue is Sloane is captain. He's not playing SANFL when he's captain

 

[FR0GGY]

The big issue is Sloane is captain. He's not playing SANFL when he's captain

Was the perfect year to hand over to Doedee

 

[jackster83]

looking back on it now.. sh*t.. what a garbage result. but thats easy to do in hindsight isnt it..

we locked Sloaney in for 5 years.. he’s been in and out of the side with all manner of different injuries and weird ailments ever since.

his form has yo-yo’d but has mostly been poor apart from a good few weeks at the start of last season when he was in ripping form only to end up on the injury list due to an issue with an eye if I remember rightly.

massive outlay.. for not much in return if all you look at is the time spent injured and that, in the times that he hasnt been injured, he hasnt been in great form..

now if you take into account what he means to the club, the players and the supporters.. thats a different kettle of fish as a lot of people would say that its still been money well spent…

After polling 24 Brownlow votes in 2016, and 20 in 2017, he has only polled 16 Brownlow votes in the 62 games since that foot injury in 2018 (he also scored two votes in that game off one leg).

Bear in mind he was only 28 when he copped that injury, it's been a rapid decline.

 

[MRB37]

That was the theory at the time, but making decisions for PR is never how a good organisation works.

Not to mention that his performances were already in serious decline, and the feeling was that interstate offers - particularly from STK - dried up seeing him struggle so mightily against the tag in 2017

That contract was a huge mistake, and not everyone loved it at the time

I can't say we were a good organisation under Trigg or Fagan.

Both made desperate, short sighted moves to take heat off themselves.