Preview Changes v Dees R10 - Wed @7:40

[spexau]

Someone FINALLY asked Nicks about the senior players.

Disappointingly, he brushed it off individuals and put it on the team as a whole

Actions speak louder than words. Don't care if he doesn't single out individuals so long as the correct actions are taken.

 

[arsene wenger1]

There is no way would I defer to our current crop of coaches for talent identification. The club isn't even AFL standard right now and I'm supposed to trust these assholes with our future?

You pulled this same deference bullshit with Jarryd Lyons. You said he was substitute because the coaches didn't rate him and they would know better than us. Now you're here making the same kind of bullshit argument all over again.

The coaches are too busy looking at their computer screens

 

[Scorpus]

Nicks said "we rested Mackay, we rested McAsey... so there's guys that we want to bring back in that we feel are very much part of our future"

 

[Scorpus]

He actually said that. You can hear it for yourself about 8:30 into his presser.

 

[jackster83]

Nicks said "we rested Mackay, we rested McAsey... so there's guys that we want to bring back in that we feel are very much part of our future"

I think I'm done.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Nicks said "we rested Mackay, we rested McAsey... so there's guys that we want to bring back in that we feel are very much part of our future"

DMAC locked in till 250 games.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

The coaches are too busy looking at their computer screens

They're blinded by the shine coming off Nick's scalp.

 

[HarryCrow]

it's confusing how Knight, who has played most of his career in graveyard role that so many posters whine 'ruins' our supposedly talented kids, was a mid-late pick, local, probably not on huge money, playing his first game back from injury and it's his selection or not that will change our team's fortunes?

Not the form or attitudes of our higher draft pick kids, or highly paid 'stars' (and i use this term loosely at present) being played in the guts doing nothing.

It's almost like the whole system, coaching and fitness are stuffed.

No, couldn't be. Must be Knight.

 

[Scorpus]

it's confusing how Knight, who has played most of his career in graveyard role that so many posters whine 'ruins' our supposedly talented kids, was a mid-late pick, local, probably not on huge money, playing his first game back from injury and it's his selection or not that will change our team's fortunes?

Not the form or attitudes of our higher draft pick kids, or highly paid 'stars' (and i use this term loosely at present) being played in the guts doing nothing.

It's almost like the whole system, coaching and fitness are stuffed.

No, couldn't be. Must be Knight.

Knight's selection is a representation of our issues.

He's a 50 game player that's never shown anything at AFL level and he gets selected ahead of young players with potential for what reason exactly?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

He actually said that. You can hear it for yourself about 8:30 into his presser.

Somebody should tell Nicks that if he keeps going this way, paying members are not part of our club's future.

 

[GROTTO]

Gawn in doubt for Wednesday's game.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Gawn in doubt for Wednesday's game.

Don't worry. They will smash us regardless.

 

[footy4ever]

Changes


Let me think....

Yeah nah. My giveaf**kometer is reading below zero.

 

[Anzacpaul]

it's confusing how Knight, who has played most of his career in graveyard role that so many posters whine 'ruins' our supposedly talented kids, was a mid-late pick, local, probably not on huge money, playing his first game back from injury and it's his selection or not that will change our team's fortunes?

Not the form or attitudes of our higher draft pick kids, or highly paid 'stars' (and i use this term loosely at present) being played in the guts doing nothing.

It's almost like the whole system, coaching and fitness are stuffed.

No, couldn't be. Must be Knight.

Knights played 55 games now. Reckon he could get a go at another club, but he won't develop any further in our structure.

 

[HarryCrow]

Knight's selection is a representation of our issues.

He's a 50 game player that's never shown anything at AFL level and he gets selected ahead of young players with potential for what reason exactly?

Ahead of who? Poholke who's shown less?
He's been selected behind Murphy who's shown less.

And posters don't want players like Ned and Schoenberg played in the graveyard role.

 

[MRB37]

Knights played 55 games now. Reckon he could get a go at another club, but he won't develop any further in our structure.

Reckon 2-3 years of injuries has caught up with him to be honest.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Reckon 2-3 years of injuries has caught up with him to be honest.

