Game Day Collingwood v Brisbane, Gabba, 6 April, 7.45pm

[The Royal Sampler]

Steene looks to be a chance for greatness.

In that he is an untried AFL player?

 

[Big Bryza]

Yep this is the issue.

I suspect we set up to lose the tap/punch, with an extra positioned behind the contest to stop Brisbane exploding out the front and putting unbearable pressure on our defenders.

Of course we'll set up to lose 90% of the HO's. It's not as if we're just going to be witches hats out there. We have a very strong midfield that will hold it's own.

If O Mac wants to just belt it forward then Nick Daicos will have a field day picking it off from the back of the contest.

 

[Big Bryza]

Daniher and Hipwood are streak players, they can catch fire early and if they do can kick a bag each.

We can't give those two guys early goals and give them some confidence.

As a side note is there anything more nauseating than that stupid grin on Daniher? possibly Jack Riewoldt celebrating or James Sicily acting like a tough guy, but they are all line ball.

Daniher's hair gives me the creeps, greasy as ****. Has the campaigner ever washed it?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Daniher and Hipwood are streak players, they can catch fire early and if they do can kick a bag each.

We can't give those two guys early goals and give them some confidence.

As a side note is there anything more nauseating than that stupid grin on Daniher? possibly Jack Riewoldt celebrating or James Sicily acting like a tough guy, but they are all line ball.

Yes, that's why I don't want to mess with our defence, we can't give them any easy ones early. Most of Daniher & Hipwood's issues must be confidence & motivation, they couldn't possibly be that poorly skilled...(?)

And agree about the grin. It's such a dopey look.

 

[Axl the great]

Daniher's hair gives me the creeps, greasy as *. Has the campaigner ever washed it?

Yeah, he just looks dirty and that mustache! looks like a rat peeping over a broomstick.

 

[Football God]

Interesting to see in their Vfl team on the weekend Mathieson and Lyons had massive games in the middle.

Surely Lyons played in the Vfl because of his surgery in the offseason and not because he couldn't get a game in the seniors? Couldn't find much info on this but of course looking like he will slot right back in time to play against us.

VFL Report: Lions Claw Back To Dash Past Dogs

The Brisbane Lions produced another stirring comeback to down the Footscray Bulldogs in Round 2 of the VFL at Marvel Stadium on Thursday afternoon.

www.lions.com.au

 

[Scodog10]

That's what Bucks said on "On the Couch" last night. Said it is as easy setting up to lose the tap as it is to win the tap. Think we may well see how beneficial Mitchell really is, in those circumstances.

I think it’s more likely to be Pendles or Crisp that has the bigger influence in terms of negating their stoppage work. My guess is one of those two is the sweeper and Mitchell goes head to head with Neale at stoppage.

Preparing to lose the hitout makes the sweeper super important and whilst I haven’t looked into it deeply instinct tells me they play that role more than Mitchell. In terms of setup* I think we’ll pull the sweepers starting point back a little and play the right side wingman when we’re attacking (the wingman on the big O’s left side) more toward the HBF. In theory between that wingman and the sweeper we should get more protection from 9 to 3 (clockface) of his hit zones. The others should setup neutrally as they normally do.

*this is purely how I would set us up. I’ll let them have the exit out the back of stoppage all night because it doesn’t bother me anywhere near as much as them exiting the front of stoppage.

 

[Fat Jesus]

In that he is an untried AFL player?

He has shown a lot in just a couple of games as a youngster. Takes marks, kicks goals.
Two more pre seasons he will be a very big boy.

Draft news.

Unsurprisingly, the 19-year-old's strengths are mostly to do with the aerial game. He has a decent leap and competes hard in the ruck all day, but is a relatively raw tall prospect in the way of production. Some of his best moments come in the way of eye-catching clunks at the highest point, where Steene's pure range and reach are simply superior to most at state league level.

Steene's 13 disposals, seven marks and 20 hitouts against North Adelaide in the League grade were among his best contributions for the year.

 

[sr36]

My concern is far less about the Ruck, and more with how BNE will exploit our lack of height, with creative use of Big O, Daniher and Hipwood.

With both Cox and Cameron out, BNE don't need to be concerned with Coll deploying them in Fwd, Back or as kick out targets on the wing.
Therefore BNE has no need to prepare for defensive strategy countering talls, and can focus purely on offensive strategies with their tall brigade, knowing we will struggle to find answers.