Yeah. He looks like he's lost a yard of pace and he wasn't that quick to begin with.

 

[HarryCrow]

Yeah. He looks like he's lost a yard of pace and he wasn't that quick to begin with.

I feel like with our middle boring draft hands we've mostly had, so many of our players have been defined by effort rather than skill/talent and either the car crash of an admin situation/camp or the fitness staff or all of it has sapped that from them leaving them with not much.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Nicks has flagged we'll be younger this week. Lets see if selection backs him up.

I'm tipping we'll be four days older, more if Tex plays

 

[Vader]

I don't rate Poholke either but our coaching group hasn't earned the kind of trust/faith Vader seems to put in them.

I don't trust them not to hang onto senior players long after they've passed their "use by date". I do trust them when they decide that a player just doesn't have what it takes - especially when we're talking about a player like Poholke, who has had plenty of opportunities and continually failed to show anything beyond an ability to get caught HTB.

 

[xazos79]

Agree or disagree with selection, which is inevitable regardless of the coach, Nicks has been dealt an extremely tough hand, in an extremely tough season. The bloke needs time. Unless he's being batsh!t crazy with selection, which he's not, i'm prepared to give him all the time he needs to get the playing group back where it needs to be. This isn't a matter of weeks. It's years. We won't see much improvement from a team of underdeveloped young players until next season or the one after next.

From what i can see and have heard, Nicks is a quality person. Is his football nous up to scratch? We won't know for a little while. Not until he's given 2-3 years to start making something of this team and the future selections we have.

There's 1 thing i can confidently guarantee, not even Clarko would get a win out of our current playing list in its current state......

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

The coaches are too busy looking at their computer screens

I'd love to see another angle of our coaching box. I'm guessing

 

[Vader]

And yet he was given a 3 year extension only last year. Played 2 games since.

Blame Reid for that **** up... one in a conga line of contracts which were 1-2 years too long.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Davis has some real x-factor and ability. Whether he can harness that often enough is his big issue. It looks unlikely at this stage, but he has had two opportunities only to see if his game translates to the AFL arena - and one of them was a thrashing against Geelong at Geelong. He needs to be given a chance.

Imagine having McAdam, Stengle & Davis in the forward line... we would actually have some excitement & also pressure.

 

[Golumless]

Agree or disagree with selection, which is inevitable regardless of the coach, Nicks has been dealt an extremely tough hand, in an extremely tough season. The bloke needs time. Unless he's being batsh!t crazy with selection, which he's not, i'm prepared to give him all the time he needs to get the playing group back where it needs to be. This isn't a matter of weeks. It's years. We won't see much improvement from a team of underdeveloped young players until next season or the one after next.

From what i can see and have heard, Nicks is a quality person. Is his football nous up to scratch? We won't know for a little while. Not until he's given 2-3 years to start making something of this team and the future selections we have.

There's 1 thing i can confidently guarantee, not even Clarko would get a win out of our current playing list in its current state......

I disagree. Footy nous shows from day one, even in a shitty side.

Whilst we had a rough return, the first few weeks showed that at least we had some idea of what was required. Not so much in structure, but with the forward planning. As the season has continued, that focus has diminished. To the point that I think last week says it all with Nicks. He selected the oldest side and with players who should have had their card stamped 3-5 times over in a must-win game (Gibbs, Knight, Hartigan, Himmelberg as well as probably Kelly, Atkins and even Matt Crouch who has been beyond terrible this year). He simply doesn't have the focus and long term planning side in him to ride out bad periods that you need to have in a good head coach. Instead, he threw the baby out with the bathwater and in what is one of our most winnable games, we got done by 10 goals.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree Clarko would be struggling with us. He's struggling with the Hawks now, and we're a step below them. However, I do not doubt that Clarko would understand that you do not even consider a large portion of our senior players for selection, let alone trust them, if you have any desire of having a job in 2-3 years. After all, this is the group that mutinied to get rid of the last coach, and whilst I agree that was necessary, to get to that point indicates there is some irreparable damage on the senior group. Some are capable of putting that aside, others are not.