That doesn't worry me - I'd expect Johnson and McStay to out perform their talls around the ground.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

He has shown a lot in just a couple of games as a youngster. Takes marks, kicks goals.
Two more pre seasons he will be a very big boy.

Draft news.

Unsurprisingly, the 19-year-old's strengths are mostly to do with the aerial game. He has a decent leap and competes hard in the ruck all day, but is a relatively raw tall prospect in the way of production. Some of his best moments come in the way of eye-catching clunks at the highest point, where Steene's pure range and reach are simply superior to most at state league level.

Steene's 13 disposals, seven marks and 20 hitouts against North Adelaide in the League grade were among his best contributions for the year.

Incredible that we were able to hide this draft profile from the other 17 clubs, allowing us to pick him up as a SSP pick when he is destined for greatness.

 

[sr36]

I think it’s more likely to be Pendles or Crisp that has the bigger influence in terms of negating their stoppage work. My guess is one of those two is the sweeper and Mitchell goes head to head with Neale at stoppage.

Preparing to lose the hitout makes the sweeper super important and whilst I haven’t looked into it deeply instinct tells me they play that role more than Mitchell. In terms of setup* I think we’ll pull the sweepers starting point back a little and play the right side wingman when we’re attacking (the wingman on the big O’s left side) more toward the HBF. In theory between that wingman and the sweeper we should get more protection from 9 to 3 (clockface) of his hit zones. The others should setup neutrally as they normally do.

*this is purely how I would set us up. I’ll let them have the exit out the back of stoppage all night because it doesn’t bother me anywhere near as much as them exiting the front of stoppage.

Josh Daicos is the other one they've been positioning at the back of the pack in that role.

 

[sideswipe]

Incredible that we were able to hide this draft profile from the other 17 clubs, allowing us to pick him up as a SSP pick when he is destined for greatness.

Wasn't just us. Oscar did his own work on hiding by spending most of last year playing in the SANFL reserves.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

As a side note is there anything more nauseating than that stupid grin on Daniher? possibly Jack Riewoldt celebrating or James Sicily acting like a tough guy, but they are all line ball.

Chris Scott watching a game from the coach's box

 

[unplugged]

I think it’s more likely to be Pendles or Crisp that has the bigger influence in terms of negating their stoppage work. My guess is one of those two is the sweeper and Mitchell goes head to head with Neale at stoppage.

Preparing to lose the hitout makes the sweeper super important and whilst I haven’t looked into it deeply instinct tells me they play that role more than Mitchell. In terms of setup* I think we’ll pull the sweepers starting point back a little and play the right side wingman when we’re attacking (the wingman on the big O’s left side) more toward the HBF. In theory between that wingman and the sweeper we should get more protection from 9 to 3 (clockface) of his hit zones. The others should setup neutrally as they normally do.

*this is purely how I would set us up. I’ll let them have the exit out the back of stoppage all night because it doesn’t bother me anywhere near as much as them exiting the front of stoppage.

Sweeper doesn't necessarily need to be quick, but needs to be a good kick. Not Mitchell and not Crisp. Of the three you mentioned it had to be Pendlebury.

But if it's me I'm putting Pendlebury to do his old 1v1 at the stoppage vs Neale and bring Nick Daicos into the stoppages to be the sweeper. I don't care if that means pushing Crisp back to a more traditional HBF and swapping back in general play, so to speak.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Funnily enough last years' Round 5 match vs Lions had us with Jack Madgen

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Jack Madgen

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.5

3star

MG

154.4

2star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.5

3star

T

1.0

2star

MG

79.0

1star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

MG

172.8

3star

, Freddie Krueger, Tom Wilson and Reef McInnes. Cameron was subbed out with a leg injury in Q3 (!).

With a very similar list to their current lineup (sans Mitch Robinson

5

Mitch Robinson

Age

35

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

15.8

4star

K

11.3

4star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.6

5star

) they really only held us off by 7 points and we were off to a shaky start in 2022 missing both Checkers, Jamie, Ginnivan and Henry.

As much as our ruck situation is a conundrum, we do match up well with them. And they have not yet found their stride. Hopefully the Melbourne match gives them some false confidence.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

His left foot usually dampens his influence

Have you never watched Daniher play against Collingwood?

We’re pretty much the only side he’s guaranteed to have a big game against.

He’s basically a lock to kick at least 4 this Thursday, particularly given how the media have gotten stuck into him.

 

[Bianconeri]

That's what Bucks said on "On the Couch" last night. Said it is as easy setting up to lose the tap as it is to win the tap. Think we may well see how beneficial Mitchell really is, in those circumstances.

Well Bucks’ midfield never really took advantage of a dominant ruckman so I can see why he’d hold that view.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Have you never watched Daniher play against Collingwood?

We’re pretty much the only side he’s guaranteed to have a big game against.

He’s basically a lock to kick at least 4 this Thursday, particularly given how the media have gotten stuck into him.

Yeah I was being glib. He usually pulls it out after getting a whack.

But let's be like Fly and look forward rather than in the rear-view mirror. He might just have a shocker too!

 

[iGNITER]

Reckon McInnes comes in for Cameron, that's it.

McStay starts in the ruck but Frampton can provide a chop out.

Moore and Frampton take Daniher and Hipwood. Maynard gets the job on Gunston. Murphy a bit more of an intercept role.
If Frampton goes into the ruck to assist then Murphy takes Hipwood/Daniher in his absence.

Johnson can also assist where required. Can throw Adams into the middle and park DeGoey at FF.




B - Quaynor Frampton Murphy
HB - Maynard Moore Crisp
C - J.Daicos DeGoey N.Daicos
HF - McCreery Mihochek Sidebottom
F - Elliott Johnson Hill
R - McStay Mitchell Pendlebury
INT - Adams Noble McInnes WHE

Would like to see Ginnivan come in as the sub.

 

[Bianconeri]

Josh Daicos is the other one they've been positioning at the back of the pack in that role.

Bianco plays that role in the twos, perhaps he’ll be brought in and Sidebottom starts from the half forwardline and pushes up

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Reckon McInnes comes in for Cameron, that's it.

McStay starts in the ruck but Frampton can provide a chop out.

Moore and Frampton take Daniher and Hipwood. Maynard gets the job on Gunston. Murphy a bit more of an intercept role.
If Frampton goes into the ruck to assist then Murphy takes Hipwood/Daniher in his absence.

Johnson can also assist where required. Can throw Adams into the middle and park DeGoey at FF.




B - Quaynor Frampton Murphy
HB - Maynard Moore Crisp
C - J.Daicos DeGoey N.Daicos
HF - McCreery Mihochek Sidebottom
F - Elliott Johnson Hill
R - McStay Mitchell Pendlebury
INT - Adams Noble McInnes WHE

Would like to see Ginnivan come in as the sub.

That's exactly what I'm expecting. Really don't want to mess with our defence at all. Adding Reef & Ginni as super sub more than makes up for McStay & AJ taking ruck duties.

 

[sr36]

Bianco plays that role in the twos, perhaps he’ll be brought in and Sidebottom starts from the half forwardline and pushes up

I doubt it, we've got Pendles, Crisp and Josh - why would we want a fourth to use in that way?

 

[anshell]

Funnily enough last years' Round 5 match vs Lions had us with Jack Madgen, Freddie Krueger, Tom Wilson and Reef McInnes. Cameron was subbed out with a leg injury in Q3 (!).

With a very similar list to their current lineup (sans Mitch Robinson) they really only held us off by 7 points and we were off to a shaky start in 2022 missing both Checkers, Jamie, Ginnivan and Henry.

As much as our ruck situation is a conundrum, we do match up well with them. And they have not yet found their stride. Hopefully the Melbourne match gives them some false confidence.

That’s a very good point about the team we had the last time we played them.People forget what a weak team we had that night.We virtually had no forward line that night,no Elliott,no Mihocek,no Mcreery,no Ginnivan,no Johnson.That’s 5/6ths of the forward line that we took into the finals.Add Mcstay,Mitchell,Hill and Frampton the the list and we have a considerably stronger team this time,even if we don’t have any rucks this time around.

 

[The Ghost of the KPF]

Call me crazy but would Bianco for WHE be a possibility?

 

[sr36]

Call me crazy but would Bianco for WHE be a possibility?

Yeah it would. I don't think Trent would be far away from the team.